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US appoints envoy to Muslim world

By going after the terrorists with the same firey zeal they went after cartoonists.

All 1.2 billion of us went after the cartoonist?
I don't know about you but i enjoyed a day off work and lazed around during those protests.

The Muslims speak the language, know the customs, can blend in and infiltrate. That's an advantage the West doesn't have.

But we do not have the weapons, technology or will power.
 
There are anti American terrorists in every part of the Muslim Community. There are American Muslims that hate America. The Taliban aren't the only Muslims that hate us and want to kill us. Why don't all Muslims work together to destroy Islamic extemism, everywhere?

The same reason why Christians everywhere don't work together to destroy Christian extremism. Most don't care to do anything because it doesn't directly affect them.
 
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You are not serious right?

Do Americans 'love' or 'hate' every country in the world? Put them in those two categories?
There is a grey area.


How would you feel if someone told you they were indifferent to murder? Or racism?
 
The same reason why Christians everywhere don't work together to destroy Christian extremism. Most don't care to do anything because it doesn't directly affect them.

Christians defeat Christian extremism all the time. Do Christians tolerate the KKK just because they're fellow Christians? Did Timothy McVeigh get a free pass because he was a Christian? No!
 
Christians defeat Christian extremism all the time. Do Christians tolerate the KKK just because they're fellow Christians? Did Timothy McVeigh get a free pass because he was a Christian? No!

Do Pakistani's tolerate Taliban? No they fight them constantly. Did the Iraqi people allow Al-Qaeda to gain control of the regions after Saddam's fall? No they fought them off and still do.

Despite what you want to believe. Muslims fight Muslims all the time and there is no wide acceptance of radicals in the Muslim community. The great majority of Muslims are normal people that just want to live peaceful and prosperous lives.

Your idea that if radicals exist the moderates must either actively annihilate them or be labeled supporters of radicalism is ludicrous.
 
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Do Pakistani's tolerate Taliban? No they fight them constantly. Did the Iraqi people allow Al-Qaeda to gain control of the regions after Saddam's fall? No they fought them off and still do.

Despite what you want to believe. Muslims fight Muslims all the time and there is no wide acceptance of radicals in the Muslim community. The great majority of Muslims are normal people that just want to live peaceful and prosperous lives.

Your idea that if radicals exist the moderates must either actively annihilate them or be labeled supporters of radicalism is ludicrous.


Most Muslims do not openly oppose anti-American extremism. They might give it lip service in their living room while they watch a Palestinian version of Mickey Mouse say that all the Jews must die, but they're not going to say it public and they're not going to take action to stop it. Muslims rarely side against other Muslims. Were the opposite true, anti-American Islamic extremism wouldn't exist.
 
Most Muslims do not openly oppose anti-American extremism.

Sources?

They might give it lip service in their living room while they watch a Palestinian version of Mickey Mouse say that all the Jews must die, but they're not going to say it public and they're not going to take action to stop it.
There are 700k people living in the West Bank. Who I must point out are refuges from present day Israel. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. These 700k hardly reflect the majority.

Muslims rarely side against other Muslims. Were the opposite true, anti-American Islamic extremism wouldn't exist.
:rofl Seriously? What is the fighting in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Pakistan, and Afghanistan? A bunch of Muslims fighting the Atheist populations?
 

I got a better idea. You provide a source that proves me wrong. I can't prove a negative.


There are 700k people living in the West Bank. Who I must point out are refuges from present day Israel. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. These 700k hardly reflect the majority.

The majority reflects the majority.


:rofl Seriously? What is the fighting in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Pakistan, and Afghanistan? A bunch of Muslims fighting the Atheist populations?


There's fighting in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait? A source, please?

Pakistan is fighting to preserve it's government. It's no the Pakistani people standing up and doing away with terrorism. As I said, if they did, the Taliban would be a chapter in history vice a current event.

The Iranians are protesting a rigged elction. Are they also fighting to destroy Hamas and Hezbollah?
 
I got a better idea. You provide a source that proves me wrong. I can't prove a negative.
I read your statement wrong. I agree most Muslims don't make it point to condemn terrorism. Why? Because it doesn't affect them. Why would Muslims in Indonesia and Bangladesh saying anything in regards to the Taliban? They are completely different cultures and don't directly affect one another.



The majority reflects the majority.
Yes it does. Which is NOT the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, or the West Bank.

There's fighting in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait? A source, please?

Pakistan is fighting to preserve it's government. It's no the Pakistani people standing up and doing away with terrorism. As I said, if they did, the Taliban would be a chapter in history vice a current event.

The Iranians are protesting a rigged elction. Are they also fighting to destroy Hamas and Hezbollah?

You said "Muslims rarely side against other Muslims". Muslims have been fighting Muslims for centuries on a regular basis. Terrorists even fight Terrorists, though rare since they usually don't occupy the same territory.
 
You said "Muslims rarely side against other Muslims". Muslims have been fighting Muslims for centuries on a regular basis. Terrorists even fight Terrorists, though rare since they usually don't occupy the same territory.

In fact, that is one of the major reasons for disagreements in Iraq when we were working to rebuild it. Opposing sects of Islam disagreeing on who should get what.
 
You said "Muslims rarely side against other Muslims". Muslims have been fighting Muslims for centuries on a regular basis. Terrorists even fight Terrorists, though rare since they usually don't occupy the same territory.


Sir, in modern times, show me where Muslims have sided against other Muslims, on behalf of America.
 
Sir, in modern times, show me where Muslims have sided against other Muslims, on behalf of America.

Iraq, last few years?

You going to admit defeat, or try and narrow your comments more to try and make them right?
 
Iraq, last few years?

You going to admit defeat, or try and narrow your comments more to try and make them right?

I haven't been defeated, my friend. You pointed out one instance where Americ paid Muslims to fight on our side, but more for their own well being, than our's. Were they fighting on our behalf, or did they finally, after 4 years, get tired of AQ's Iraq chapter killing off innocent civilians? Put yourself in their place. Would it take you 4 years to get a belly full of your own people being killed just to get back at the, "bad guys"?

Are you going to pick up the slack and post sources telling about anti-terrorist forces in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? I know how big you are on source documentation.
 
Sir, in modern times, show me where Muslims have sided against other Muslims, on behalf of America.

How many times are you going to move that goalpost of yours?
 
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I haven't been defeated, my friend. You pointed out one instance where Americ paid Muslims to fight on our side, but more for their own well being, than our's. Were they fighting on our behalf, or did they finally, after 4 years, get tired of AQ's Iraq chapter killing off innocent civilians? Put yourself in their place. Would it take you 4 years to get a belly full of your own people being killed just to get back at the, "bad guys"?

Are you going to pick up the slack and post sources telling about anti-terrorist forces in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? I know how big you are on source documentation.

Why would Iraqis fight on behalf of America and not of Iraq?
 
How naive. There is as much a "Muslim World" as there is a "Christian World". Just because a bunch of different communities are mostly Muslim doesn't mean they have anything to do with each other.
 
I haven't been defeated, my friend. You pointed out one instance where Americ paid Muslims to fight on our side, but more for their own well being, than our's. Were they fighting on our behalf, or did they finally, after 4 years, get tired of AQ's Iraq chapter killing off innocent civilians? Put yourself in their place. Would it take you 4 years to get a belly full of your own people being killed just to get back at the, "bad guys"?

Also, Iraqi wasn't fighting Al-Qaeda. They were and are fighting amongst themselves in differing political sects. Both rival groups fought off Al-Qaeda from trying to control Iraq.
 
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