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Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

Gibberish said:
Personally I think the conservatives play up the hype of "god's gift" more then Democrats. I don't see those that support Obama referring to him in any messianic way and simply just agree with policies. Since when has agreeing with a political leaders policies equate to worship?
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Well, I'm definitely not referring to the average Obama supporter. I've seen people who have no clue about his policies and just blindly support him because he's a Democrat or because he's not Bush. I think the whole "messiah" idea is ridiculously overblown and just a cheap jab. If a majority of Obama supporters really viewed him as a messianic figure these poll numbers wouldn't be reflecting that the public is losing trust in him.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I'm positive that bad times are on the horizon and maybe it will be a good lesson for us. I don't think that America is doomed, though. We are far stronger than I think we give ourselves credit for.
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We survived 8 years of George Bush. If that isn't proof what is?
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I'm positive that bad times are on the horizon and maybe it will be a good lesson for us. I don't think that America is doomed, though. We are far stronger than I think we give ourselves credit for.
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Agreed, except for one very important point. If Obama succeeds in government-sponsored healthcare, it will be impossible to undo for the next conservative administration.

How can private insurance companies that operate on a profit compete with a government plan that can print money whenever it needs it and doesn't need to show a profit.

It can't. Then, once socialized healthcare is in, how do you possibly undo it? You can't.

Imagine the government decides if your 90-year-old mother is "worth" the expense of that bypass surgery she needs. Will the (liberal) government be willing to pay for childbirth expenses for a Downs Syndrome baby, or will they only be willing to pay for the abortion?

It's already happening in other countries, including north of the border. I don't want to see it happening here.
 
Erod said:
Agreed, except for one very important point. If Obama succeeds in government-sponsored healthcare, it will be impossible to undo for the next conservative administration.

How can private insurance companies that operate on a profit compete with a government plan that can print money whenever it needs it and doesn't need to show a profit.
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And maybe that's good. People who so badly want socialized healthcare will find out the reality of it. Maybe they won't be so happy with that reality.

It can't. Then, once socialized healthcare is in, how do you possibly undo it? You can't.
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If it can be implemented it can certainly be undone. Though, it will definitely take a long time to undo.

Imagine the government decides if your 90-year-old mother is "worth" the expense of that bypass surgery she needs. Will the (liberal) government be willing to pay for childbirth expenses for a Downs Syndrome baby, or will they only be willing to pay for the abortion?
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I understand that giving the government that much control terrifies people, but I think that the uprising that would result in the government making such decisions would be so huge. I could be completely wrong, but I don't see them ever making decisions like that. I'm just trying to remain optimistic, which definitely could come back to bite me in the ass later on.

It's already happening in other countries, including north of the border. I don't want to see it happening here.
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I completely understand that.
 
Gibberish said:
Personally I think the conservatives play up the hype of "god's gift" more then Democrats. I don't see those that support Obama referring to him in any messianic way and simply just agree with policies. Since when has agreeing with a political leaders policies equate to worship?
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Nah, it never happens from the left. ;)


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And we have posters here defending the admin for paying more than retail for ham. :lol:
 
tlmorg02 said:
It's not the being against, but the hope that the President will fail. If he fails, then one is essentially hoping for bad times in America.
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Wrong, we're hoping for bad times for Obama.
 
American said:
Wrong, we're hoping for bad times for Obama.
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So you hope that he is unsuccessful in saving the economy, improving relations abroad, finding new sources of energy, and making healthcare cheaper?
 
tlmorg02 said:
It's not the being against, but the hope that the President will fail. If he fails, then one is essentially hoping for bad times in America.
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This is utter bull****... sorry. :lol:


Hoping for obama to fail in socializing this great nation is hoping to end the bad and catastrophic times ahead if Obama succeeds.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
This is utter bull****... sorry. :lol:


Hoping for obama to fail in socializing this great nation is hoping to end the bad and catastrophic times ahead if Obama succeeds.
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He is not socializing anything, that is the bull**** my friend.:lol: He is using socialist tools to get back to a capitalist end, as many have done.
 
tlmorg02 said:
He is not socializing anything, that is the bull**** my friend.:lol: He is using socialist tools to get back to a capitalist end, as many have done.
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HE's not raping us, he's just doing one sided consent forced love..... :shock::doh:lol::roll:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
:lol: Most do not support Obama's forced love UHC plan. ;)
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And you, my friend, know as well as I, that it will not look the same by the time it goes through the process. He is trying to force it through, but that will not happen. People are far too happy giving insurance companies money for nothing, to support his bill and for Congress to pass it as is.
 
tlmorg02 said:
And you, my friend, know as well as I, that it will not look the same by the time it goes through the process. He is trying to force it through, but that will not happen. People are far too happy giving insurance companies money for nothing, to support his bill and for Congress to pass it as is.
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Did you know there is coverage for illegal aliens in there? ILLEGAL ALIENS!..... Hell we can't afford it without them, how are we with them? :shock:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Did you know there is coverage for illegal aliens in there? ILLEGAL ALIENS!..... Hell we can't afford it without them, how are we with them? :shock:
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Yes, and it is a part that needs to be cut-out. If our system works as it should, that and a lot more will be trimmed from the program.
 
When you take away public options, that is socialism. We even have communist who are saying that Obama is more left than them. I believe that was Chavez of Venezuela. There are some things the government had no business in getting involved in, the free market would be the first one that comes to my mind.
 
tlmorg02 said:
It's not the being against, but the hope that the President will fail. If he fails, then one is essentially hoping for bad times in America.
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This is only true if the only way to avoid "bad times" in America is for The Obama to succeed in what He wants to do.

Can you illustrate that necessary relationship?
 
What has Obama done to be rated so badly thus far, then? I'm geuinly curious how you can rate ANY president, Republican or Democrat, when he hasn't even finished a quarter of his term. Most of the legislation enacted won't be shown as effective or ineffective for many months yet.
 
Goobieman said:
This is only true if the only way to avoid "bad times" in America is for The Obama to succeed in what He wants to do.

Can you illustrate that necessary relationship?
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Sure. Bush and Obama have both sank billions into the banking system, automotive industry, and other forms of stimulus. If these companies fail to become profitable and repay the government, then tax payers will be responsible for paying down the extreme deficit, a massive amount of jobs will be added to the already high numbers, and our economic system may very well collapse.

If healthcare is not overhauled, and by this I do not mean socialized. Then the record numbers of uninsured, which are growing and would grow greater if his economic attempts fail, would have limited to no access to healthcare. People would use the ER as a doctor visit, because ER treatment cannot be refused, thus healtcare would increase ten fold.

Do I need to continue?
 
tlmorg02 said:
Do I need to continue?
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Yes... as nothing you have posted shows that the ONLY way for the US to NOT fail is for The Obama's plans to succeed.
 
Goobieman said:
Yes... as nothing you have posted shows that the ONLY way for the US to NOT fail is for The Obama's plans to succeed.
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Do you care to elaborate why you feel such? Your simple assertion with no rebuttal does not suffice.
 
Ok there may have been problems with our Health Care system before, Medicaid being the biggest example in my opinion. However it is not nearly as bad as what is being said, this 56 million number is a fabrication that includes people who don't even have a interest in having Medical Insurance or are unqualified such as children and illegals.
 
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