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Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

Nevermind that this is a BS statistic.

Never mind that you are clueless on the subject, offer no effective dispute, so therefore this is pointless, you know kind of like the whole IG argument :rofl
 
LOL
I am probably more pro life than you.
Not even probably. I AM more Pro life than you.
So long as you find it convenient....
 
US and many other countries sanctions the taking of human lives through death penalty.
Infact many soldiers when aboard during war involves taking human life
Hell, thousands if not tens of thousands of human lives are stolen everyday because of lack of water, medicine and shelter.

Which is why I'm against the death penalty, war, and abortion.
 
It means as much as you saying they are selfish.
Its impossible to argue otherwise.
You simply -saying- so is not an argument.
 
It was an example of people doing things that are illegal, even though they are illegal. I could have used "rob" or "rape" or "extort", all to the same effect.

It is fairly common rhetoric amongst the anti-choice to equate abortion with murder so no you could not have used the above to the same effect.
 
It is fairly common rhetoric amongst the anti-choice to equate abortion with murder so no you could not have used the above to the same effect.
Yes I could, given the point I was trying to make -- that people might break a law is not an argument against having that law.
 
So long as you find it convenient....

I am pro life because i value human life. More than you.
I am pro choice because women have a right over their own womb and i'd be damned before the state or anyone else have any legal say over it.

How does it feel knowing thousands of civilians died in Iraq and Afghanistan? Are those not lives as well? Not as important as foetuses?
 
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:2wave: Hello...come down to earth please. Good god, this is your source? You really want to use this source?

I will give you ONE more try, and just one more try. Hint, look for something a tad bit more credible and independent maybe. At least show some effort and I could have maybe a ounce of respect.
 
Yes I could, given the point I was trying to make -- that people might break a law is not an argument against having that law.

And there are a lot of stupid laws. So really there is no point.
 
I have some toenails that have been giving me trouble for a while now and when they give me my free insurance, I'm going to get them taken care of.
 
Which is why I'm against the death penalty, war, and abortion.

At least you are consistent.

I dislike it when people are somehow Pro DP, War but against Abortion. Talk about hypocrisy.
 
I am pro life because i value human life. More than you.
I am pro choice because a women have a right over their own womb and i'd be damned before the state or anyone else have any legal say over it.

How does it feel knowing thousands of civilians died in Iraq and Afghanistan? Are those not lives as well? Not as important as foetuses?

Death of any sort is sad and unfortunate. War should be the last option and should be resolved quickly (unlike Iraq, which we never should have gotten into). But you can't claim to value human life while supporting abortion. Either you say the woman can do as she likes with her womb including killing the life she helped to create, or you value the life itself more and claim that the human life created should be allowed the opportunity to life.
 
:2wave: Hello...come down to earth please. Good god, this is your source? You really want to use this source?

I will give you ONE more try, and just one more try. Hint, look for something a tad bit more credible and independent maybe. At least show some effort and I could have maybe a ounce of respect.

STATEMENT 2 Some 47 million Americans do not have health insurance.

This number from the Census Bureau is often cited as evidence that the health system is failing for many American families. Yet by masking tremendous heterogeneity in personal circumstances, the figure exaggerates the magnitude of the problem.

To start with, the 47 million includes about 10 million residents who are not American citizens. Many are illegal immigrants. Even if we had national health insurance, they would probably not be covered.

The number also fails to take full account of Medicaid, the government’s health program for the poor. For instance, it counts millions of the poor who are eligible for Medicaid but have not yet applied. These individuals, who are healthier, on average, than those who are enrolled, could always apply if they ever needed significant medical care. They are uninsured in name only.

The 47 million also includes many who could buy insurance but haven’t. The Census Bureau reports that 18 million of the uninsured have annual household income of more than $50,000, which puts them in the top half of the income distribution. About a quarter of the uninsured have been offered employer-provided insurance but declined coverage.

Of course, millions of Americans have trouble getting health insurance. But they number far less than 47 million, and they make up only a few percent of the population of 300 million.

Any reform should carefully focus on this group to avoid disrupting the vast majority for whom the system is working. We do not nationalize an industry simply because a small percentage of the work force is unemployed. Similarly, we should be wary of sweeping reforms of our health system if they are motivated by the fact that a small percentage of the population is uninsured.

The New York Times > Log In

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By the way, where's YOUR source?
 
So a child, is the same as a raping murdering dirtbag?

A life is a life.
Nothing about it being the same or not.

I don't think the state should sanction death on its citizens. I think it is disgusting and barbaric and it says something about states that employ it.
 
A life is a life.
Nothing about it being the same or not.

I don't think the state should sanction death on its citizens. I think it is disgusting and barbaric and it says something about states that employ it.




hmm... I think you confuse me as "pro-life" instead of "anti-abortion"..... In my wordly travels, I have come to the conclusion that sometimes, people do need to be killed....

Unborn childeren are not one of them however.
 
Death of any sort is sad and unfortunate. War should be the last option and should be resolved quickly (unlike Iraq, which we never should have gotten into). But you can't claim to value human life while supporting abortion. Either you say the woman can do as she likes with her womb including killing the life she helped to create, or you value the life itself more and claim that the human life created should be allowed the opportunity to life.

I do not support the act of Abortion, i have seen Abortion and think it is disgusting nor if i had the power would i wish for anyone to Abort but there are circumstances in which i would support it. Same for war, it may be wrong 99% of the time to go to war but there will always be a cause which is worth dying and killing for.
 
Oh American humour is so weird. I just don't get it sometimes :lol:

I give quarter to life.
I would never support the re introduction of death penalty to UK.
Do you know one of the few last women who were hung in UK happened because she killed her husband after years of abuse, she was suffering from battered woman syndrome and she had suffered a miscarriage 10 days previously after he beat her.

Just a random interesting fact for you





So wouldn't being anti-death penalty pro abortion, be like equally hypocritical in your eyes, and not in a better way?
 
A life is a life.
Nothing about it being the same or not.

I don't think the state should sanction death on its citizens. I think it is disgusting and barbaric and it says something about states that employ it.




Really? So murdering the innocent in the womb is ok, but executing a mass murderer is barbaric? :confused::confused:
 
So wouldn't being anti-death penalty pro abortion, be like equally hypocritical in your eyes, and not in a better way?

Well played. You are right.

I guess in a way i am as hypocritical as pro lifers
 
Heck, if somebody is willing to get an abortion, i have no problem with the tax payers paying for it. I'd like to see population numbers come way down, and currently there's tons of tax dollars spent on every citizen. I'd rather see a fetus aborted then it be forced upon the person who never wanted it. Yeah, use tax dollars. It's a worthwhile endeavor.
 
Really? So murdering the innocent in the womb is ok, but executing a mass murderer is barbaric? :confused::confused:

I do not support murdering innocent anyone. Ideally in a perfect world i'd wish there was no war or need for Abortion but that is not the case

My pro-choice position is based on my belief that women have the right to decide whether to carry their pregnancies or not whereas those facing death are fully conscious people which do give them more rights under the law than something that doesn't exist or wouldn't exist without a womb
 
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