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Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

OxymoronP said:
1. She is in shock and you can see it in her eyes
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REally?

The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Shock includes the 19 symptoms listed below:

Sudden drop in blood pressure
Hypotension
Cold skin
Clammy skin
Pallor
Cyanosis
Sweaty skin
Weak pulse
Rapid pulse
Irregular breathing
Rapid breathing
Shallow breathing
Weakness
Dilated pupils
Anxiety
Confusion
Lethargy
Reduced urination
Loss of consciousness
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Symptoms of Shock - WrongDiagnosis.com


House might be able to video diagnose... but you can too? Please show which symptom she's clearly showing.
 
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OxymoronP said:
As a Father it was incredibly hard for me to watch the video of this event. I hope the Tyrants and thugs responsible are hanged.
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I am afraid that the only way individual justicewill come to those responsible for murder s if the opposition wins and throws the murdering Mullahs out on there robes wearing asses.
 
Obama said himself he was a Muslim I head him say it so keep your lies to yourselves. Keeping quiet while paople die is a nice tactic Neville Chamberlain lovers. Why are some of you and Obama affraid to speak out against repression and want to take the cowards way out.
Biden said he'd be tested and so far he has failed at every turn when he isn't failing he's lying. I never liked the obviously inept fool but I wanted him to succeed because when he fails the Nation fails and so far he is an embarrassment around the worl with his only support coming from a bunch of pansies and panty waists with no back bone or guts.
There is no way that cow towing to his religious leaders helps anyone but his fellow Muslim friends, and his standing in the his home land and that is not here.
 
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MrVicchio said:
House might be able to video diagnose... but you can too? Please show which symptom she's clearly showing.
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At the same time how can you diagnose she is not feeling those things, yet you say it is fake? When did you become the resident doctor here?

Like all videos I will always say there is a possibility of being fake, however, you have concluded it is.

When did you become a video expert?
 
Councilman said:
Obama said himself he was a Muslim
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When did he say this, prove it in one of the appropriate threads or STFU please. This lie being continued is ridiculous and does nothing for this thread. Go troll elsewhere.
 
MrVicchio said:
I'm sorry, but it looks faked. I hope it's not (in a way) but it doesn't pass the smell test. Her name.. "The voice" or "The calling" (according to several sites I hit on this). The fact the video is after she's shot, and.. hell if there is shooting, who is gonna stand around to "save" her? Why aren't people running scared?

I'm worried this IS fake, and it will hurt the Iranian movement far more then help it.

Of course, I'm being one hell of a cynic.
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I really do hope that you are wrong abou this being a fake. The name does not really bother me after all in the Western world we have names such as Hope, Charity, Faith, Prudence, etc.
 
TheNextEra said:
At the same time how can you diagnose she is not feeling those things, yet you say it is fake? When did you become the resident doctor here?

Like all videos I will always say there is a possibility of being fake, however, you have concluded it is.

When did you become a video expert?
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When I quit letting my heart react to videos on the internets ;)

Seriously though, why does the video end so abruptly?

Why does it not go on at all?

If snipers are taking pot shots near by, why are so many people just standing around?
 
OxymoronP said:
So what did they do shove that Blood bag in down her throat?
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No offense, but it's not that hard to hold a small blood bag in your mouth, Hollywood does it ALL the time.
 
F107HyperSabr said:
I really do hope that you are wrong abou this being a fake. The name does not really bother me after all in the Western world we have names such as Hope, Charity, Faith, Prudence, etc.
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True, but imagine a.. a western video about a girl named... Hope, dying like this.

Would not that raise some red flags eh?
 
MrVicchio said:
When I quit letting my heart react to videos on the internets ;)

Seriously though, why does the video end so abruptly?

Why does it not go on at all?

If snipers are taking pot shots near by, why are so many people just standing around?
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Again, I have no problem with you questioning the video, I see that, but you claim to be a video expert and claim it is false. Again how so?

What makes you an expert on the video? How can you 100% claim it is false like you did?
 
TheNextEra said:
When did he say this, prove it in one of the appropriate threads or STFU please. This lie being continued is ridiculous and does nothing for this thread. Go troll elsewhere.
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I do seem to recall that he made a comment about his "Muslim heritage" or his "Muslim faith" in an interview with George Stephanopolous during the campaign.

However, the tenor and manner of that statement puts it more in the realm of malapropism like his comment about having visited 57 states: just more evidence of why he needs the teleprompter.
 
MrVicchio said:
Pallor, really? Pale? That's it? You do know Iranians aren't all dark skinned right?
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I do indeed. Those that I have met personally are somewhat light complected. However, her skin color appears to me to be pale and a bit "off"--exactly what one would expect from a woman going in to shock as she bleeds out.
 
celticlord said:
I do seem to recall that he made a comment about his "Muslim heritage" or his "Muslim faith" in an interview with George Stephanopolous during the campaign.

However, the tenor and manner of that statement puts it more in the realm of malapropism like his comment about having visited 57 states: just more evidence of why he needs the teleprompter.
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Again show the quote in an appropriate thread, or piss off.

Your "seem to recall" is about as accurate as an Alzheimer patient without any quote to go by. Prove it or just bow out into the little existence you call life.
 
MrVicchio said:
Shock? She's supposed to be with her "father" calling to her, yet she's watching the camera... watching the camera.

People in shock tend to fight to focus on something familiar.. like a family member.



And the coup de grace, right after this "red" patch goes near her face she starts bleeding out of every orifice.. from a chest wound.

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I'm sorry, I don't buy it. And the sad sad sad part is, if this IS in fact fake, as it is appearing to be... it will hurt the rebellion and help the mullahs.
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There is always the possibility of something like this being a fake, but imo your comments don't necessarily support that. The red patch near her face appears to be her father's hand, which had just been on her chest, as evidenced by the previous picture. It is possible that her eyes have begun to roll back as she loses consciousness in the pic that appears to show her looking at the camera. There is no way for us to know the temperature of her skin, her pulse, blood pressure, etc. As blood flowed from her nose, gravity may have caused it to flow toward her forehead and upon reaching her eyes, redirected down onto the ground.
 
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Councilman said:
Obama said himself he was a Muslim...
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He slipped up in an interview. News stories following the interview mention that he misspoke.

Later, when in Cairo, he stated:

That is what I will try to do today -- to speak the truth as best I can, humbled by the task before us, and firm in my belief that the interests we share as human beings are far more powerful than the forces that drive us apart.

Now part of this conviction is rooted in my own experience. I'm a Christian, but my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and at the fall of dusk. As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.
 
TheNextEra said:
Again, I have no problem with you questioning the video, I see that, but you claim to be a video expert and claim it is false. Again how so?

What makes you an expert on the video? How can you 100% claim it is false like you did?
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It's called I'm taking a position, I posted the pics that lead me to believe this video is sadly (for the cause of fighting the mullahs repression) a fake, and it will hurt the rebels in the long run.
 
hiswoman said:
There is always the possibility of something like this being a fake, but imo your comments don't necessarily support that.
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IMO, the video is probably authentic. After all, there is more than one such video that was shot. According to The Washington Post:

Update: The woman is being called "Neda" and her image is becoming a symbol of Iran's brutality against its own people. Her name is already a trending topic on Twitter. There are now at least two separate videos of her death on YouTube.

That multiple videos of the incident exist makes it less likely that the original video is not authentic.
 
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MrVicchio said:
It's called I'm taking a position, I posted the pics that lead me to believe this video is sadly (for the cause of fighting the mullahs repression) a fake, and it will hurt the rebels in the long run.
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So you claim it is fake 100% then right? Again, how are you a video expert, even I say it might not be true, but I am not like you saying it is FAKE.

You could say you THINK it is fake, but you didn't say that, you said it is FAKE ABSOLUTELY. So when did you become the vidoe expert?
 
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