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Iran Begins Trial of Postelection Protesters

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Iran Begins Trial of Postelection Protesters - Iran | Map | News - FOXNews.com

TEHRAN, Iran — Opposition political activists and protesters are in court in Tehran Saturday on charges of rioting and conspiring against the ruling system in the country's first trial following the disputed presidential election, Iran's state media reported.

The trial underlines the government's efforts to bring a close to anti-government demonstrations that have persisted since the disputed June 12 presidential elections.

Hundreds of thousands of Iranians marched in days of street protests after the election, denouncing official results that declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner.

Iran's opposition maintains Ahmadinejad stole the vote from opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi by engaging in massive fraud, but its demonstrations have been ruthlessly suppressed leaving hundreds, possibly more, in prison.

So where is the World on this huh, I know gone on Holiday nothing to see here folks move along.

I'm guessing that ask by the press to make a comment Mr. Obama will sya its an internal thing of Iran and he doesn't want to meddle.
 
I'm guessing that ask by the press to make a comment Mr. Obama will sya its an internal thing of Iran and he doesn't want to meddle

I agree with Obama.
This is a internal thing.
Would we accept it if Iran started preaching to us on how to sentence our citizens?
 
God help them. I fear the government is going to make the worst kind of examples of them. :( :(
 
I agree with Obama.
This is a internal thing.
Would we accept it if Iran started preaching to us on how to sentence our citizens?

Really I'm surprised by this comment come from you Laila. maybe you woulld like ot be part of the firing squad then huh
 
Why is it the world's job to interfere with an Iranian trial? In any case... what kind of trial could these people possibly receive? It is the job of Iranians to uprise and stop this mockery of justice.

People need to stop calling for invasions everytime a foreign nation does a little thing they don't like. The U.S. army aren't your personal goon squad.
 
Why is it the world's job to interfere with an Iranian trial? In any case... what kind of trial could these people possibly receive? It is the job of Iranians to uprise and stop this mockery of justice.

People need to stop calling for invasions everytime a foreign nation does a little thing they don't like. The U.S. army aren't your personal goon squad.

Because 1 the trail's are a farce 2 the Election were Rigged so hence any protesting was the proper thing to do and they should have never been arrest for excersing their Human right to Free Speech.

Next thing your going ot say it was alright for Irasn Security Force to shot and kill protester now right:roll:
 
Really I'm surprised by this comment come from you Laila. maybe you woulld like ot be part of the firing squad then huh

Why surprised from me?

I do not want Iranians or Arabs telling me how to sentence, the laws or run my country. I expect my Government to give them the same distance.
 
Because 1 the trail's are a farce 2 the Election were Rigged so hence any protesting was the proper thing to do and they should have never been arrest for excersing their Human right to Free Speech.

Next thing your going ot say it was alright for Irasn Security Force to shot and kill protester now right:roll:

You don't get it. Regardless if the trials are a farce or not, and regardless if the election was rigged or not, it is not our job to police Iran. There is no international law which says a rigged election means we get to invade. Get that fact through your head first and foremost.

If an American election were rigged, people would take up arms and demand a re-election. There would be a revolution. Iranians need to take the same kind of action against their government. It's their revolution, and our own interference will destroy the legitimacy of their own efforts.

You also forget that it was CIA interference that brought them down this oppressive path in the first place. The last thing Iran needs is more "help" from the West.
 
I agree that it is not any nation's job to interfere in the Iranians domestic affairs, it is obviously the UN's job and they're not doing their job right.
 
I agree that it is not any nation's job to interfere in the Iranians domestic affairs, it is obviously the UN's job and they're not doing their job right.

The same UN which Israel sometimes complains interfers in their domestic issues? ;)

UN is not there to interfer on every country in the world. You forget who makes up UN, other nations. It is by no stretch of the word, neutral.
 
The same UN which Israel sometimes complains interfers in their domestic issues? ;)
It doesn't interfere in Israel's domestic issues, it mostly violates Israel's right to self-defense but let's not hijack the thread shall we?
UN is not there to interfer on every country in the world. You forget who makes up UN, other nations. It is by no stretch of the word, neutral.
Have you studied in history class why the UN was made?
Clue: It was made right after WWII ended.
 
That is not what i said.
I said you seem to forget who makes up the UN. Where does when UN was made come into this?

Other nations make up the United Nations (hence the title) and if UN decides to act, it would be because individual nations wants to interfer
 
If you have truly studied the UN, then you should know that its modern capacity has far exceeded what it was originally meant to do, which was to prevent and monitor conflicts between sovereign powers. In the modern world, it is now trotting the thin line between respecting sovereignty and outright interfering in the domestic affairs of countries. One example is interfering in genocides, and the monitoring of the security of nuclear weapons through inspection programs.

It was never designed to be a supra-international enforcer of things that we think are right according to our cultural values, such as democracy. So saying that Iran's rigged election should defer to a UN ruling is a bogus claim. It is not the UN's jurisdiction and never was. It is the job of Iranians to revolt.

Furthermore, the Security Council veto, combined with the unwillingness of founding nations to stand up for the original founding values of the UN, are the main reasons why the effectiveness of the UN has erroded over time. There are too many agendas at play in that organization, and yes the U.S. and Israel are foremost contenders among the rest.
 
That is not what i said.
I said you seem to forget who makes up the UN. Where does when UN was made come into this?

Other nations make up the United Nations (hence the title) and if UN decides to act, it would be because individual nations wants to interfer
The UN is a body that is made up from the world's nations.
It is an independent body, however, and you can see it as a democratic organization where every person has his voice, and obviously, his agenda.
One could therefore expect the UN to act and interfere in Iran's domestic affairs through resolutions made by the Human rights assembly, something that happens in other places in the world, but not in Iran.
Hence, it is completely legitimate to blame the UN for not interfering in the situation that is currently on-going in Iran, and not moving a finger to prevent the damage done to the rights of the Iranians as a people, as a nation, as individuals.
 
The UN is not there to police every country in the world nor does it have the authority (or power) to say if Iranian elections was wrong or not.
That is for the citizens of Iran to do.
 
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The UN is a body that is made up from the world's nations.
It is an independent body, however, and you can see it as a democratic organization where every person has his voice, and obviously, his agenda.
One could therefore expect the UN to act and interfere in Iran's domestic affairs through resolutions made by the Human rights assembly, something that happens in other places in the world, but not in Iran.
Hence, it is completely legitimate to blame the UN for not interfering in the situation that is currently on-going in Iran, and not moving a finger to prevent the damage done to the rights of the Iranians as a people, as a nation, as individuals.

If that's the way you feel then it is your duty to contact your political representative and make your voice known. The UN doesn't represent you, they do. Tell them that you expect Obama to make a statement as well as use the United States' membership in the UN for action on this matter.

Complaining to us is not going to get you anywhere.

EDIT: Sorry, I just realized you are in Israel. But you get the idea.
 
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EDIT: Sorry, I just realized you are in Israel. But you get the idea.
No I don't.
Should I contact the Iranian politicians?

Anyway, the UN has implied that one of its jobs is to maintain the rights of people all across the world.
I'm just saying that they need to follow their own words.
 
No I don't.
Should I contact the Iranian politicians?

Anyway, the UN has implied that one of its jobs is to maintain the rights of people all across the world.
I'm just saying that they need to follow their own words.

The United Nations was founded after World War to replace the League of Nations and its sole purpose was to stop wars between nations and in many cases provide a platform for dialogue and diplomacy.
 
The United Nations was founded after World War to replace the League of Nations and its sole purpose was to stop wars between nations and in many cases provide a platform for dialogue and diplomacy.
Bzzzzzt, wrong answer.

The United Nations was founded at the end of World War II in the purpose of maintaining peace in the international, social, economic and pretty much nearly every existing field.
This includes; preventing wars, preventing unfair trade, preventing human rights violations, etc.
 
This includes; preventing wars, preventing unfair trade, preventing human rights violations, etc.

If UN spoke on human rights violations, it would be condemning non stop from Israel to UK and US. It simply does not have the power or authority

UN should not get involved in this issue. This is a problem for Iranian citizens
If you or I wish to register our protest, we can contact our representatives
 
UN should not get involved in this issue. This is a problem for Iranian citizens
Well that is your own opinion.
I believe that we live in a time where the world shouldn't let a government that shoots its own people because they are protesting against the election that it rigged exist.
If you or I wish to register our protest, we can contact our representatives
I dunno about it, I'm more of a practical person.
 
Well that is your own opinion.
I believe that we live in a time where the world shouldn't let a government that shoots its own people because they are protesting against the election that it rigged exist.

I dunno about it, I'm more of a practical person.

Ofc its my opinion lol, what else is it supposed to be?

I find it amazing people are getting all into Iran but ignore genocides in this world.
How about China? Darfur? Africa has many human rights abuses, why are the same people clamouring for action in Iran suspiciously quiet on these countries?
 
Ofc its my opinion lol, what else is it supposed to be?

I find it amazing people are getting all into Iran but ignore genocides in this world.
How about China? Darfur? Africa has many human rights abuses, why are the same people clamouring for action in Iran suspiciously quiet on these countries?
I believe I have made my say about each of those conflicts in these forums already, feel free to search.
 
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