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South Carolina Governor Admits to Extramarital Affair (title updated)

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Somethings are just common knowledge. Kinda like me saying that the sun sets in the west. Don't really need to provide evidence of that to most folks. Anyone who does require proof...well...

You do if some one calls you on your claim. One thing I have gotten good at on this board is making it clear when I am offering an opinion, and when I am making claims, and learning how to find and give sources for my claims.
 
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BS. You stated it as if it were fact. When asked for proof you couldn't provide it which means that it is your opinion.

How 'bout we take a poll of everyone who didn't hear those comments coming from the Left and go from there?

You do if some one calls you on your claim. One thing I have gotten good at on this board is making it clear when I am offering an opinion, and when I am making claims, and learning how to find and give sources for my claims.

Again, somethings just don't need supporting documentation. In cases such as this, demanding supporting docs is just being argumentative.
 
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How 'bout we take a poll of everyone who didn't hear those comments coming from the Left and go from there?

A poll doesn't amount to squat without proof. Try again. :2wave:

Again, somethings just don't need supporting documentation. In cases such as this, demanding supporting docs is just being argumentative.

Not at all. It helps your credibility and validates your claims. Without it your assertion amounts to nothing.
 
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Not at all. It helps your credibility and validates your claims. Without it your assertion amounts to nothing.

In this particular case, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes?

But, worry not, Doc, 99.99% of the time, I never make any factual claim that I can't back up.;)
 
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It was ultimately a turn around of the, "If you disagree with Obama, you want America to fail", routine we got from the Libbos.

Are you talking about when Rush Lardball said he hoped Obama would fail?

I think if anyone was hyperboling it was when Bush was in office, any criticism was portrayed as "hating America" by the rightards.
 
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Best to avoid the topic and focus on what you are going to do for the voter.
you can choose not to play the poltical games. Perhaps you'll win. More likely, you'll lose.

Lots of people do the same. I don't care if they cheat or not, but there is no question you harm yourself and your party FAR more when you preach about your lofty moral standing and then get caught with your dick in the mouth of someone who is not your spouse.
in this case it wouldn't of mattered. Adultery is often politically devestating. That's why politicans have accused others of it for years. Even jefferson (or one of the early presidents). It doesn't even have to be true to have an effect.

The reason most people cared so little about Clinton was because we all knew he'd cheat on Hilliary.
:lol: Anymore hindsight bias to add?

Who wouldn't?
you being serious or trying to be funny?

People just have a worse reaction when you preach A and then do the opposite. Which seems to be the GOP soup du jour lately.
hypocrisy may exacerbate the error. But hypocrisy isn't what ended his career. Adultery is. Just like claiming atheism or homosexuality would for most other politicans. Being found a hypocrite has a negligable effect.
 
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I agree this does sound fishy. There is a chance that this is yet another Republican lack of morals scandle in the brewing.

You this puppy right on the head Dog !!!!
 
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He should have had the dignity to resign. It's not the affair, it's that he was AWOL from his Governor duties. Now, they should impeach him.

Are you kidding me? I wished more politicians would take a long break. :bolt:
 
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Again, somethings just don't need supporting documentation. In cases such as this, demanding supporting docs is just being argumentative.

Apparently this is not one of those times, and if you want your claim to be taken seriously, you need to be able to back them up. Pretty much any one who has been here any time has gotten used to it. Those who do not back up their claims are not taken seriously.
 
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Are you talking about comments such as this one, Redress?



Only interested in clarity.

Both. By the way, trying to pass off what you do by pointing to some one else is a weak argument.
 
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Only when that politician is a member of the "family values" set that abandons his family and offices with no notice, to go somewhere unknown for an undetermined amount of time, to do unmentionable things to someone that isn't his spouse.

Good ol' family values!

So there you have it, from the mouth of a liberal herself. Don't have any values, don't stand up for anything, don't try to say we should live good lives, because if you fail at all at it it automatically makes you the scum of the earth.

So THAT'S why its fine that Ted Kennedy killed the chick while drunk driving. Its okay because its not like Democrats say you should follow the law, or be good people, or be upstanding people, so its perfectly okay when they do things because while they may not be doing wrong at least they're not HYPOCRITES.

Oh, wait, you're going to tell me "no, no, its not that at all. It just makes it allllllll the more worse when someone whose from a PARTY that stands for something does something other than it."

If that's the case, I'm sure all you liberals on this site will be rejecting WillRockWell whose a member of the party that's supposed to be tolerant, understanding, and respectful for homosexual lifestyles but yet was trolling this thread non-stops with insults, jokes, and insinuation painting homosexuality in a negative, humorous, and disgusting light.

Oh wait, hold on, I'm sure as we've seen time and time again hypocrisy is only going to matter when its on the other side.

I do hope none of the liberals in this thread have kids and have ever told them "Don't break the law", cause I can't imagine a single one of you have never jay walked, speed, ran a red light, or any other minor or major criminal act. Oh my god, if you have, and you told your kids not to break laws, you're the vilest worst thing ever, a hypocrite! You should be thrown in jail, tared and feathered, and have your kids taken away by your standards.
 
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What an asshole. He shoulda known the Libs were going to wear this crap out. Dumb****.

Hey, our side is still wearing the Clinton crap out. LOL.
 
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Anyone know where the Governor stood on the issue of "gay marriage" destroying "traditional marriage"?
 
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So there you have it, from the mouth of a liberal herself. Don't have any values, don't stand up for anything, don't try to say we should live good lives, because if you fail at all at it it automatically makes you the scum of the earth.

I don't think that its so much that....its that when you proclaim to be the party of "family values" you kinda open yourself up to this type of criticism when it turns out that your members don't always practice what you preach.
 
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So there you have it, from the mouth of a liberal herself. Don't have any values, don't stand up for anything, don't try to say we should live good lives, because if you fail at all at it it automatically makes you the scum of the earth.

No, most everyone has values and morals, BUT when a group claims to have better values, sewed on their sleeves like flag bumper stickers on a pickup, and often mixed with religion damning to hell those without the same precise set, then yes, they certainly deserve the hypocrisy label when they fail to practice what they damn others for.
 
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So there you have it, from the mouth of a liberal herself. Don't have any values, don't stand up for anything, don't try to say we should live good lives, because if you fail at all at it it automatically makes you the scum of the earth.

So THAT'S why its fine that Ted Kennedy killed the chick while drunk driving. Its okay because its not like Democrats say you should follow the law, or be good people, or be upstanding people, so its perfectly okay when they do things because while they may not be doing wrong at least they're not HYPOCRITES.

Oh, wait, you're going to tell me "no, no, its not that at all. It just makes it allllllll the more worse when someone whose from a PARTY that stands for something does something other than it."

If that's the case, I'm sure all you liberals on this site will be rejecting WillRockWell whose a member of the party that's supposed to be tolerant, understanding, and respectful for homosexual lifestyles but yet was
trolling this thread non-stops with insults, jokes, and insinuation painting homosexuality in a negative, humorous, and disgusting light.

Oh wait, hold on, I'm sure as we've seen time and time again hypocrisy is only going to matter when its on the other side.

I do hope none of the liberals in this thread have kids and have ever told them "Don't break the law", cause I can't imagine a single one of you have never jay walked, speed, ran a red light, or any other minor or major criminal act. Oh my god, if you have, and you told your kids not to break laws, you're the vilest worst thing ever, a hypocrite! You should be thrown in jail, tared and feathered, and have your kids taken away by your standards
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Talk about trolling.... yeesh. :roll:
 
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Anyone know where the Governor stood on the issue of "gay marriage" destroying "traditional marriage"?

Why? Are you looking for ammo?
 
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Are you kidding me? I wished more politicians would take a long break. :bolt:

With a goomar? In Argentina? And this guy is on the short list for the Republican presidential nomination?
 
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And the Libbos still deny it happened, but anyway...


Show me someone who denies it happened. Come on, you said it, now prove it.
 
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Why? Are you looking for ammo?

No....just curious. I don't know much about the guy...but it would be interesting to know if he was vocal about "gay marriage" destroying traditional marriage while all the time he was doing much more about destroying traditional marriage than gay marriage ever will.
 
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I don't think that its so much that....its that when you proclaim to be the party of "family values" you kinda open yourself up to this type of criticism when it turns out that your members don't always practice what you preach.

All politicians state you should follow the law. Should we decry the ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY when a single one of their politicians is found breaking the law? Should we call all Democrats hypocrites for being a "party of following the law" because Richard Jefferson had cash stashed in his fridge?

If people wanted to say "This man is a hypocrite" that'd be one thing, that'd be something to debate and talk about. But its never "this man", its democrats doing what they always do...identity politics. Republicans, in general, run on a platform that you should try to be a moral, upstanding person (How DARE they), and thus when ONE of them has a moment of failure somehow its free for all on the part of liberals to attack not just that person but the ENTIRE PARTY for being "hypocrites".

Sorry, I never remembered the party platform of "be perfect", I don't remember the party platform of "never make a mistake". Those aren't parts of the Republican platform that I know of...perhaps you can enlighten me.

If a parent was an abuser of substances all through their youth and still at times in their adulthood but told their children they shouldn't abuse substances and tries to hide the fact they do not have the willpower or the ability to fight that urge themselves should that parent be demonized, attacked, derided, and called scum NOT for the action he's taking with substance but for telling his children they shouldn't abuse substances?

We have many on this forum that say they smoke pot. Yet if they have children do they smoke it in front of their children? Do they tell their children that they shouldn't do drugs? If they do, should we get social services in there to strip the children away from them...not because they're doing drugs, but because they're HYPOCRITES hurtfully and wrongfully trying to tell their children to be better than they are.

Yes, how HORRIBLE of the Republican party. Telling people they should try to have a stable family, that it is good to have parents that actually are attentive to the needs of their kids, that you should attempt to spend time as a family, that being a moral upstanding person is the right thing to do. I mean seriously, what the hell are they thinking? Don't they know that out of the millions of republicans out there 100% of them will likely falter at this at some point in time? Which means its OBVIOUS that they should never even push those things as good things, or something society should strive to do, because someone may screw up with it at some point and that just proves its worthless to do.

Oh, wait, the sanctity of marriage thing. Hahaha, yep! You Got me there! All us Republicans or Conservatives when these things come out always go "Haha, wonderful job there Joe! You were definitely banging that woman behind your wifes back. Great job! Atta boy Joe! That's the right way to do things, Hoo Ah!"

Wait, no. Generally I remember them coming out and repudiating the act as being something against what conservatives and republicans generally feel is correct behavior. I generally see Republicans coming out not trying to define what "is" is but saying "I was wrong" and if they DON'T then becoming a laughing stock even within their own party.

But liberals don't see that, liberals don't acknowledge that, because THAT actually shows the republicans FOLLOWING their moral views and feelings in regards to marriage and family values and well...pshh....everyone knows THAT'D be bad to acknowledge politically because it'd sure take the sting out of hounding those mean hypocritical evil vile republicans.

Give me a break.
 
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If people wanted to say "This man is a hypocrite" that'd be one thing, that'd be something to debate and talk about. But its never "this man", its democrats doing what they always do...identity politics. Republicans, in general, run on a platform that you should try to be a moral, upstanding person (How DARE they), and thus when ONE of them has a moment of failure somehow its free for all on the part of liberals to attack not just that person but the ENTIRE PARTY for being "hypocrites".

Speech means little when you fail to live by what you preach.
 
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Speech means little when you fail to live by what you preach.

Again, please show how this man ending up making a mistake (and then owning up to said mistake, and admitting it was a mistake and was wrong) is somehow showing that "The republican party" and those that adhere to it are somehow hypocrites or not practicing what they preach.

I don't see "The republican party" or those that are part of it saying what this man did was right. I don't see THIS MAN saying what he did was right. But again, as I already said, all the ways they ARE actually adhering to their beliefs and views doesn't matter and won't be recognized by you and other liberals because that takes away your talking points and your little political buzzwords by focusing on what the majority of republicans, including this man, are doing and instead of focusing on a singular act.

Again, I find it funny how you won't touch any of the analogies, because they show how completely idiotic this is and how off base and, more to the point, that this is nothing to do with morals or how outraged people are but its something for hyper partisan liberals to try and spin to use to gain political points and nothing more.
 
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I don't think that its so much that....its that when you proclaim to be the party of "family values" you kinda open yourself up to this type of criticism when it turns out that your members don't always practice what you preach.

It's almost as if some Liberals are saying that their standards are lower than everyone else's.
 
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Speech means little when you fail to live by what you preach.

People who have screwed up are often the best to teach others how NOT to follow the same path. They have some of the best experience especially when they recognize their error or have overcome such adversity.
 
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