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Congress drops plan to spend $550 million on new jets

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Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:17pm EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House leaders have dropped plans to spend $550 million in the Air Force budget on passenger jets used by lawmakers and senior government officials, officials said on Monday.


The House of Representatives reversed the move to upgrade the executive jet fleet after public criticism, opposition from other lawmakers and the Defense Department had said it did not need more planes that it had requested.


"If the Department of Defense does not want these aircraft, they will be eliminated from the bill," Representative John Murtha, chairman of a House panel on defense appropriations, said in a statement.

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Kudos to Secretary Gates for opposin this. He is the first Defense Secretary in a long time who seems genuinely concerned with wasteful spending in his department.
 
The people have been heard. It seems that our system of government is working fine.
 
This a perfect example of what can take place when the Leftist Liberal media does there job and reports on the news honestly. If they were to tell the truth about "Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan" and Cap and Trade, they would have been D.O.A.
Gates spoke up but so did plenty of true Americans not part of the Pelosi clone screw America group.
 
Its great to finaly see them listen to the people for a change. Now if we can only get them to listen the other 99.99% of the time.
 
This a perfect example of what can take place when the Leftist Liberal media does there job and reports on the news honestly. If they were to tell the truth about "Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan" and Cap and Trade, they would have been D.O.A.
Gates spoke up but so did plenty of true Americans not part of the Pelosi clone screw America group.

Just by reading your post, I can clearly see that the rightist conservative media that you choose to read is not being honest too. Tsk tsk.

Kudos for the decision not to spend on the extragevence.
 
This thread makes me laugh; we are all happy and giddy about a $550 million couple of airplanes the Congress wanted to buy after dissing Auto Execs for flying theirs while the Government spends us into oblivion.

We're heading for a $2 trillion deficit; the National debt is reaching par with GDP and the interest on that debt is costing the American people billions a year.

This is like a tiny drop in the bucket and the $550 million wouldn't even pay this years interest on the debt. There are much BIGGER things to either CUT, or to be TAXED if we want out of this mess. But hey, at least he isn’t Bush right?

:rofl
 
This thread makes me laugh; we are all happy and giddy about a $550 million couple of airplanes the Congress wanted to buy after dissing Auto Execs for flying theirs while the Government spends us into oblivion.

We're heading for a $2 trillion deficit; the National debt is reaching par with GDP and the interest on that debt is costing the American people billions a year.

This is like a tiny drop in the bucket and the $550 million wouldn't even pay this years interest on the debt. There are much BIGGER things to either CUT, or to be TAXED if we want out of this mess. But hey, at least he isn’t Bush right?

:rofl

When Bush was spending, you didn't have a problem with it. Tit for tat.
 
When Bush was spending, you didn't have a problem with it. Tit for tat.

How do you know this? Did you ask me if I had a problem with it? No, i don't recall that conversation. So if we never had that conversation, how then do you divine what it is I have problems with? Oh yes that's right, you make it all up.

But stating that OBVIOUS fact, I certainly always have a problem when the government spends MORE than it takes in. I am not sure how anyone who has read my posts with an open mind can take anything else away from it.

But the notion that one can deal with the devastating effects of 9-11, Hurricane Katrina and the asinine criticisms on how to deal with it by the media, and two wars in the Middle East and NOT have a deficit requires willful ignorance, or perhaps hyper partisan denial?

The ONLY reason I accepted the fact that we squandered the deficit was the FACT that I supported the war efforts and remember the devastating effects of the attacks on 9-11 on this economy and Government and those of a major natural disaster in the Gulf Coast while you conveniently ignore them for simplistic convenient partisan political purposes.

What is amusing about your views, and others with similar views, is that you support the current administrations vast expansion of Government and deficit spending while still criticizing Bush's tiny little $200 billion deficit. It is OBVIOUS that spending is certainly not your concern, just HOW it is spent right?

The notion that anyone can still be talking about Bush's $200 billion deficit in the face of almost $2 trillion defies common sense and logic.

Carry on. :2wave:
 
I bet the airplane manufacturers are hurting badly right now. The business hasn't been good for many years....then 9/11 made it fall off a cliff....now there's more of any outcry when government money goes to jets than when it goes to hookers. I kinda gotta feel bad for them
 
But stating that OBVIOUS fact, I certainly always have a problem when the government spends MORE than it takes in. I am not sure how anyone who has read my posts with an open mind can take anything else away from it.

But the notion that one can deal with the devastating effects of 9-11, Hurricane Katrina and the asinine criticisms on how to deal with it by the media, and two wars in the Middle East and NOT have a deficit requires willful ignorance, or perhaps hyper partisan denial?

The ONLY reason I accepted the fact that we squandered the deficit was the FACT that I supported the war efforts and remember the devastating effects of the attacks on 9-11 on this economy and Government and those of a major natural disaster in the Gulf Coast while you conveniently ignore them for simplistic convenient partisan political purposes.

So you were OK with deficits when we had wars or a natural disaster. I'm OK with deficits when we have an economic disaster that is far, far worse (in monetary terms) than 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina or even the Iraq War. What makes this any different?
 
When Bush was spending, you didn't have a problem with it. Tit for tat.

Bush wasn't pissing the money away on welfare programs that were certain failues. Big difference.
 
This thread makes me laugh; we are all happy and giddy about a $550 million couple of airplanes the Congress wanted to buy after dissing Auto Execs for flying theirs while the Government spends us into oblivion.

We're heading for a $2 trillion deficit; the National debt is reaching par with GDP and the interest on that debt is costing the American people billions a year.

This is like a tiny drop in the bucket and the $550 million wouldn't even pay this years interest on the debt. There are much BIGGER things to either CUT, or to be TAXED if we want out of this mess. But hey, at least he isn’t Bush right?

:rofl

You gotta have token trophies to point to at the wall. Especially when people ask you about **** that's bad for ya. ;)
 
Kudos to Secretary Gates for opposin this. He is the first Defense Secretary in a long time who seems genuinely concerned with wasteful spending in his department.

Oh, nonsense. The stupid planes became a political lightning rod, he was ordered to reduce the request, which Congress could have done without him.

The important thing is that more people are starting to watch the double-dealing bastards in Congress.
 
Bush wasn't pissing the money away on welfare programs that were certain failues. Big difference.

What's "No Child Left Behind" again? How about his aid to faith based "charities"? There's the Drugs for Seniors scam...


No, Bushy was a liberal, and all liberals piss away OPM like it's going out of style.
 
This a perfect example of what can take place when the Leftist Liberal media does there job and reports on the news honestly. If they were to tell the truth about "Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan" and Cap and Trade, they would have been D.O.A.
Gates spoke up but so did plenty of true Americans not part of the Pelosi clone screw America group.

Oh come on now you said "Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Care Kill Granny Plan" do you or any of the people who are screaming as the town halls even have an inkling as to what end of life discussions are ?

NO, HUH !! Well I didn't think so!!!
 
Bush wasn't pissing the money away on welfare programs that were certain failures. Big difference.

Like abstinence only? Oh wait.

How about the socialist drug bill his administration had to rely on blackmail to ensure that the FDA actuary wouldn't reveal the true costs?
 
The notion that anyone can still be talking about Bush's $200 billion deficit in the face of almost $2 trillion defies common sense and logic.

Bush's deficit was over two trillion dollars collectively; if you're going year by year, I doubt Obama's deficit will be 2 trillion every year, and Bush's average is over $300 billion. Anyway, that is the cost of averting a second Great Depression and preventing Medicare/Medicaid from breaking the federal budget a couple decades down the road. Money had to be spent to fix it some time, so why not before we string out the losses over the next couple decades?
 
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Bush's deficit was over a trillion dollars collectively;

Technically more if you discount money.

if you're going year by year, I doubt Obama's deficit will be 2 trillion every year, and Bush's average is over $300 billion.

And people ignore much of it was Bush Era spending. Interesting how people refuse to admit this.
 
Like abstinence only? Oh wait.

How about the socialist drug bill his administration had to rely on blackmail to ensure that the FDA actuary wouldn't reveal the true costs?

Don't forget "every child left behind," in which 2 journalists were paid with tax payer money to promote it.
 
Just by reading your post, I can clearly see that the rightist conservative media that you choose to read is not being honest too. Tsk tsk.

Kudos for the decision not to spend on the extragevence.
That's pretty much like thanking roaches for hiding when the lights come on.
 
How do you know this? Did you ask me if I had a problem with it? No, i don't recall that conversation. So if we never had that conversation, how then do you divine what it is I have problems with? Oh yes that's right, you make it all up.

But stating that OBVIOUS fact, I certainly always have a problem when the government spends MORE than it takes in. I am not sure how anyone who has read my posts with an open mind can take anything else away from it.

But the notion that one can deal with the devastating effects of 9-11, Hurricane Katrina and the asinine criticisms on how to deal with it by the media, and two wars in the Middle East and NOT have a deficit requires willful ignorance, or perhaps hyper partisan denial?

The ONLY reason I accepted the fact that we squandered the deficit was the FACT that I supported the war efforts and remember the devastating effects of the attacks on 9-11 on this economy and Government and those of a major natural disaster in the Gulf Coast while you conveniently ignore them for simplistic convenient partisan political purposes.

What is amusing about your views, and others with similar views, is that you support the current administrations vast expansion of Government and deficit spending while still criticizing Bush's tiny little $200 billion deficit. It is OBVIOUS that spending is certainly not your concern, just HOW it is spent right?

The notion that anyone can still be talking about Bush's $200 billion deficit in the face of almost $2 trillion defies common sense and logic.

Carry on. :2wave:
I wonder how Canada would fair if they put out to the level that the US does.
 
Bush's deficit was over two trillion dollars collectively; if you're going year by year, I doubt Obama's deficit will be 2 trillion every year, and Bush's average is over $300 billion. Anyway, that is the cost of averting a second Great Depression and preventing Medicare/Medicaid from breaking the federal budget a couple decades down the road. Money had to be spent to fix it some time, so why not before we string out the losses over the next couple decades?
How much deficit is $29,000,000,000,000 over 10 years?
 
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