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There was nothing about morals in that at all. You claimed Americans can't legally upload or download. I explained why that statement is wrong. Americans can upload and download. We can even upload and download IP. We just can't upload and download IP in violation of IP laws. So I can upload content for my family to a server or as backup, I just can't upload content for the entire world without the permission of the IP holder.
I meant downloading copyrighted content. I was just shortening the statement. Everytime I say "download" or "upload" I don't want to have to type out the long form. Everyone knows what I mean. Please stop splitting hairs over this point.
Additionally I showed how its illegal for Canadians to upload and download IP in violation of "fair dealing", though music is currently an exception because of levies and ambiguity in the court ruling. However, software, movies, and art are still protected with laws similiar to that in the US.
Then I respect the Canadian government consulting the Canadian public and making its own laws if necessary. What I don't support is an American company lobbying our government with millions of dollars to change our laws to fit the American system. Your companies can take their lobbying and shove it.
The problem is if I can get something for free instead of paying for it then I'm not going to pay for it.
As I said previously, the corporations would suffer a profit loss under a two-tier system, but they would still make profit. They just don't want to accept the cut.
The system is not going to change for corporate powers. Governments can make all the laws they want and increase punishments, people wil adapt with better programs for hiding their downloading presence, and will continue to trade in the digital world. I'm not worried.
The levy system in Canada attempts to address this but it has several serious flaws.
As I said before, then it's up to owners of IP in Canada to lobby for change, not American mega-corporations,
I'm not a corporation and I think IP should stay as it is. Furthermore, even IF the corporations wanted it for whatever strawman you wish to knock down, the rationale for IP continues to stand..
And I don't care, nor does the majority.
Actually it still is. From what I read you can download whatever the hell is on the net but you can't upload except if it falls under "fair dealing", which if you are uploading to torrents or sharing sites would be illegal. However, I doubt they'd come after you but it still clarified as illegal in Canada.
I was not aware of this, which goes to show you the level of enforcement. Canadians are even more relaxed about downloading. Our government is not going to invest money in enforcement at the behest of American corporations, or at least I'd hope not. If enforcement is needed then it is Canadian companies and IP holders that need to lobby for it. Anything else is undemocratic.
I looked for this and found nothing about sampling or demo and this 24 hour grace period. Got a link?
No I don't... it's what a law professor told me at school a couple of years ago. I have no source.
Assuming this demo and sampling you are doing is even legal in Canada. So far I've found nothing that suggests anyone for whatever reason can violate Canadian copyright law.
The trend of pushing for enforcement comes mostly from the U.S. Your companies are making this campaign global, but I don't see very much crying from companies in Canada, Sweden, or anywhere else that the mega-corporations are trying to undemocratically push for higher enforcement and penalties.
I find it entertaining to watch them chase their tails all over the world, using up millions in litigation, all the while people everywhere continue to share content.
They are dinosaurs and their ways will go extinct. Open source is the future, and so is a two-tier market. The sooner they accept it, the sooner they will stop losing money.