• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

It's going to take more than one pretty girl dying on YouTube to justify military action.

There is still a full quiver of diplomatic arrows that have to be expended before we send in the Marines.

There is still a full quiver of diplomatic arrows that should be expended before we send in the Marines, but if people continue to let their emotions get the best of them -- like the numerous posts on this forum asserting that we should go in there and saaaaaaaaaaaaaave the people -- at some point the hawks and hotheads are going to get what they want, and then we're really in trouble.
 
Okay, CL, I see your point. My concern is that the fervor that the images of her death are generating will be used to justify a military action, and that's what I was thinking of when talking about what the Iranian people don't need.

I do not believe that the murder of Neda will propel the West into any invasion. The Arab and/or Muslim states around Iran will not use her martydom as any excuse for an invasion. Russia could care less about human rights so they would not be propelled by any concern for a human being. Israel is not capable of conducting an invasion of Iran and they also could care less about the life of any Iranians much less the life of one Iranian girl.

Making the murderous thugs aware that the world is watching is and keeping the prreasute with demonstartions and urging the decent governments of the world to keep telling the the Thugs of Tehran that they should not be get too carried away is about all that will happen.
 
I'm willing to posit that it'll take more then Neda's death alone to start a military action, but the fact is that we've used outrage as our excuse many times in the past to justify such action.
 
I'm willing to posit that it'll take more then Neda's death alone to start a military action, but the fact is that we've used outrage as our excuse many times in the past to justify such action.

Well I will grant you that there was at least one ly whacky case that I can think of off hand is "The War of Jenkins' Ear " between Great Britain and Spain. Robert Jenkins, captain of a British merchant ship, exhibited his severed ear in Parliament after that ear was cut off by Spanish coast guards in 1731.

Yet Britain and Spain was heading towards war and that was an excuse albiet not he only excuse but an excuse.

And before some libber get her panties in a bunch I am not saying that the Neda case is "wacky" becasue if I did I would not have posted it the way that I did.
 
Last edited:
I'm willing to posit that it'll take more then Neda's death alone to start a military action, but the fact is that we've used outrage as our excuse many times in the past to justify such action.
As excuse, yes.

The destruction of the USS Maine was the excuse for war with Spain in 1898. However, that excuse was merely the final impetus for a desire for war that had been brewing for some time. It rationalized what America already desired.

America does not desire war with Iran. Even within President Bush's doctrines of preemption, America did not desire war with Iran.

Neda's martyrdom is cause for outrage, but such outrage, absent the pre-existing desire for war, will not lead to war.
 
As excuse, yes.

The destruction of the USS Maine was the excuse for war with Spain in 1898. However, that excuse was merely the final impetus for a desire for war that had been brewing for some time. It rationalized what America already desired.

America does not desire war with Iran. Even within President Bush's doctrines of preemption, America did not desire war with Iran.

Neda's martyrdom is cause for outrage, but such outrage, absent the pre-existing desire for war, will not lead to war.


I think that war with Iran is not likley but the lack of desire or lack of fire is not the only reason for not going to war Iran. We are just getting out of a protracted war in Iraq where a sizable number of us fealt was embaked upon on questionable grounds and we are back in the future again in Afghanistan.

A war with Iran would have to be provoked pretty strongly by the Iraniacs of Iran before we take action. And even if we had to take action I would not hold my breathe waiting for an invasion.
 
Back
Top Bottom