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Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran'

Can't you see the 'busy' sign above the country?

Lol
That is the god honest truth as well. Israel does have a nack of making enemies with nuts in ME.
 
What about Israel?
Like i'd go to war for the benefit of another country. Are you nuts?
Armies are there to protect THEIR country, not someone elses.

We now sacrifice our soldiers for Israel's security? Thats nice, how many soldiers have they offered for Iraq and Aghanistan for the past 5 years again??

No Laila, we prevented Israel from defending themselves and starting a regional war that would have eclipsed the violent spectre of the Iraq War we just fought.

If Israel had defended herself we'd have easily had an Arab/Israeli war among many nations.

We prevented that.
 
No Laila, we prevented Israel from defending themselves and starting a regional war that would have eclipsed the violent spectre of the Iraq War we just fought.

If Israel had defended herself we'd have easily had an Arab/Israeli war among many nations.

We prevented that.

Israel attacking Iraq would have set off a war now?

Israel has had wars with Lebanon ... Palestine .... and Egypt ... And Saudi Arabia ... Lets not forget proxy wars against Hamas and Hezbollah/Iran and Syria ...

No ME killing itself and setting itself alight in a regional war

Rather Israel and Arabs sacrificing itself than our soldiers sacrificing themselves on their behalf.
 
Israel has had wars with Lebanon ... Palestine .... and Egypt ... And Saudi Arabia ...
Yeah we showed Saudi Arabia what it means to mess with Israel.
Now just remind me when was that because I don't remember such a thing. :shock:
 
Yeah we showed Saudi Arabia what it means to mess with Israel.
Now just remind me when was that because I don't remember such a thing. :shock:

Didn't Saudi Arabia contribute troops to the 6 day war?

If they didn't, my bad.
 
Israel attacking Iraq would have set off a war now?

Israel has had wars with Lebanon ... Palestine .... and Egypt ... And Saudi Arabia ... Lets not forget proxy wars against Hamas and Hezbollah/Iran and Syria ...

No ME killing itself and setting itself alight in a regional war

Rather Israel and Arabs sacrificing itself than our soldiers sacrificing themselves on their behalf.

In each case you mention Israel was attacked first. If Israel had attacked Iraq without (apparent) cause multiple Arab nations would have been called upon to assist their brethren.

And in several of the cases you cite multiple nations DID attack Israel simultaneously.

We prevented that by taking out Saddam. And I remind you he had the option of fleeing to a neutral country with his family, mistresses and loot and avoiding war.
 
Didn't Saudi Arabia contribute troops to the 6 day war?

If they didn't, my bad.
Yeah but so did Iraq, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria.
That doesn't count as "having a war with Saudi Arabia".
 
In each case you mention Israel was attacked first. If Israel had attacked Iraq without (apparent) cause multiple Arab nations would have been called upon to assist their brethren.

And in several of the cases you cite multiple nations DID attack Israel simultaneously.

We prevented that by taking out Saddam. And I remind you he had the option of fleeing to a neutral country with his family, mistresses and loot and avoiding war.

You said wars and it would set off a regional war.

No they wouldn't! :rofl
Arabs or Muslims protecting their own LOL

If we did have a ummah, Israel would have been attacked 100 times over the last 60 years by every Muslim country in the world but they haven't and do you know why? Because we do not protect our own anymore.

The only thing that would set off a regional war against Israel is if Israel is suicidal enough to destroy Mecca or Medina .... or maybe Al Asqa but to a lesser extent.

We also had the option of not attacking and invading without a actual strategy.
 
Yeah but so did Iraq, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria.
That doesn't count as "having a war with Saudi Arabia".

True, i stand corrected.
 
You said wars and it would set off a regional war.

No they wouldn't! :rofl
Arabs or Muslims protecting their own LOL

If we did have a ummah, Israel would have been attacked 100 times over the last 60 years by every Muslim country in the world but they haven't and do you know why? Because we do not protect our own anymore.

The only thing that would set off a regional war against Israel is if Israel is suicidal enough to destroy Mecca or Medina .... or maybe Al Asqa but to a lesser extent.

We also had the option of not attacking and invading without a actual strategy.

As much as the nations of the M.E. follow your agenda, there are too many unknown variable that could have caused chaos had Israel attacked Iraq without apparent cause.

The strategy was regime change.
 
The strategy was regime change.

Not helping Iraqis save itself from death.
Not to remove a evil dictator from power.
Not for justice for the thousands that died in the genocide
Not to stabilize the regime or deal with terrorism.
Not to bring Democracy and let the Iraqis choose for themselves what they want.

Nope, it was for UK and US to get our own back and shove our way of life down their throats. Nice to know you acknowledge it.
 
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Not helping Iraqis save itself from death.
Not to remove a evil dictator from power.
Not for justice for the thousands that died in the genocide
Not to stabilize the regime or deal with terrorism.
Not to bring Democracy and let the Iraqis choose for themselves what they want.

Nope, it was for UK and US to get our own back and shove our way of life down their throats. Nice to know you acknowledge it.

There were many reasons for the invasion but the bottom line was regime change based on a desire to achieve many of these goals.
 
Saddam: 'I Lied About WMD In Fear Of Iran' - Yahoo! News UK

Just shows that this war could have been avoided, if only the UN was given a few more months by the US, Saddam would have been found weak and we could have used his fear of the Iranians to press him into more democratic policies in exchange for "a security agreement", meanwhile focusing on the real problem - Iran.
Why don't you shutup about that? You know damn well he wasn't cooperating and was calling ahead to all the inspection location to hide whatever they had. He was undermining the inspection all the way. If only, if only, if only....blah blah. It couldn't be avoided because Hussein lied his ass off.
 
Nonsense. Bush did not want to be a "War president" please, this is foolish.


Furthermore, there was mountains of evidence and as I called it way back when, a bluff. Hussein bluffed and it cost him. Stop defending him.

He wasn't defending Hussein, obviously. But he brought up a good point. It is not good enough to use the excuse of having received bad intelligence. That has been tried, and does actually fool some people, but it is pathetic. Don't fall for it.

It's also not good enough to claim we believed the lies of a known liar.
 
He wasn't defending Hussein, obviously. But he brought up a good point. It is not good enough to use the excuse of having received bad intelligence. That has been tried, and does actually fool some people, but it is pathetic. Don't fall for it.

It's also not good enough to claim we believed the lies of a known liar.



What if he wasn't lying?

What do we do when a bomb threat is called into a school?
 
What if he wasn't lying?

What do we do when a bomb threat is called into a school?

Yeah...

Only one logical answer to that question:

If he wasn't lying, then we bomb the shit out of his country and obligate ourselves to rebuilding his nation and making it a democracy and lose thousands of American lives and spend over a trillion dollars in the process...


Real good, man. Let's base major war decisions based on 'what if.'


I don't care if he was lying or not - don't send my military in to enforce U.N. sanctions.



***By the way, your 'bomb threat' scenario doesn't apply. See, we had control over Saddam Hussein's military since 1991, the first gulf war. He couldn't threaten us with anything. Unless you're afraid of blustering pissants.
 
Yeah...

Only one logical answer to that question:

If he wasn't lying, then we bomb the shit out of his country and obligate ourselves to rebuilding his nation and making it a democracy and lose thousands of American lives and spend over a trillion dollars in the process...


Real good, man. Let's base major war decisions based on 'what if.'


I don't care if he was lying or not - don't send my military in to enforce U.N. sanctions.



***By the way, your 'bomb threat' scenario doesn't apply. See, we had control over Saddam Hussein's military since 1991, the first gulf war. He couldn't threaten us with anything. Unless you're afraid of blustering pissants.

What about Israel? You mention nothing of Israel.
 
Hell are you talking about?

If you can't figure it out you shouldn't be in this thread.

The WMD threat was to our ally Israel.

There's a clue.

Can you figure it out on your own now?
 
The fact of the matter is that there were actual reports from military personel, that inspected in 1998, and found that Iraq's chemical and biological weapons were out of date and useless. We knew they could not make more, because of the embargo on Iraq, no vaccines or medicines could enter the country so that they would not have access to compounds that would enable them to make new weapons.

Regardless, we went in, we conquered and occupied, and we must hope that this works out. The future is key. We have to learn from our mistakes and move forward in aiding the Iraqis keep their democracy in the midst of a very hostile land.
 
If you can't figure it out you shouldn't be in this thread.

The WMD threat was to our ally Israel.

There's a clue.

Can you figure it out on your own now?

Did Israel even provide any troops for Iraq?
 
Of course. Do you support everything about the Iraq War?

Of course not. But I understand some of the whys and hows of how we got in there.
 
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