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Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

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My Way News - Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

Senate Democratic leaders on Thursday abandoned plans for a vote on health care before Congress' August recess, dealing a blow to President Barack Obama's ambitious timetable to revamp the nation's $2.4 trillion system of medical care.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., delivered the official pronouncement, saying, "It's better to have a product based on quality and thoughtfulness rather than try to jam something through."
Dear Leader defeated. Now folks have a chance to read and digest the healthcare horror show he hoped to inflict on America.

His little come-to-Jesus press conference last night didn't win the battle of hearts and minds--thank God!
 
Oh god, guys, this is bad. For weeks I've been hearing how absolutely urgent and critical is is to get this passed before the break. Now that it won't, I can only imagine the horror that awaits us.
 
Oh god, guys, this is bad. For weeks I've been hearing how absolutely urgent and critical is is to get this passed before the break. Now that it won't, I can only imagine the horror that awaits us.
Yes, folks it means we will be subjected to an entire summer of.....(wait for it)...

THE STATUS QUO

(Cue Marlon Brando..."the horror....the horror")
 
Hopefully that is enough time for voters to get their elected officials to kill it for good .
 
Thank the stars! Now there is time to figure out the details and inform people of exactly what this bill will do. This buys time to get people more involved.
 
At least we now have some time to effectively kill it.

And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.
 
And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.
If you honestly believe that you are nothing short of ignorant. Sorry, but that is the truth. They have no intention of contributing to a socialist healthcare system.
 
And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.
You mean that's your problem. Fact of the matter is, defeating Dear Leader's health care horror show is a vital part of health care reform. The first and most crucial part of reforming anything is to stop going down the wrong roads.

HR3200 is the Mother Of All Wrong Roads. There can be no reform until this monstrosity is torn apart and flushed down the sewer.
 
My Way News - Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall


Dear Leader defeated. Now folks have a chance to read and digest the healthcare horror show he hoped to inflict on America.

His little come-to-Jesus press conference last night didn't win the battle of hearts and minds--thank God!

Can we please get a new home-team?

Our Benevolent Dictator is a good puppet, and I am glad the United States' monarchy is finally seeing a puppet who can pull strings that can be easily replaced come the next Dictator.. makes the change of power easier.

However, Congress is slightly more tricky. Those baffling idiots are under the radar until they touch little boys, or solicit oral destruction.
 
And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.

Who says "healthcare reform" has to be in the form of socialized medicine? Why not do other things to actually make health care cheaper?
 
You mean that's your problem. Fact of the matter is, defeating Dear Leader's health care horror show is a vital part of health care reform. The first and most crucial part of reforming anything is to stop going down the wrong roads.

HR3200 is the Mother Of All Wrong Roads. There can be no reform until this monstrosity is torn apart and flushed down the sewer.
Let Will explain this to you...

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And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.

Pardon me if I have a problem with the government handling my health issues. I dont want the government dictating to me how I should live.
 
And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.

They are also doing it to line their pockets with my lobbying money and bribes from the Health Care industry. OH YEAH! The corporations run our government and the right wingers with no clue champion it. Amazing.
 
You mean a picture of bill that doesn't exist yet?! Yeah for you!

Perhaps it's a picture of how the R's see the current form of the bill?

It may not exist as a bill yet, but assuredly, it does exist as a planned bill.

Otherwise, what have they been doing for the last bit in congress?
 
I dont want the government dictating to me how I should live.

REALLY? You want me to show you the ways the government already tells us how to live that I think you would agree with? I think you actually DO want the government telling people how they should live, you just don't agree with certain parts of it.
 
Perhaps it's a picture of how the R's see the current form of the bill?

It may not exist as a bill yet, but assuredly, it does exist as a planned bill.

Otherwise, what have they been doing for the last bit in congress?
This is ridiculous.

There is a bill. Not a "planned" bill, not a "contemplated" bill, not a "proposed" bill, but a bill.

The bill is HR3200:

111th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 3200
To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
July 14, 2009

Mr. DINGELL (for himself, Mr. RANGEL, Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. STARK, Mr. PALLONE, and Mr. ANDREWS) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means, Education and Labor, Oversight and Government Reform, and the Budget, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
 
I don't think Obama has to worry much about his opponents rallying the public against him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/health/policy/21poll.html

The Republicans are in short supply of political capital of any kind and after Bush people are skeptical of their normal campaign strategies, whether for runs at political office or for public support on political issues.
 
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I don't think Obama has to worry much about his opponents rallying the public against him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/health/policy/21poll.html

The Republicans are in short supply of political capital of any kind and after Bush people are skeptical of their normal campaign strategies, whether for runs at political office or for public support on political issues.
Yeah, that was a month ago....before Henry Taxman started mucking around with taxing health benefits, taking away folks' insurance, rationing healthcare, and doing other fun uber-statist things.

Besides, you haven't been paying attention (again). The Republicans are not the ones slowing the process down. It's all the Blue Dogs within Dear Leader's own party who refuse to join him in political suicide that are gumming up the works.

The Blue Dogs flunk obedience school | Salon News

As the White House tries to stir itself into action to keep Obama's chief domestic policy priority from going off the rails, the administration is finding that its biggest problem isn't Republicans. Sure, the GOP opposes the healthcare reform plans moving through Congress, but what else is new? The GOP has opposed everything Obama's tried to do in his first six months in office. The complaints the White House is trying to accommodate now are coming from conservative and moderate Democrats.

In the House, a group of Blue Dogs have basically held legislation hostage, leveraging their numbers on the one committee in that chamber that has yet to pass a bill, the Energy and Commerce panel. In the Senate, Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus and a handful of moderate Democrats are engaged in painstaking, secretive talks with moderate Republicans in an effort to draft a proposal that might win bipartisan support. None of the senators involved in the talks would discuss them with reporters this afternoon, but they insisted they were doing the right thing. "What we're doing in this group is working very methodically," said Sen. Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat who's pushing for "co-ops" instead of a government-run public health insurance option in the reform. "We're not impatient, we're trying to get this job done in the right way so it can stand review and stand scrutiny."
Note the date: July 22, 2009. That's the state of healthcare "reform" as of yesterday.

Your news is old news, and no longer accurate news.
 
Perhaps it's a picture of how the R's see the current form of the bill?

It may not exist as a bill yet, but assuredly, it does exist as a planned bill.

Otherwise, what have they been doing for the last bit in congress?

There are currently four divergent plans on the table with multiple possibilities for amendments. How can they even pretend to put something like this forward. It's a scam to scare people away from supporting it. All of us know it but only some will admit it.
 
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This bill isn't before Congress?

Is that your final answer? You don't want to use one of your lifelines?

It is not a final bill. IF the GOP wants to be honest, they would title their little flow chart - "possibilities for a health care plan" or "this is what we think it might end up like." Give me a break. They are selling it as truth and you are defending that very lie.
 
There are currently four divergent plans on the table with multiple possibilities for amendments. How can they even pretend to put something like this forward. It's a scam to scare people away from supporting it. All of us know it but only some will admit it.
There is one bill--HR3200.

There is only one bill--HR3200.

The one bill--HR3200--is being marked up by different committees. It is still just one bill.

The chart accurately represents the one bill as it is today. It is the reality that would become law if the vote were taken today and the one bill--HR3200--passed the Congress.

Reality is only a scare tactic only when pointed out to lunatic liberals.
 
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