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In good sign, job losses slow as unemployment dips

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In good sign, job losses slow as unemployment dips - Yahoo! News

Employers sharply scaled back layoffs in July, and the unemployment rate dipped for the first time in 15 months, sending a strong signal that the worst recession since World War II is finally ending.

The "party of no" isn't going to like this. Further signs that Obama's plans are turning around the economy.
 
You know, its funny...

2002-2006, whenever someone posted some sort of good news about the economy, those who are now touting the current signs of the economy turnng around (certainly because of The Obama) were the first to dismiss similar signs as meaningless.

But, I guess since GWB had an (R) next to his name and there was an election coming up, that was understandable.

:doh
 
Employers sharply scaled back layoffs in July, and the unemployment rate dipped for the first time in 15 months, sending a strong signal that the worst recession since World War II is finally ending.
Never mind the blatant lie found in the above quote.
No, there's no liberal slant to the media...
 
I just heard on ABC Radio News, that the only reason the unemployment rate went down, is because many of the unemployed have stopped looking, not that things are getting any better.

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I just heard on ABC Radio News, that the only reason the unemployment rate went down, is because many of the unemployed have stopped looking, not that things are getting any better.
Now see, that's an example of what I mean -- they said the same thing in 2004!

Was it true then and a lie now?
Was it a lie then and true now?
Was it true then and true now?
Was it a lie then and a lie now?
 
In good sign, job losses slow as unemployment dips - Yahoo! News

Employers sharply scaled back layoffs in July, and the unemployment rate dipped for the first time in 15 months, sending a strong signal that the worst recession since World War II is finally ending.

The "party of no" isn't going to like this. Further signs that Obama's plans are turning around the economy.

Any sign of improvement is welcome, but to claim this is the result of Obama policies is unjustified unless you can connect his policies with the recovery. Without that, the connection made here could just be one that is spurious.

How have Obama's policies contributed to this news?
 
While economy recovery is something we all hope for, a .1% change in unemployement just isn't gonna excite me.

Now a trend of 3-4 months of improvement, then we'll get interested in "recovery". What I ask, will you say DD if next months numbers climb again?
 
While economy recovery is something we all hope for, a .1% change in unemployement just isn't gonna excite me.

Now a trend of 3-4 months of improvement, then we'll get interested in "recovery". What I ask, will you say DD if next months numbers climb again?

I agree. Hey Vich.... how about this. Let's say come January. If the economy doesn't show signs of recovery in a significant way, I will freely admit that Obama's policies have not been working.

On the otherhand, are you willing to give Obama credit if the economy shows strong signs of recovery?
 
I agree. Hey Vich.... how about this. Let's say come January. If the economy doesn't show signs of recovery in a significant way, I will freely admit that Obama's policies have not been working.

On the otherhand, are you willing to give Obama credit if the economy shows strong signs of recovery?

Sounds fair enough. 7.5% or lower unemployment and I'll agree The stimulus had effect. 9.0% or higher you admit failure, anything in between we agree it's stagnant.
 
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While economy recovery is something we all hope for, a .1% change in unemployement just isn't gonna excite me.

Now a trend of 3-4 months of improvement, then we'll get interested in "recovery". What I ask, will you say DD if next months numbers climb again?

I have a feeling that you would take issue with any numbers, no matter how optimistic.
 
Sounds fair enough. 7.5% or lower unemployment and I'll agree The stimulus had effect. 9.0% or higher you admit failure, anything in between we agree it's stagnant.

Fair enough. Agreed.
 
There's already a thread on this

Here's what I posted in the other thread. Still looking for an answer - I'm no economist

The article says that jobs were cut overall

A net total of 247,000 jobs were lost last month, the fewest in a year.

If the total number of jobs is down, doesn't falling unemployment just mean that a large number of people are no longer looking for jobs, and so don't factor into the numbers despite being unemployed? If that's true, is falling unemployment still a good thing?
 
Now see, that's an example of what I mean -- they said the same thing in 2004!

Was it true then and a lie now?
Was it a lie then and true now?
Was it true then and true now?
Was it a lie then and a lie now?

I never said it was a lie back then.

You know, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. When the country loses nearly 300,000 jobs, yet the unemployment rate goes down, you know something isn't right.

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"President Barack Obama on Friday welcomed a dip in unemployment as evidence "the worst may be behind us" with the recession well into its second year. Earlier, however, the White House said that the president still expects unemployment to hit 10 percent sometime later this year."

White House still warns of 10 percent jobless rate - Yahoo! News

Not good news. If the economy hits 10% later this year, I doubt it will get below 9% by January.
 
Any sign of improvement is welcome, but to claim this is the result of Obama policies is unjustified unless you can connect his policies with the recovery. Without that, the connection made here could just be one that is spurious.

How have Obama's policies contributed to this news?

You can not have it both ways...do you understand this? You can not go around saying if bad news comes that it is his fault and responsibility, and if good news comes say it is for another reason. Either you own it or you do not.
 
You can not have it both ways...do you understand this? You can not go around saying if bad news comes that it is his fault and responsibility, and if good news comes say it is for another reason. Either you own it or you do not.

I got into this same discussion a week ago with another member of this ilk....

Who basically said, if the economy continues to struggle its all Obama's fault. If it improves....well....that's just "natural cycle".

I tried to get him to commit to a deal whereby I agreed that if the economy doesn't improve Obama should take the blame....if it improves he should get the credit.

Any guesses on whether the "good Rev" was willing to commit? :doh
 
In good sign, job losses slow as unemployment dips - Yahoo! News

Employers sharply scaled back layoffs in July, and the unemployment rate dipped for the first time in 15 months, sending a strong signal that the worst recession since World War II is finally ending.

The "party of no" isn't going to like this. Further signs that Obama's plans are turning around the economy.

This ain't no where close to being over. It'll be fall, then winter, before long and the winter months are always the slowest. We ain't seen nothin' yet.
 
"President Barack Obama on Friday welcomed a dip in unemployment as evidence "the worst may be behind us" with the recession well into its second year. Earlier, however, the White House said that the president still expects unemployment to hit 10 percent sometime later this year."

White House still warns of 10 percent jobless rate - Yahoo! News

Not good news. If the economy hits 10% later this year, I doubt it will get below 9% by January.

There was an article in Politico, can't find it now, about the transportation bill. In essence it talked about the conflict this bill could have with the healthcare reform bill. Anyways one point is that most economists have all said we need another stimulus. As pointed out in this article the transportation bill would not only have bi-partisan support, it would easily pass as a stimulus. When this bill goes through, or if it does, it may have a direct impact on the unemployment numbers.

Anyone seen this article, it was up yesterday, please post a link.
 
This ain't no where close to being over. It'll be fall, then winter, before long and the winter months are always the slowest. We ain't seen nothin' yet.

Wishful thinking on your part I'm certain.

For the sake of America....I hope you are wrong.
 
I got into this same discussion a week ago with another member of this ilk....

Who basically said, if the economy continues to struggle its all Obama's fault. If it improves....well....that's just "natural cycle".

I tried to get him to commit to a deal whereby I agreed that if the economy doesn't improve Obama should take the blame....if it improves he should get the credit.

Any guesses on whether the "good Rev" was willing to commit? :doh

Remember in a speech I think back in May or June, the President took responsibility for the economy, to which the right said fine, we will hold you to it. So in that case, if they want to blather about bad news, then they have to acknowledge honestly the good news.
 
Remember in a speech I think back in May or June, the President took responsibility for the economy, to which the right said fine, we will hold you to it. So in that case, if they want to blather about bad news, then they have to acknowledge honestly the good news.

Don't hold your breath.....that's all I can say.
 
You can not have it both ways...do you understand this? You can not go around saying if bad news comes that it is his fault and responsibility, and if good news comes say it is for another reason. Either you own it or you do not.

Absolutely correct! Own it or you do not. Please link the post where I stated he is to blame for anything. Good luck.

With that said, how are Obama's policies responsible for the news of better then expected jobs report? No answer as of yet, but the claim is made.

I can hear crickets chirping.
 
Wishful thinking on your part I'm certain.

For the sake of America....I hope you are wrong.

It's not wishful thinking. It's fact. Alot of jobs in this country are seasonal and the industries that support those jobs are effected by that winter slowdown. It happens every year. NOW was the time to create new jobs and boost the economy. But, they blew that chance. Don't expect the economy to boom again, until the Libbos aren't in office anymore.
 
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