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Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care

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Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care - The Back Story - Washington Times

Tensions are running so high at town hall meetings that Rep. David Scott, a Georgia Democrat, yelled at a local doctor concerned about health care after mistaking him for an "astroturf" political operative looking for a fight.

Mr. Scott became visibly agitated when one of his constituents, a practicing doctor, asked a few questions about health care reform during a town hall meeting. The meeting was held to discuss a road project, but was opened up for questions near the end. That's when Dr. Brian Hill stood up to speak.

The Anti-Republicans are irritated at voters for asking questions. Probably because they don't have any good answers.
 
Georgia Democrat yells at local doctor over health care - The Back Story - Washington Times



The Anti-Republicans are irritated at voters for asking questions. Probably because they don't have any good answers.

Noooooo. Nice spin, but not quite true. It's not the questions(hence why there are all these town hall type meetings), but how some of the people asking the questions are asking them. This does not excuse Rep. Scott's actions, but does explain them to a bit.
 
Noooooo. Nice spin, but not quite true. It's not the questions(hence why there are all these town hall type meetings), but how some of the people asking the questions are asking them. This does not excuse Rep. Scott's actions, but does explain them to a bit.

How were they being asked?
 
How were they being asked?
Dr. Hill asked Mr. Scott why he was going to vote for a health care plan similar to that implemented in Massachusetts "that is shown not to work" and if he supported a government-provided health care insurance option.

Real confrontational and rude, don't you think?:2razz:
 
Wasn't the doc a dem?
 
How were they being asked?

There are some video's around of the disruptive efforts some groups are suing at these town halls. I don't think this was the case in this instance, I think Rep. Scott jumped to a wrong conclusion, but if you see some of the shouting battles that have gone on, you can understand at least why he might make that mistake.
 
Dr. Hill asked Mr. Scott why he was going to vote for a health care plan similar to that implemented in Massachusetts "that is shown not to work" and if he supported a government-provided health care insurance option.

Real confrontational and rude, don't you think?:2razz:

Well that is awfully polite.
Did not deserve a yell
 
There are some video's around of the disruptive efforts some groups are suing at these town halls. I don't think this was the case in this instance, I think Rep. Scott jumped to a wrong conclusion, but if you see some of the shouting battles that have gone on, you can understand at least why he might make that mistake.

I really can't understand how that question could be interpreted in any other way.

And no i haven't seen the videos of the town halls, are they that bad?
 
Noooooo. Nice spin, but not quite true. It's not the questions(hence why there are all these town hall type meetings), but how some of the people asking the questions are asking them. This does not excuse Rep. Scott's actions, but does explain them to a bit.
So it's ok for the Anti-Republicans to get huffy and angry with constituents who ask awkward questions the Anti-Republicans would rather not answer, but it's not ok for constituents to get angry at the Anti-Republicans for failing to represent constituent interests and desires? Err....no. There is no excuse for Congressmen snarling at questions just because they don't like the questions--bad form, bad manners, bad politics.

Congressmen who fail to pay attention to their constituents merit all the ass-chewing they get and then some. The Anti-Republicans are just pissed that voters won't take them at their word that all the pie-in-the-sky promises that Dear Leader made about health care really will come true, and that no one need fret about the details buried in those thousand pages.

And why should voters do such a silly thing? The Anti-Republicans have already admitted they haven't read it. They only plan on voting on it. Reading it and understanding it....well, the Anti-Republicans have people for that (just not "We the People", it seems).
 
There are some video's around of the disruptive efforts some groups are suing at these town halls. I don't think this was the case in this instance, I think Rep. Scott jumped to a wrong conclusion, but if you see some of the shouting battles that have gone on, you can understand at least why he might make that mistake.
You know, I've never gotten angry because of reports of someone shouting at someone else....I usually keep my ire contained until someone starts shouting at me.

unRepresentative Scott blew up over a tough question because he doesn't have a good answer. He blew up because he figured (wrongly) that he could spin it by redirecting the topic into how questioners "disrupt" town halls.

unRepresentative Scott should have come to the town hall meeting more prepared. Instead he chose to emulate Dear Leader and not do his homework. The result: bad form, bad manners, bad politics. Seems to be the standard for the Anti-Republicans these days.
 
I really can't understand how that question could be interpreted in any other way.

And no i haven't seen the videos of the town halls, are they that bad?
Only when the labor union thugs start throwing punches at people and dragging them away from town hall meetings.
 
Only when the labor union thugs start throwing punches at people and dragging them away from town hall meetings.

... You are not joking as well

Does that erm, happen often? (Are they even allowed to do that?)
 
... You are not joking as well

Does that erm, happen often? (Are they even allowed to do that?)
Sadly, no, I am not joking.

Does it happen often? Not historically. Generally speaking, town hall meetings are exercises in ennui. But with the rise of public protest over the Anti-Republicans cram-down tactics, the Anti-Republicans' goon squad (also known as labor unions) have been resorting to their tried-and-true tactics.

Google "Kenneth Gladney". For protesting against HR3200 he got put in the hospital.

So far, I am unaware of any of the labor union hooligans being arrested.
 
Google "Kenneth Gladney". For protesting against HR3200 he got put in the hospital.

So far, I am unaware of any of the labor union hooligans being arrested.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtDRx3h8JJA&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Black Conservative Kenneth Gladney Attacked, Called Racial Slur at St. Louis Health Care Town Hall[/ame]

Intimidation and assault is never acceptable.
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I hope they are arrested .... and sued.

To be fair to Republicans, i don't recall trade unions stopping democrats entering town halls when they were protesting everything
 
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So it's ok for the Anti-Republicans to get huffy and angry with constituents who ask awkward questions the Anti-Republicans would rather not answer, but it's not ok for constituents to get angry at the Anti-Republicans for failing to represent constituent interests and desires? Err....no. There is no excuse for Congressmen snarling at questions just because they don't like the questions--bad form, bad manners, bad politics.

Congressmen who fail to pay attention to their constituents merit all the ass-chewing they get and then some. The Anti-Republicans are just pissed that voters won't take them at their word that all the pie-in-the-sky promises that Dear Leader made about health care really will come true, and that no one need fret about the details buried in those thousand pages.

And why should voters do such a silly thing? The Anti-Republicans have already admitted they haven't read it. They only plan on voting on it. Reading it and understanding it....well, the Anti-Republicans have people for that (just not "We the People", it seems).

I see you are still quick to misrepresent what some one is saying.

I tried to be clear, but in case you missed it, to be clear, I think rep. Scott was in the wrong in this case.

I also want to be clear that I believe there is a problem with people of both sides making asses of themselves at these town halls, and these people are interfering with those who are actually interested in hearing what their rep has to say. I know this is not something you will be able to do, but could you at least try to take a second, look at this from a nonpartisan stance and see how some on both sides are in the wrong, and admit it.
 
When all else fails. Act real pissed and pretend to be dumb. I've used it myself to get out of a sticky situation. People forget what the problem was about and become charmed.
 
I also want to be clear that I believe there is a problem with people of both sides making asses of themselves at these town halls, and these people are interfering with those who are actually interested in hearing what their rep has to say. I know this is not something you will be able to do, but could you at least try to take a second, look at this from a nonpartisan stance and see how some on both sides are in the wrong, and admit it.
I agree that getting ugly and getting violent in a public forum is wrong and should not be tolerated....oh wait, that's what the labor union thugs are doing to health care protesters. The protesters are the ones getting beaten and pushed aside--they're not the ones doing the beating and pushing.
 
I agree that getting ugly and getting violent in a public forum is wrong and should not be tolerated....oh wait, that's what the labor union thugs are doing to health care protesters. The protesters are the ones getting beaten and pushed aside--they're not the ones doing the beating and pushing.

And those getting violent should be arrested and prosecuted. However, this does not excuse those anti's who shout down and try and disrupt these events. I find it interesting how you cannot admit that people on your side of the issue can be in the wrong....
 
I agree that getting ugly and getting violent in a public forum is wrong and should not be tolerated....oh wait, that's what the labor union thugs are doing to health care protesters. The protesters are the ones getting beaten and pushed aside--they're not the ones doing the beating and pushing.

To be fair some of the regular folks are shouting crap at their representatives to make a stand and not allowing the rep to answer.

I think if all were to remain cordial and allow the reps to back themselves in a corner, that would speak louder than anger.
 
And those getting violent should be arrested and prosecuted. However, this does not excuse those anti's who shout down and try and disrupt these events. I find it interesting how you cannot admit that people on your side of the issue can be in the wrong....
If they were truly being disruptive, cops would be handing out citations for disturbing the peace. Angry citizens are going to shout. The way to avoid that is for their representatives to not make them angry in the first place.

Town Halls never strictly adhere to Robert's Rules of Order. It's rather pathetic that the only response the Anti-Republicans have to the ad hoc anger of citizens is to complain about being the focal point of that anger.

People are pissed. The Anti-Republicans need to take two steps back and ask themselves why that is.
 
If they were truly being disruptive, cops would be handing out citations for disturbing the peace. Angry citizens are going to shout. The way to avoid that is for their representatives to not make them angry in the first place.

Town Halls never strictly adhere to Robert's Rules of Order. It's rather pathetic that the only response the Anti-Republicans have to the ad hoc anger of citizens is to complain about being the focal point of that anger.

People are pissed. The Anti-Republicans need to take two steps back and ask themselves why that is.

It is entirely possible to be disruptive without breaking any laws.
 
It is entirely possible to be disruptive without breaking any laws.
Translation: Anti-Republicans dish it out but can't take it. Must suck for those Congressmen to see the tables turned on them that way.
 
Translation: Anti-Republicans dish it out but can't take it. Must suck for those Congressmen to see the tables turned on them that way.

Keep up the hyperpartisan attacking. I enjoy watching you marginalize yourself.

The actual translation is that, no matter who you are, if you try and disrupt an informative meeting, you are an ass, but not necessarily a criminal.
 
Not sure what the representative's problem is. Teachers put up with disruptive cr*p all day, every day, and they manage to keep their cool.
 
The video of the incident is here:11Alive.com | Atlanta, GA | Video

I don't think anyone was out line. The comments he made were directed at the group rather than the doctor and he seemed pissed that he got a health care reform question when they asked for questions on the topic at hand, a road project, he then told all the health care meeting was on another date in another place and gave information for the meeting.

Make no mistake, the congressmen who will presumably be voting for the bill when it comes up know they are under attack by powerful interests do not be surprised when they act defensively or get upset when someone hands them a loaded question.

The doctor in the video was very confrontational from the get go. Maybe he had a valid question but he chose the wrong venue and the wrong tone to ask it.
 
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