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Great outcome, Clinton got the job done, glad the two women are safe, and we'll deal with the politics later.
Even if it was a good deal for the US and the world it seems highly unlikely that WJC was the one who made the deal.
 
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Again I ask people that think this wasn't handled in the best way we could reasonable hope for,

WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?
I'm still waiting for the fall out from this. Maybe it was handled the best possible way but maybe it would've been better to leave them there. I'd hate to think that the balance of world power was shifted toward a guy like KJI merely for the welfare of two people who got themselves into trouble.
 
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the most important thing is the two women are safely back with their families and unhurt.
How can that possibly be the most important thing when dealing with KJI and nuclear weapons? I'd say the safety of the planet is just a tiny bit more important.
 
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the 2 lady journalists are preciously important

bubba didn't matter at all, he was merely an envelope containing what we can't see but can quite easily surmise

something valuable to kim which the tiny tinhorn could not publicize

hello

the 23 million "citizens" of north korea, each weighing an average of about 80 pounds, are important, too

TRY not to forget about them next time you swoon for an american pol/tv star
 
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Even if it was a good deal for the US and the world it seems highly unlikely that WJC was the one who made the deal.
That's completely fair, but part of it may have been KJI's need to feel important in the world, Clinton would easily satisfy that, either way the result was a net good.
 
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How can that possibly be the most important thing when dealing with KJI and nuclear weapons? I'd say the safety of the planet is just a tiny bit more important.
It's highly unlikely this particular facet of our countries relations affected the defense situation either way though, which is why I made that judgement call in this case. I will say that if they get out of line with security, then we will deal harshly with them and swiftly, at least I hope that would be the case.
 
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Re: U.S. Journalists Pardoned by North Korea Following Visit from Former President Bi

Again I ask people that think this wasn't handled in the best way we could reasonable hope for,

WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

I think we should have left them there. After all they did break the laws of another country. It is not our place to intervene. I agree the punishment was overly harsh but they did admittedly break the law.
 
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I think we should have left them there. After all they did break the laws of another country. It is not our place to intervene. I agree the punishment was overly harsh but they did admittedly break the law.

After gods knows what happened behind close curtains....
 
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the 2 lady journalists are preciously important

bubba didn't matter at all, he was merely an envelope containing what we can't see but can quite easily surmise

something valuable to kim which the tiny tinhorn could not publicize

hello

the 23 million "citizens" of north korea, each weighing an average of about 80 pounds, are important, too

TRY not to forget about them next time you swoon for an american pol/tv star

Just come out and tell us what you think Kim got.
 
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After gods knows what happened behind close curtains....

This was to US officals not North Korean officals.
 
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Just come out and tell us what you think Kim got.

i'm not in a position to know

i know what i believe he got, it's the only thing that makes sense

but if i speculated i'd be torn apart by political foes, i'm not that stupid

and speculation is for gossips

i DO KNOW, however, that kim got SOMETHING

and it was something he VALUED

and it was something it was in HIS interest to keep SECRET

kim usually CROWS, now, doesn't he?

you can put the pieces together, you're very smart

thanks for asking, it's certainly a fair question

cliff
 
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i'm not in a position to know

i know what i believe he got, it's the only thing that makes sense

but if i speculated i'd be torn apart by political foes, i'm not that stupid

and speculation is for gossips

i DO KNOW, however, that kim got SOMETHING

and it was something he VALUED

and it was something it was in HIS interest to keep SECRET

kim usually CROWS, now, doesn't he?

you can put the pieces together, you're very smart

thanks for asking, it's certainly a fair question

cliff

So let me get this straight: you're so afraid of being ridiculed for what you think he got, you're not telling? I think he got a visit from Bill Clinton, which was bribe enough for him.
 
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So let me get this straight: you're so afraid of being ridiculed for what you think he got, you're not telling? I think he got a visit from Bill Clinton, which was bribe enough for him.
Yes but why did he want a visit from Bill Clinton? Just because he likes him? Obviously Kim gained something from this. I honestly don't know what he gained but he must've gained something.
 
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Yes but why did he want a visit from Bill Clinton? Just because he likes him? Obviously Kim gained something from this. I honestly don't know what he gained but he must've gained something.

Close. He believes he got something of value from the visit. It remains to be seen whether he actually did, though I find it highly unlikely he gained anything that is harmful to US interests.
 
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So let me get this straight: you're so afraid of being ridiculed for what you think he got, you're not telling? I think he got a visit from Bill Clinton, which was bribe enough for him.

i'm afraid of nothing (that could conceivably occur in a chatroom)

i don't know what kim got, no one does (except kim and bubba and obama and hillary)

why should i guess?

guessing is for games

an autographed glossy is pretty cheap, i don't believe the tiny tinhorn holds it very dear

i don't really care what you think kim got

why do you care so much what i think?
 
Re: U.S. Journalists Pardoned by North Korea Following Visit from Former President Bi

Close. He believes he got something of value from the visit. It remains to be seen whether he actually did, though I find it highly unlikely he gained anything that is harmful to US interests.

"harmful" might not be the best word

"expensive" could be more accurate
 
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