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Obama spokesman says president believes Michael Jackson was a musical icon

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I hope this meets bn guidelines if not I apologize.




However, as one perdicted, Obama has come out with a statement on the pedophilic freak.


Note he still has not come out with any firm words other than "concern" and "appalled" for the massacre in Iran, or the struggle for freedom of the Iranian people.


I for one am no longer shocked at this administration and its lack or direction or its lack of American "pride" for a lack of a better word. Feckless, weak, and priorities all askew.
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Does the President have to deal with Michael Jackson regarding his nuclear programs, support of Hezbollah, and reestablishing oil sales? :confused:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I hope this meets bn guidelines if not I apologize.




However, as one perdicted, Obama has come out with a statement on the pedophilic freak.


Note he still has not come out with any firm words other than "concern" and "appalled" for the massacre in Iran, or the struggle for freedom of the Iranian people.


I for one am no longer shocked at this administration and its lack or direction or its lack of American "pride" for a lack of a better word. Feckless, weak, and priorities all askew.
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He was a musical icon. That much can't be denied no matter what you think of the guy. He may not be a musical icon now, but he was one. Just take a look at his record sales to see that.
 
I don't think Obama defended pedophilia or Michael Jackson's little boy fetish by making the neutral statement that he was a musical icon, at all.

I recognize that MJ was a musical icon but I also recognize that he was complete and total X-files grade freak, a bleached out child bugger who should never be alone with anyone between the ages of 5 and 12 (because face it, the threshhold of teen-age was past his interests), and that paying an undisclosed amount of money to several families is not admission of guilt but it sure as hell ain't a vindication.

So, yeah, the president stayed pretty neutral and didn't engage in tabloid statements with that one.

As for his conspicuously absent rhetoric on Iran...well that was annoying. I'm glad he finally said something but I do wish it had been a little quicker. I hope he's not finished, either. Brittain has already cut diplomatic ties by mutual expulsion of diplomats. I would hope our response would be equally explicit.
 
jallman said:
I don't think Obama defended pedophilia or Michael Jackson's little boy fetish by making the neutral statement that he was a musical icon, at all.

I recognize that MJ was a musical icon but I also recognize that he was complete and total X-files grade freak, a bleached out child bugger who should never be alone with anyone between the ages of 5 and 12 (because face it, the threshhold of teen-age was past his interests), and that paying an undisclosed amount of money to several families is not admission of guilt but it sure as hell ain't a vindication.

So, yeah, the president stayed pretty neutral and didn't engage in tabloid statements with that one.

As for his conspicuously absent rhetoric on Iran...well that was annoying. I'm glad he finally said something but I do wish it had been a little quicker. I hope he's not finished, either. Brittain has already cut diplomatic ties by mutual expulsion of diplomats. I would hope our response would be equally explicit.
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I agree on both counts. Obama's comments had nothing to do with any accusations towards Michael, nor did they support him in regards to them. It is ridiculous to think otherwise, and it is amazing that anyone would make the association.

And Obama should be stronger with Iran, considering the heinous acts their government is committing.
 
jallman said:
As for his conspicuously absent rhetoric on Iran...well that was annoying. I'm glad he finally said something but I do wish it had been a little quicker. I hope he's not finished, either. Brittain has already cut diplomatic ties by mutual expulsion of diplomats. I would hope our response would be equally explicit.
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Everyone and their cousins brothers sister knows that we are not going to expel any Iranian diplomats or cut what little ties we have with them. Obama is trying to initiate some sort of dialogue with them, he isn't going to cut ties over this. And I hope he doesn't.

It is terrible what Ahmadinajihad is doing to the Iranian people, but it is none of our business. We have no business endorsing a candidate, nor a political party there. And we have no reason to meddle in the backlash, which was of course expected. Iran would have been better off canceling the election.
 
Obama is Correct and On Time:)
 
jallman said:
I don't think Obama defended pedophilia or Michael Jackson's little boy fetish by making the neutral statement that he was a musical icon, at all.

I recognize that MJ was a musical icon but I also recognize that he was complete and total X-files grade freak, a bleached out child bugger who should never be alone with anyone between the ages of 5 and 12 (because face it, the threshhold of teen-age was past his interests), and that paying an undisclosed amount of money to several families is not admission of guilt but it sure as hell ain't a vindication.

So, yeah, the president stayed pretty neutral and didn't engage in tabloid statements with that one.

As for his conspicuously absent rhetoric on Iran...well that was annoying. I'm glad he finally said something but I do wish it had been a little quicker. I hope he's not finished, either. Brittain has already cut diplomatic ties by mutual expulsion of diplomats. I would hope our response would be equally explicit.
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Why not, he supports clubbing babies after failed abortions.
 
American said:
Okay. :roll: Now go to bed.
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:roll: Do you think that Obama defended pedophilia? If you do, offer proof. If you don't lay off the one-liners that make bad analogies.

And I'm not tired, yet. :2razz:
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
:roll: Do you think that Obama defended pedophilia? If you do, offer proof. If you don't lay off the one-liners that make bad analogies.

And I'm not tired, yet. :2razz:
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Hey, it was late. :shock:
 
I again see the incorrect usage of the term "pedophile." As noted, pedophilia is a mental disorder wherein an individual experiences a prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children. It has no necessary relation to specific behaviors, and cannot be determined by a "conviction."
 
I think what we forget here, when we think of entertainers being weird, is that their goal is to sell themselves. Michael Jackson was raised to believe since he was 5-years old that he was worth something when he sold records. Being from the Motown years he was taught that not only talent sold records, but also publicity. Any kind of publicity would do. The public is much more interested in the weird than we are the normal. Jackson was a genius when it came to this. I have read many interviews with people who met Jackson and said they were surprised at how normal he really was.

An entertainer's public image can be far from the real person.

Regarding the accusations of child molestation, we do not know what really happened. None of us can say it is true for sure, none of us can say it is not true for sure. Only the actual people involved can make one of those statements with certainty.

What gets me about this whole thing with Obama is how he only took less than a day to comment on Michael Jackson, yet on the important government issues, he waits it out. His priorities seem out of order.
 
Alex said:
What gets me about this whole thing with Obama is how he only took less than a day to comment on Michael Jackson, yet on the important government issues, he waits it out. His priorities seem out of order.
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Not sure I understand your reasoning here. It's not like he would need to put much thought into a statement about Michael Jackson. All he did was state the obvious. Done.

I don't want him rushing on matters of high government importance. I would prefer he take his time, where reasonable, and provide us with an intelligently thought out comment.
 
Lerxst said:
Not sure I understand your reasoning here. It's not like he would need to put much thought into a statement about Michael Jackson. All he did was state the obvious. Done.

I don't want him rushing on matters of high government importance. I would prefer he take his time, where reasonable, and provide us with an intelligently thought out comment.
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I think he has a higher responsibility to deal with government issues, and those things do require a more thought-out statement, but he waits too long, IMO.
 
Agnapostate said:
I again see the incorrect usage of the term "pedophile." As noted, pedophilia is a mental disorder wherein an individual experiences a prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children. It has no necessary relation to specific behaviors, and cannot be determined by a "conviction."
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Although what you say is true, there is some question as to whether Michael Jackson was afflicted with this condition.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Although what you say is true, there is some question as to whether Michael Jackson was afflicted with this condition.
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I think it's apparent what condition he was afflicted by in that Stan Katz determined that he "[didn't] fit the profile of a pedophile" and was more akin to a "regressed ten year old" after a psychological examination.
 
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