GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon

[winston53660]

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors said Tuesday its new Chevy Volt will get 230 miles per gallon in the city, dwarfing the current mileage leader and giving the automaker reason to crow about its strides in fuel efficiency.

GM, fresh out of bankruptcy, is looking to the Volt to highlight a parade of 25 new vehicles by 2011 aimed at stemming market-share declines and bringing the automaker back to profitability. The Volt could also give GM a much-needed makeover in terms of its reputation for lagging behind the push toward "green" technology.

Scheduled for late 2010, the Volt will be able to travel up to 40 miles on electricity from a single charge, based on testing of pre-production prototypes and extend its overall range to 300 miles or more using a flex fuel-powered engine-generator.

GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon - MarketWatch



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[Renae]

IF it works as advertised, aces, I'm still not buying a GM or Chevy vehicle. My little Ford Focus get's 32-35 MPG and really, the savings on paying 12,000 vs 40,000 make it more economical.

 

[TheNextEra]

The 230 MPG is under certain conditions though. I think the CNN article explains it best:

So let's say the car is driven 50 miles in a day. For the first 40 miles, no gas is used and during the last 10 miles, 0.2 gallons are used. That's the equivalent of 250 miles per gallon. But, if the driver continues on to 80 miles, total fuel economy would drop to about 100 mpg. And if the driver goes 300 miles, the fuel economy would be just 62.5 mpg.

Chevrolet Volt's official fuel economy: 230 mpg - Aug. 11, 2009

 

[Renae]

I travel 40 miles a day in my car, occassionally I make long distance trips with a full car, 2 adults, 2 kids, 2 dogs and all our luggage.

 

[winston53660]

I travel 40 miles a day in my car, occassionally I make long distance trips with a full car, 2 adults, 2 kids, 2 dogs and all our luggage.

I use to be the N Texas rep for Kodak and I traveled all over the place. Like from Dallas to Wichita Falls a 6 hour round trip and 230 mpg would have been great.

 

[Coronado]

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors said Tuesday its new Chevy Volt will get 230 miles per gallon in the city, dwarfing the current mileage leader and giving the automaker reason to crow about its strides in fuel efficiency.

GM, fresh out of bankruptcy, is looking to the Volt to highlight a parade of 25 new vehicles by 2011 aimed at stemming market-share declines and bringing the automaker back to profitability. The Volt could also give GM a much-needed makeover in terms of its reputation for lagging behind the push toward "green" technology.

Scheduled for late 2010, the Volt will be able to travel up to 40 miles on electricity from a single charge, based on testing of pre-production prototypes and extend its overall range to 300 miles or more using a flex fuel-powered engine-generator.

GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon - MarketWatch



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That's cool. I still won't buy it though.

I'm holding out for biodiesel in a VW or a Benz.

 

[Kernel Sanders]

I travel 40 miles a day in my car, occassionally I make long distance trips with a full car, 2 adults, 2 kids, 2 dogs and all our luggage.

Which is why an electric car designed for city driving is not a good choice for you. If you lived in the city, it would be a great choice

 

[Redress]

Which is why an electric car designed for city driving is not a good choice for you. If you lived in the city, it would be a great choice

Wouldn't he actually be an ideal candidate? He rives 40 miles a day normally, during which he would use zero gas. I would not mind a car that I rarely used gas for, too bad I cannot even begin to afford a hybrid.

 

[Kernel Sanders]

Whoops, misread that post. Disregard my above comments

 

[hazlnut]

IF it works as advertised, aces, I'm still not buying a GM or Chevy vehicle. My little Ford Focus get's 32-35 MPG and really, the savings on paying 12,000 vs 40,000 make it more economical.

Is your Focus a hybrid? I'm asking because we're buying a new car this month.

 

[phattonez]

Fuel efficiency is going to be a very tricky thing once we get plug-in hybrids. Car companies will be able to post these astronomical mpg numbers, but of course we still pay for electricity. That has to be factored in somehow.

 

[Redress]

Is your Focus a hybrid? I'm asking because we're buying a new car this month.

Buy Toyota, help put me back to work.

 

[Coronado]

My question about these electric cars in general is whether they've overcome the problem of the drop in horsepower as the battery drains. Anyone know?

 

[Baralis]

Fuel efficiency is going to be a very tricky thing once we get plug-in hybrids. Car companies will be able to post these astronomical mpg numbers, but of course we still pay for electricity. That has to be factored in somehow.

I was just thinking the same thing. While it may use less gas does it use any less over all energy? If we are instead using electricity that is produced by coal and oil are we really gaining much?

 

[Renae]

Is your Focus a hybrid? I'm asking because we're buying a new car this month.

Nope, it's a regular 4 door car. I do the math, and on highways I've hit 38, but average 35.
city is 90% of the time 32.

 

[apdst]

I bet I can't pull my boat with it, which makes it purdy much useless.

 

[danarhea]

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors said Tuesday its new Chevy Volt will get 230 miles per gallon in the city, dwarfing the current mileage leader and giving the automaker reason to crow about its strides in fuel efficiency.

GM, fresh out of bankruptcy, is looking to the Volt to highlight a parade of 25 new vehicles by 2011 aimed at stemming market-share declines and bringing the automaker back to profitability. The Volt could also give GM a much-needed makeover in terms of its reputation for lagging behind the push toward "green" technology.

Scheduled for late 2010, the Volt will be able to travel up to 40 miles on electricity from a single charge, based on testing of pre-production prototypes and extend its overall range to 300 miles or more using a flex fuel-powered engine-generator.

GM: Volt will get 230 miles per gallon - MarketWatch



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Sorry, but this is a complete crock of crap. This lie is so blatant that even a 5 year old could debunk it. It all has to do with bad math. It does not take into account your charging the batteries each day. If you drive 10 miles to work each day, you get gas mileage of infinity miles to a gallon. Of course, they would be busted immediately with that kind of claim. The 230 mpg claim is pretty close, though.

Here, read THIS article from Scienceblog. If that doesn't convince you, then I would like to sell you the Houston Astrodome. :mrgreen:

 

[Ikari]

IF it works as advertised, aces, I'm still not buying a GM or Chevy vehicle. My little Ford Focus get's 32-35 MPG and really, the savings on paying 12,000 vs 40,000 make it more economical.

The one thing I thought was really funny is that people kept talking about fuel efficiency this and that, but if they were really concerned there was already a good option for the mean time. You didn't need to go hybrid or whatever other scam is out there, I have a small Chevy Caviler. It's an underpowered 4 cylinder, gets great gas mileage.


Of course my motorcycle gets even better gas mileage.

 

[rathi]

I despise the EPA regulations for MPG for hybrids. Adding the battery driven range to the gasoline range is absurdly misleading, as it has nothing to do with how efficient the vehicle is. If you shrunk the volts gas tank down a pint, if would over 1000 miles per gallon on the sticker despite nothing actually changing about the fuel efficiency.

They should change the standard so electric vehicles are rated by the fuel efficiency of the gasoline engine as well as posting the range you can go on battery. So a plug-in hyrbid would read 45mpg+40E according to EPA standards.

Although the volt is a not so great implementation, it is a useful testbed for other technologies. The range extended vehicle concept is far superior to the Prius with its complicated transmission. The technology is useful for testing electric motors and drivetrains, which are quite immature. It will speed the development for full electric cars when a suitable battery technology becomes available. Also, someone might get the bright idea for hybrid without a heavy battery.

 

[danarhea]

The one thing I thought was really funny is that people kept talking about fuel efficiency this and that, but if they were really concerned there was already a good option for the mean time. You didn't need to go hybrid or whatever other scam is out there, I have a small Chevy Caviler. It's an underpowered 4 cylinder, gets great gas mileage.


Of course my motorcycle gets even better gas mileage.

I also have a Chevy Cavalier. I get 32MPG, and am a lot happier than when I had my van, which only got about 8MPG. LOL.

 

[danarhea]

I despise the EPA regulations for MPG for hybrids. Adding the battery driven range to the gasoline range is absurdly misleading, as it has nothing to do with how efficient the vehicle is. If you shrunk the volts gas tank down a pint, if would over 1000 miles per gallon on the sticker despite nothing actually changing about the fuel efficiency.

They should change the standard so electric vehicles are rated by the fuel efficiency of the gasoline engine as well as posting the range you can go on battery. So a plug-in hyrbid would read 45mpg+40E according to EPA standards.

Although the volt is a not so great implementation, it is a useful testbed for other technologies. The range extended vehicle concept is far superior to the Prius with its complicated transmission. The technology is useful for testing electric motors and drivetrains, which are quite immature. It will speed the development for full electric cars when a suitable battery technology becomes available. Also, someone might get the bright idea for hybrid without a heavy battery.

I have a great idea. Put a windmill on top of the car that generates electricity. Then you don't need ANY gasoline, because you are running on......

Perpetual motion..... Oops, never mind. :mrgreen:

 

[Ikari]

I despise the EPA regulations for MPG for hybrids. Adding the battery driven range to the gasoline range is absurdly misleading, as it has nothing to do with how efficient the vehicle is. If you shrunk the volts gas tank down a pint, if would over 1000 miles per gallon on the sticker despite nothing actually changing about the fuel efficiency.

EPA for the most part is full of ****, especially when it comes to cars. When I get a motorcycle, one of the first things I do is to rip off the air box and replace it with straight air filters into the carburetor. Though that does mean I also have to rejet the carburetor in order to get the proper air/fuel mixture. But I get free horsepower by taking off that air box.

 

[earthworm]

I travel 40 miles a day in my car, occasionally I make long distance trips with a full car, 2 adults, 2 kids, 2 dogs and all our luggage.

And ?

This is why our nation is bankrupt.
230 mpg...:spin:
No one "tells the truth".
But I will try.
An average of 50 mpg for 100,000 miles in my '85 VW Golf; small ?; thats a matter of opinion..
Slow? ; again, I was faster than the big rigs, and less economical.
The electric is great for those who make short trips....many of us do...
Our wonderful environmentalists have killed the Diesel; five years from now, maybe 50% of our motor vehicles will be electric, which will be good, as long as they are Chevrolets and Fords..
Chrysler/Fiat will go the way of Packard and Hudson..sadly.

 

[earthworm]

I have a great idea. Put a windmill on top of the car that generates electricity. Then you don't need ANY gasoline, because you are running on......

Perpetual motion..... Oops, never mind. :mrgreen:

We must bury Madison Avenue and its cheap advertising and intellectually grow to discuss these things, seriously ...The windmill is not a great idea, its an old idea whose time has returned, as the wind turbine.

 

[mpg]

Where does the electricity come from? Coal?