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Seven NC men charged as international "jihad" group

apdst said:
So, when looking for Muslim terrorists who do we need to profile?
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That's the point EVERYONE needs to be searched because as we have seen it isn't just "arab" looking folks.
 
apdst said:
Well, to qualify as a terrorist one has to have an agenda, or be a part of a movement that is furthered by a terror campaign. Otherwise, we're just talking about a few lone wolf nut jobs.
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And that isn't just the "Arab" looking folks.
 
Tucker Case said:
To name a few "biggies" Oklahoma city, Atlanta summer games, Alphabet bomber, Unabomber....
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The above are all random terrorist attacks committed by kooks, crazies, and flakes. What does that have to do with the thousands of Islamic terrorist attacks that are occurring all around the world and are always justified via verses of the Koran, ahadith, and the writings of Islamic exegetes (scholars)?

Not to mention that the 9/11 Islamic terrorist attacks trumps them all!
 
apdst said:
You'll never be able to pin all that on Conservatives, bro. :rofl
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Hmmmmm A Republican president increasing big government whom conservatives VOTED FOR.
 
Turbeaux said:
Of course, as usual the Muslims will claim as a defense that Islam is being misunderstood and misinterpreted, and that the people involved are all standup individuals that couldn’t harm a flea much less kafirs.

I urge everyone to study the text, tenants, and history of Islam. While there many different sects of Islam and many divisions within the camp of Islam, the ulema of all 4 major schools of Islamic jurisprudence that governs Islam in totality all unanimously agree in the universality of the obligation to make the world sovereign for Allah via the imposition of Sharia. All 4 major schools of Islamic jurisprudence also agree on the universal obligation for jihad as well.

Now jihad doesn’t just necessarily consist of only terrorism, as there are many different kinds of jihad that Muslims employ and, as a matter of fact, nearly all of them operate below the radar of the public’s scrutiny via stealth, and nearly all of them involve deception in some form. In fact, deception goes hand in hand with Islam as Muhammad famously said, “that war is deceit.”

In any event, it is time for more and more people to open up their eyes and begin realizing what is taking place right under our noses, and not only in the USA but also all over the world. In fact, learning how Muslims deceptively operate in other parts of the world that have entertained Muslim immigration for much longer than we have is an excellent way to learn about Islam and how so very deceptive it is.
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Welcome to DP ...

The ignorance dripping from this post about Islam is enough for me to scratch my own eyes out.

I have a feeling we will be clashing soon enough but enjoy your stay :2wave:
 
apdst said:
Other than being politically correct, what is your common sense and forsight going to accomplish?
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Obviously holding everyone to the same standard would mean that every potential terrorist is given the same degree of scrutiny.

What does excluding non-muslim-looking folks in order to focus only on muslim-looking folks accomplish besides making non-muslim looking terrorists more likely to be successful?

If common sense and taking the best approach that does the most protecting is PC, then I guess I'm being PC.





Please don't put words into my mouth. I'm sure you're smarter than that
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Sarcastically pointing out the absurdity of your arguments is not putting words in your mouth.

I mean, I guess I could have just created an equally asinine hypothetical that has no basis in reality in order to back up a non-existent point in response to you doing this, but unfortunately I have a legitimate point that is supported by evidence and you cannnot cite evidence, so instead you MUST rely on an asinine hypothetical because your argument contains no substance.



How many casualties have the nut jobs produce vs. the Islamists?
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Before 9/11, how many casualties did the Islamists have against the US? Are you giving them top billing because one attack was successful? Prior to that they really didn't cause many fatalities of US civilians at all. Maybe a couple of dozen. One attack changed all that.

Any group is capable of making such an attack. It really wasn't hard.

Over-focussing on one group only makes it easier for another group to pull off something similar.

Instead of doing that, give EVERYONE the same degree of scrutiny.

Over-focussing leads to over-looking.
 
Turbeaux said:
In any event, it is time for more and more people to open up their eyes and begin realizing what is taking place right under our noses, and not only in the USA but also all over the world. In fact, learning how Muslims deceptively operate in other parts of the world that have entertained Muslim immigration for much longer than we have is an excellent way to learn about Islam and how so very deceptive it is.
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It's comments like this that are remnants of how the Nazis felt about the jews. Full of hate, generalizations, and false sterotypes.
 
Turbeaux said:
The above are all random terrorist attacks committed by kooks, crazies, and flakes.
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So? Does that make their bombs less effective? does that make their killing less horrible?



Not to mention that the 9/11 Islamic terrorist attacks trumps them all!
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And if we focus all our efforts on stopping 9/11, which ain't EVER happening again, something worse will occur.
 
Tucker Case said:
Common sense = not all terrorists are muslim
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Just out of curiosity, can you point to any single incidence of violence, attack, are war against non-Muslims or Muslims alike anywhere in the world and during any period of time for that matter when the Muslims involved didn't resort to the tactics of terrorism in emulation of their prophet, Muhammad, the uswa hasana, the perfect model and excellent example for emulation, and instead where the Muslims involved abided by the rules of engagement as set forth in the Geneva Conventions?
 
Turbeaux said:
Just out of curiosity, can you point to any single incidence of violence, attack, are war against non-Muslims or Muslims alike anywhere in the world and during any period of time for that matter when the Muslims involved didn't resort to the tactics of terrorism in emulation of their prophet, Muhammad, the uswa hasana, the perfect model and excellent example for emulation, and instead where the Muslims involved abided by the rules of engagement as set forth in the Geneva Conventions?
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There are approx 1.5 BILLION of Muslims out there. Can you show how the MAJORITY of those support terrorist acts?
 
Turbeaux said:
Just out of curiosity, can you point to any single incidence of violence, attack, are war against non-Muslims or Muslims alike anywhere in the world and during any period of time for that matter when the Muslims involved didn't resort to the tactics of terrorism in emulation of their prophet, Muhammad, the uswa hasana, the perfect model and excellent example for emulation, and instead where the Muslims involved abided by the rules of engagement as set forth in the Geneva Conventions?
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The above makes no sense. Is there any chance you could rephrase the question again with a decent sentence structure and without extraneous verbs, such as "are" instead of "or"?
 
TheNextEra said:
Hmmmmm A Republican president increasing big government whom conservatives VOTED FOR.
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Not that it has **** to do with ****, but who did you vote for?
 
apdst said:
Even granny?
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Given that sometimes elderly people are targeted for scams like a child is being a suicide bomber would be, you bet.

Are you saying there NO CHANCE a terrorist would plant a bomb on granny to go off?
 
apdst said:
Not that it has **** to do with ****, but who did you vote for?
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I voted for Obama, and so far am disappointed in it so far. However, the same can't be said about you and your overall support for Bush.
 
TheNextEra said:
Given that sometimes elderly people are targeted for scams like a child is being a suicide bomber would be, you bet.

Are you saying there NO CHANCE a terrorist would plant a bomb on granny to go off?
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How often has that scenario taken place? It's common sense to go after the most probably scenarios, not the least probable. It's called, "risk assessment".
 
TheNextEra said:
I voted for Obama, and so far am disappointed in it so far. However, the same can't be said about you and your overall support for Bush.
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My overall support for Bush? I agreed with most things that Bush did, but he didn't have my overall support. That's an erroneous statement that you either have to support, or take back.
 
apdst said:
How often has that scenario taken place? It's common sense to go after the most probably scenarios, not the least probable. It's called, "risk assessment".
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Much like a "white looking guy" wasn't a scenario during 9/11, so is the elderly now, does that mean it can't happen?

So will it take an elderly person that has a bomb planted to them unknowingly before you will want to stop and check someone?
 
Laila said:
The ignorance dripping from this post about Islam is enough for me to scratch my own eyes out.
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Uhm...since you seem in a round about way to be insinuating that I'm either ignorant of Islam or otherwise intentionally being disrespectful and deceitful and thus deliberately misrepresenting Islam, could you please do me a favor and point out exactly what contained in my post is not truthful?

Incidentally, please don’t scratch your eyes out because of me.
 
apdst said:
My overall support for Bush? I agreed with most things that Bush did, but he didn't have my overall support. That's an erroneous statement that you either have to support, or take back.
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Sure you did, you defended the ****er many times. The war on terror, Homeland Security, etc.

Or are you embarrassed now to show support for your ex-Dear Leader?

Wait are you actually going to tell us you didn't support the War on terror, making homeland security now?
 
Turbeaux said:
Just out of curiosity, can you point to any single incidence of violence, attack, are war against non-Muslims or Muslims alike anywhere in the world and during any period of time for that matter when the Muslims involved didn't resort to the tactics of terrorism in emulation of their prophet, Muhammad, the uswa hasana, the perfect model and excellent example for emulation, and instead where the Muslims involved abided by the rules of engagement as set forth in the Geneva Conventions?
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What is this a joke?

"Muslims" who blow **** up use bombs. No bombs when Prophet Mohammed existed, nor guns
Suicide is forbidden, so hell no one would dare try and off themselves infront of the Prophet (MPBUH)

That is a one way ticket to hell. Not refundable.
 
Turbeaux said:
Uhm...since you seem in a round about way to be insinuating that I'm either ignorant of Islam or otherwise intentionally being disrespectful and deceitful and thus deliberately misrepresenting Islam, could you please do me a favor and point out exactly what contained in my post is not truthful?

Incidentally, please don’t scratch your eyes out because of me.
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Laila said:
What is this a joke?

"Muslims" who blow **** up use bombs. No bombs when Prophet Mohammed existed, nor guns
Suicide is forbidden, so hell no one would dare try and off themselves infront of the Prophet (MPBUH)

That is a one way ticket to hell. Not refundable.
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I guess she just did. :lol:
 
TheNextEra said:
Much like a "white looking guy" wasn't a scenario during 9/11, so is the elderly now, does that mean it can't happen?

So will it take an elderly person that has a bomb planted to them unknowingly before you will want to stop and check someone?
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Sure it can happen, but do we want to spend our time serching 90 y/o maw-maws and 12 y/o little girls from Nebraska as suspected terrorists?

Or, do you mean that we need to be doing stip and cavity searches 87 y/o Arab women?
 
Laila said:
"Muslims" who blow **** up use bombs. No bombs when Prophet Mohammed existed, nor guns
Suicide is forbidden, so hell no one would dare try and off themselves infront of the Prophet (MPBUH)
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There were bombs when Mohammed was alive.
 
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