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Palin says she's not leaving politics

If Palin is planning a Presidential run, her resignation will definitely come back to haunt her. I don't think it was a good move on her part, but it is still her decision. As per usual, the typical "I hate Palin" crowd is here to lob personal insults at her all the while claiming that they don't feel threatened by her. If you don't feel threatened, you wouldn't feel the need to resort to this. Is it really so hard to see past your partisan blinders and have even a sliver of respect for someone that you don't agree with politically? I don't agree with her politically, but I still think that it was a very bold move. If she manages to go against all odds and become a worthy candidate regardless of all of this stuff I will be thoroughly impressed and many of the people who have resorted to personal attacks and insults will be eating their own words.
 
So what she becomes is more important than the failure and quitter that she has been?

Do you see her as the only hope the Republican party has for the future?

A. Of course. Don't you agree?

B. Hell no. Why on earth would I think that?
 
If Palin is planning a Presidential run, her resignation will definitely come back to haunt her. I don't think it was a good move on her part, but it is still her decision. As per usual, the typical "I hate Palin" crowd is here to lob personal insults at her all the while claiming that they don't feel threatened by her. If you don't feel threatened, you wouldn't feel the need to resort to this. Is it really so hard to see past your partisan blinders and have even a sliver of respect for someone that you don't agree with politically? I don't agree with her politically, but I still think that it was a very bold move. If she manages to go against all odds and become a worthy candidate regardless of all of this stuff I will be thoroughly impressed and many of the people who have resorted to personal attacks and insults will be eating their own words.
The contention I have with this is is that it paints Palin as an innocent by-stander in all of this. It seems as though we have forgotten that she was Sen. McCain's attack-dog for a few months; declaring certain areas of the country as 'pro-American' (as opposed to the rest of the country?). She's gotten in her licks as well. Furthermore, I can speak only for myself when I say, 'hatred' is too strong a word here. Hate her? No, absolutely not. I treat her as I would any other unintelligent politician, I greet her with bemused opposition. She's great for cheap laughs, and I still don't believe that the GOP is foolish enough to run with her in 2012.

Aside: Re: Her stupidity...We're not just talking about gaffes here. This woman simply does not know things. Here she couldn't name a single SCOTUS case she disagrees with beyond Roe v. Wade. Here she speaks of the mythical 'Department of Law'. The list goes on and on (speaking of the VP's ability to make policy in the Senate, not being able to name a newspaper she reads regularly, etc. etc.). Simply put, she just doesn't have the brain-power to run this country.

-NC
 
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The Liberals hope Palin's credibility is totally shot.

Oh I see, Palin screws up and it is all the fault of the Libs, right?

That doesn't explain why a lot of Conservatives also believe she is a joke, and expressed their ridicule against Palin both before and after the election.

The Conservative Case Against Sarah Palin

Doubts about Palin grow, even among Conservatives
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Some on the right are joining a chorus of criticism over Sarah Palin

Conservatives who don't think much of Palin include Matthew Dowd (a former Bush strategist), William Kristol (noted Neocon who said McCain should fire his campaign for malpractice, in their bringing Palin on board), Christopher Buckley (son of William F. Buckley), Kathleen Parker (columnist for the Neconservative magazine National Review), David Brooks (noted Conservative, who called Palin a fatal cancer to the Republican party), David Frum (noted Conservative, who called the pick of Palin "irresponsible"), and there are many other Conservatives who believe Palin is not fit to hold office.

But to you, they are all just Libs, right? Sheesh. Your "Only Libs criticize Palin" dog don't hunt no more. Try a real argument with a little substance next time you post.
 
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If Palin is planning a Presidential run, her resignation will definitely come back to haunt her. I don't think it was a good move on her part, but it is still her decision. As per usual, the typical "I hate Palin" crowd is here to lob personal insults at her all the while claiming that they don't feel threatened by her. If you don't feel threatened, you wouldn't feel the need to resort to this. Is it really so hard to see past your partisan blinders and have even a sliver of respect for someone that you don't agree with politically? I don't agree with her politically, but I still think that it was a very bold move. If she manages to go against all odds and become a worthy candidate regardless of all of this stuff I will be thoroughly impressed and many of the people who have resorted to personal attacks and insults will be eating their own words.

Maybe used to taunt her. I don't think it will haunt her.

It may even be a significant positive if the nation turns "anti-government". She's set up to take advantage of that.

Besides she could be running 2016 or never. I don't think she will run for an office to merely use it to cash a paycheck while she runs for another office like O someone..one of her reasons for "quitting" was not to do just that afterall.


2012 Hillary is going to run.
 
The contention I have with this is is that it paints Palin as an innocent by-stander in all of this. It seems as though we have forgotten that she was Sen. McCain's attack-dog for a few months; declaring certain areas of the country as 'pro-American' (as opposed to the rest of the country?). She's gotten in her licks as well. Furthermore, I can speak only for myself when I say, 'hatred' is too strong a word here. Hate her? No, absolutely not. I treat her as I would any other unintelligent politician, I greet her with bemused opposition. She's great for cheap laughs, and I still don't believe that the GOP is foolish enough to run with her in 2012.

Aside: Re: Her stupidity...We're not just talking about gaffes here. This woman simply does not know things. Here she couldn't name a single SCOTUS case she disagrees with beyond Roe v. Wade. Here she speaks of the mythical 'Department of Law'. The list goes on and on (speaking of the VP's ability to make policy in the Senate, not being able to name a newspaper she reads regularly, etc. etc.). Simply put, she just doesn't have the brain-power to run this country.

-NC



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Ron Paul/Sarah Palin 2012
Sarah Palin/Ron Paul 2012
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No I don't see that nation "Palling around with a Idiot" ever.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here.

However, on the chance that you do NOT agree with my first response, here is my reasoning:

Do you, or do you not, agree that someone can better themselves?

If you agree, does this not mean that what someone becomes is more important than their past?

Thus my response.

This is, of course, not to say that someone's past ever ceases to be a factor.
 
Palin would be crushed in a national election. She, unlike Barack Obama, doesn't possess the ability to obsfucate her lack of experience and expertise with rhetorical brilliance. That, and the media loves Barack Obama. Palin would be scrutinized with an intensity never before witnessed in politics and Obama would, once again, be given a free ride to the White House. The GOP shouldn't hitch their 2012 wagon to Palin.
 
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here.

However, on the chance that you do NOT agree with my first response, here is my reasoning:

Do you, or do you not, agree that someone can better themselves?

If you agree, does this not mean that what someone becomes is more important than their past?

Thus my response.

This is, of course, not to say that someone's past ever ceases to be a factor.

Yes I do believe that a person through experience and education can better themselves...perhaps Palin will eventually learn to be humble and honest about her motivations and actually regain the trust of the People of Alaska that she just dissed..

For diehards to continue to imply that she is at this point credible enough to hold any national office what so ever is just plain insulting...infact she has been nothing but insulting since McCain led her out at the Rep. Nat. Funeral.
 
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Palin would be crushed in a national election. She, unlike Barack Obama, doesn't possess the ability to obsfucate her lack of experience and expertise with rhetorical brilliance. That, and the media loves Barack Obama. Palin would be scrutinized with an intensity never before witnessed in politics and Obama would, once again, be given a free ride to the White House. The GOP shouldn't hitch their 2012 wagon to Palin.

President Obama was not given a free ride to anywhere...

Thank Bush and Cheney for the failures of your party that the nation found disgusting. Palin and McCain just continued to feed that disgust.
 
Yes I do believe that a person through experience and education can better themselves...perhaps Palin will eventually learn to be humble and honest about her motivations and actually regain the trust of the People of Alaska that she just dissed.

Excellent.

For diehards to continue to imply that she is at this point credible enough to hold any national office what so ever is just plain insulting...infact she has been nothing but insulting since McCain led her out at the Rep. Nat. Funeral.

Depends on how you spin what she has done.

Of course, the same can be said about any public figure.
 
Excellent.



Depends on how you spin what she has done.

Of course, the same can be said about any public figure.

What are Palin's experiences thus far?

A failed attempt at being VP.

1/2 term as Gov. quitting.

She has a long way to crawl up.
 
Apparently you were not paying attention..where do you live Alaska.

Do they get real news up there?

Oh, I've been paying attention. We've been told, incessantly, that we're racists for criticizing PBO. Also, the media gave him more slack than any other presidential candidate in the history of the country.
 
Oh, I've been paying attention. We've been told, incessantly, that we're racists for criticizing PBO. Also, the media gave him more slack than any other presidential candidate in the history of the country.

I'm not accusing you of anything, but are you claiming there was no racism involved in the campaign?

Being critical is one thing..

The media was up bush's ass from 9/11/01 too the point it became apparent he screwed up the whole show. Which didn't take long but who's fault was that?
 
President Obama was not given a free ride to anywhere...

Thank Bush and Cheney for the failures of your party that the nation found disgusting. Palin and McCain just continued to feed that disgust.

I'm not a Republican. Allegiance to political parties is a form of intellectual bankruptcy.
 
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Good for her!
Love her or Hate her she has the reins now.

One of the only real faces in US politics that people can believe..hopefully even if she isn't personally propelled to President or whatnot..she will help set a tone that will change US politics from the hate based politics of Obama to the politics of 30 years ago .

PROMISES, PROMISES...

This is the best summery of Palin ever:

In television interviews [Sarah Palin] was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. She couldn't say what she read because she didn't read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn't thoughtful enough to know she wasn't thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. "I'm not wired that way," "I'm not a quitter," "I'm standing up for our values." I'm, I'm, I'm.

In another age it might not have been terrible, but here and now it was actually rather horrifying.

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I'm not a Republican. Allegiance to political parties is a form of intellectual bankruptcy.

I never stated you are. I agree allegiance to political parties is not a good Idea but having a allegiance to the ideological values and moral compass that one represents is what we do when we elect people in this country.
 
*sigh*

I still see the PDS is strong with the forum after a couple days away. Not surprising that we have a thread that could have been interesting already ****ted up with "Igloo girl" and various other drivel only conspicuous in how asinine it is.

As for Palin leaving politics, I don't really care either way. I don't think she is a viable candidate for 2012 but I can certainly see her making a strong run in 2016 if a republican hasn't already stepped in to clean up Obama's mess.
 
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