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Iran’s Ahmadinejad accuses neighbors of serving Zionism

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has accused the country’s neighbors of adopting policies that serve the interests of the “Zionist regime,” semi-official Fars news agency reported.

“We are sorry for those countries around us and those neighbors that are at the service of the Zionists in the name of Islam and are providing the means to their hegemony over the world,” he said late on Sunday.

The hard-line Iranian president did not make a direct reference to any of its neighbors, but his remarks came as Turkey, Israel and the United States started joint military exercises in the Mediterranean Sea. The drill is expected to end Friday.

“They [neighbors] don't understand so they provide the Zionists with their possibilities. We hope that they wake up,” Ahmadinejad was quoted by the news agency as saying during a ceremony to commemorate World Mosques Day in Tehran.

Last week, it was announced that the United States, Israel and Turkey were set to launch joint military exercises in the Mediterranean Sea. Hosted by Turkey in the eastern Mediterranean, it was the 10th such exercise in as many years between the allies.
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Turkey is Israel's principal ally in the region and both countries have close economic ties following a military cooperation agreement in 1996. Ankara hosted four rounds of peace negotiations between Israel and Syria until the talks were suspended when Israel launched a deadly offensive in the Gaza Strip.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said in July that his country was ready to resume its role as mediator in the suspended talks. A senior Israeli government official, however, said last week that there would be no new recourse to Turkish mediation, insisting that any new negotiations be direct.

Iran’s Ahmadinejad accuses neighbors of serving Zionism - Hürriyet Daily News and Economic Review

This man said "Zionism" out right! He is an absolute frigging Islamist loon and needs to be toppled.
 
No one should be toppled.

Who the bloody hell do we all think we are thinking we can topple and overthrow nations just because we do not like what they say.

Hell, someone should have overthrown US Govt. when that fool Bush was in power :doh
 
kaya'08 said:
Turkey is Israel's principal ally in the region and both countries have close economic ties following a military cooperation agreement in 1996. Ankara hosted four rounds of peace negotiations between Israel and Syria until the talks were suspended when Israel launched a deadly offensive in the Gaza Strip.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said in July that his country was ready to resume its role as mediator in the suspended talks. A senior Israeli government official, however, said last week that there would be no new recourse to Turkish mediation, insisting that any new negotiations be direct.

Iran’s Ahmadinejad accuses neighbors of serving Zionism - Hürriyet Daily News and Economic Review

This man said "Zionism" out right! He is an absolute frigging Islamist loon and needs to be toppled.
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Iran is all talk. They don't have the balls to do anything more than whine about Turkey....
 
kaya'08 said:
Turkey is Israel's principal ally in the region and both countries have close economic ties following a military cooperation agreement in 1996. Ankara hosted four rounds of peace negotiations between Israel and Syria until the talks were suspended when Israel launched a deadly offensive in the Gaza Strip.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said in July that his country was ready to resume its role as mediator in the suspended talks. A senior Israeli government official, however, said last week that there would be no new recourse to Turkish mediation, insisting that any new negotiations be direct.

Iran’s Ahmadinejad accuses neighbors of serving Zionism - Hürriyet Daily News and Economic Review

This man said "Zionism" out right! He is an absolute frigging Islamist loon and needs to be toppled.
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So what if he said Zionism out right?
 
Laila said:
No one should be toppled.
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I beg to differ.
A lot of nutjobs in this world should be toppled.
Who the bloody hell do we all think we are thinking we can topple and overthrow nations just because we do not like what they say.
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And what they do... and what they stand for... and what their aims are.
Hell, someone should have overthrown US Govt. when that fool Bush was in power
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I don't understand.
You disagree with the overthrow of the Iranian government, and yet you say that someone should have overthrown Bush's government.

Please explain.
 
I'm making a point.
Where would we have stopped?

I dislike Mugabe. Lets overthrow.
I didn't lke US ex President. Overthrow.
I'm not a great fan of Israel's leader, does that mean we can overthrow them too?
Oh and lets not forget China, Russia, N Korea and ofc UK.
 
Laila said:
I'm making a point.
Where would we have stopped?

I dislike Mugabe. Lets overthrow.
I didn't lke US ex President. Overthrow.
I'm not a great fan of Israel's leader, does that mean we can overthrow them too?
Oh and lets not forget China, Russia, N Korea and ofc UK.
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No, because you is not 'we'.
 
By topping the Iranian government we are potentially saving the lives of many millions of people in Europe, and Israel in the future. So really i ask you Laila, "who are we NOT to topple such people"? Just because we are a Democratic nation, doesn't mean that invalidates our ability to use armed force.

Had more people had my attitude, we could have diffused the threat of the Nazi empire at its roots in the 1930's. But we didn't, because "who are we". And now there's 50 million less people on this planet then there could have been.
 
kaya'08 said:
Just because we are a Democratic nation, doesn't mean that invalidates our ability to use armed force.
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I really love it how some people think that being a Democracy means embracing pacifism.
 
Toppling governments has serious long term consequences. The whole mess with Iran started when the U.S. government decided to overthrow the democratically elected government and install a monarch puppet to keep the oil flowing. When a popular government overthrew the Shah, they were really pissed at us and took some hostages. Then we funded Iraq during the war, they funded some terrorists and we end up in the modern day.

If you overthrow the government now, you are just going to keep the cycle going. The U.S. has no compelling interest to get involved. Spouting nonsense is hardly worth making Iran a enemy for yet another generation.
 
And who are you to judge for Iranians what direction should be.

I dislike this attitude many people have, this superior attitude.
How arrogant are we assume that we know what is better for them than they do.

Then let Israel and ME deal with it.
No way should Europe get involved, it is not UK in danger. And no, i do not care about Israel.
If it truly fears for itself. Fight by yourself.
Same for Arab countries.

And iran is at the bottom of this 'threat' league.
Afghanistan deal with.
Somalia is becoming the new Afghanistan, deal with.
North Korea.
Syria
Latin America
SAUDI ARABIA.
We talk about threats and we ignore the biggest one to the entire world because they give us oil.

This has nothing to do with saving millions of lives, the west do not care about lives.
Hundreds of thousands have died in the world with not a peep from the west, this is about control and solidfying power.
 
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rathi said:
Toppling governments has serious long term consequences. The whole mess with Iran started when the U.S. government decided to overthrow the democratically elected government and install a monarch puppet to keep the oil flowing. When a popular government overthrew the Shah, they were really pissed at us and took some hostages. Then we funded Iraq during the war, they funded some terrorists and we end up in the modern day.

If you overthrow the government now, you are just going to keep the cycle going. The U.S. has no compelling interest to get involved. Spouting nonsense is hardly worth making Iran a enemy for yet another generation.
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It's the current government that is hostile, not the people.
 
Laila said:
No one should be toppled.

Who the bloody hell do we all think we are thinking we can topple and overthrow nations just because we do not like what they say.

Hell, someone should have overthrown US Govt. when that fool Bush was in power :doh
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They did. We got an even bogger fool than Bush or Carter. We got Bobo the Vain.
 
Laila said:
And who are you to judge for Iranians what direction should be.

I dislike this attitude many people have, this superior attitude.
How arrogant are we assume that we know what is better for them than they do.

Then let Israel and ME deal with it.
No way should Europe get involved, it is not UK in danger. And no, i do not care about Israel.
If it truly fears for itself. Fight by yourself.
Same for Arab countries.

And iran is at the bottom of this 'threat' league.
Afghanistan deal with.
Somalia is becoming the new Afghanistan, deal with.
North Korea.
Syria
Latin America
SAUDI ARABIA.
We talk about threats and we ignore the biggest one to the entire world because they give us oil.

This has nothing to do with saving millions of lives, the west do not care about lives.
Hundreds of thousands have died in the world with not a peep from the west, this is about control and solidfying power.
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How the hell is Syria a bigger threat than Iran?
If Iran is Dr. Evil, Syria is probably Mini-Me.
It's the smaller version of Iran, nothing more and nothing less.
 
Laila said:
And who are you to judge for Iranians what direction should be.

I dislike this attitude many people have, this superior attitude.
How arrogant are we assume that we know what is better for them than they do.

Then let Israel and ME deal with it.
No way should Europe get involved, it is not UK in danger.

And iran is at the bottom of this 'threat' league.
Afghanistan deal with.
Somalia is becoming the new Afghanistan, deal with.
North Korea.
Syria
Latin America
SAUDI ARABIA.
We talk about threats and we ignore the biggest one to the entire world because they give us oil.

This has nothing to do with saving millions of lives, the west do not care about lives.
Hundreds of thousands have died in the world with not a peep from the west, this is about control and solidfying power.
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Who are you to tell ME what to eat?

Who are you to tell ME what to drive?

Who are you to tell ME what medicines I should take?

Who are you to tell ME what health care is right for my family?

Who are you to tell ME what I can and cannot say?

Who are you to tell ME how and where and when I can pray to my God?

Who are you to tell ME that I can not have a gun?


Oh, yes, you are a double standard Liberal. Never mind.
 
Apocalypse said:
How the hell is Syria a bigger threat than Iran?
If Iran is Dr. Evil, Syria is probably Mini-Me.
It's the smaller version of Iran, nothing more and nothing less.
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If Syria switches sides.
Iran is almost done for which is why the 'moderate' Arab countries like Egypt tried luring Syria and Iran did so much to keep hold of them.
That gives Syria more power over Iran

Either way, the very fact we are considering regime change. What do people think got us into this trouble in the first place?
The west just DO NOT KNOW when to stay out of other countries business and stop acting like they are God.
 
Laila said:
If Syria switches sides.
Iran is almost done for which is why the 'moderate' Arab countries like Egypt tried luring Syria and Iran did so much to keep hold of them.
That gives Syria more power over Iran

Either way, the very fact we are considering regime change. What do people think got us into this trouble in the first place?
The west just DO NOT KNOW when to stay out of other countries business and stop acting like they are God.
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No, Syria doesn't declare the fate of Iran or anything like that.
They're just their biggest ally, but it's not like they don't have other allies in Latin America.
Anyway, a better way to cut the ties between Syria and Iran would be to take out Iran.
 
Apocalypse said:
Anyway, a better way to cut the ties between Syria and Iran would be to take out Iran.
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No country is stupid enough (apart from Israel maybe) to take out another ME country.

And if Israel does do anything.
The west should feel no obligation to Israel at all imo
 
Apocalypse said:
It's the current government that is hostile, not the people.
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Unless we invade. Assuming we **** it up as much as iraq then they soon will be.

Alot of the talk on here about Iran reminds me of an old allegory. You walk out of a bar, see two people having a fight, you dont know what to do so you shoot both people because you dont want to "do nothing". I cant think of any way to intervene directly in Iran that wouldnt be counterproductive in some way so im tempted just to think that we should let it take its course.
 
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Red_Dave said:
Unless we invade. Assuming we **** it up as much as iraq then they soon will be.
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When do we not **** up anything we touch?
 
Laila said:
No country is stupid enough (apart from Israel maybe) to take out another ME country.

And if Israel does do anything.
The west should feel no obligation to Israel at all imo
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This has nothing to do with Israel and its alleged stupidity by your high-IQness, this is not Israel's commitment and Israel would not be the one to take out the Iranian regime.
 
Apocalypse said:
Israel would not be the one to take out the Iranian regime.
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Great.
Then Iran is in no danger.

UK will not do anything.
Neither will US, being stuck in 2 wars has drained it dry.
Europe will not do anything.

Why are we discussing this then? Ahmadinejad is safe.
 
Laila said:
Great.
Then Iran is in no danger.

UK will not do anything.
Neither will US, being stuck in 2 wars has drained it dry.
Europe will not do anything.

Why are we discussing this then? Ahmadinejad is safe.
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The US is far from being over-drained.
You are underestimating the world's strongest nation.

I never suggested that Europe would do anything against Iran.
We're speaking about the region that didn't move a finger when Hitler took power.
They're too stupid to be realizing what's going around them, especially the UK.

And yes, Ahmad is in danger, he keeps making the wrong moves, it's only a matter of time before the world will get tired from his retarded hostility.
 
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