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Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

RightinNYC said:
1) He did not win by 40 million votes. He won 24,527,516 to 13,216,411.

2) lo****ingl @ your assertion that Iran does not have 40m people.



This is so hilarious that I don't know where to start.
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The election was an absolute sham. Even you must realize this.
 
Vader said:
The election was an absolute sham. Even you must realize this.
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And the best way to express that is to take 15 seconds to educate yourself about the facts.
 
Vader said:
Did you fail math when you were in high school?

Major cities of Iran and their approximate populations:
City Population

If you add togther the populations of all of Iran's major cites ... those numbers do not come to 40 million. The election was rigged.

You fail!

RighinNYC ---stop brownosing!
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Iran Population
- 2007 census 70,472,846
 
Vader said:
The election was an absolute sham. Even you must realize this.
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Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

Did you fail math when you were in high school?


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You fail!
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When you go off spouting nonsense with out backing it up you sound like a unschooled moron. Iran does have around 70 million people. It doesn't matter if a lot of people do not live in big cities a lot of people do not live in big cities in the US.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/IR.html
Population:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
66,429,284 (July 2009 est.)

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran]Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Population
- 2007 (1385 AP) census 70,472,846³

population in iran Tehran Mashhad Esfahan

Population statistics

Current Iran's population is over 71 million.






Major cities of Iran and their approximate populations:
City Population

If you add togther the populations of all of Iran's major cites ... those numbers do not come to 40 million.
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So what if those numbers do not add come up to 40 million,the only thing that proves is that most of the people there do not live in big cities.

The articles claiming the elections were rigged also point out that the election was 24,527,516 to 13,216,411.

[ame=http://www.google.com/search?q=24%2C527%2C516+to+13%2C216%2C411.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a]24,527,516 to 13,216,411. - Google Search[/ame]

The election was rigged.
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Do you have any evidence to support this claim? IS there anything to suggest that there was election fraud going on?
 
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I think that it's cute that our forum wingnuts are all-of-a-sudden concerned about "sham elections."
 
US meddling prevented Iran from having the government it has now. Perhaps, had we a president in '79 that wasn't a wuss, the current government in Iran wouldn't be the problem that it is.
 
The Jovial One said:
I think that it's cute that our forum wingnuts are all-of-a-sudden concerned about "sham elections."
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That implies that there has been something in the US recently that could be considered a "sham election." Since that's obviously not the case, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Plz to be clarifying?
 
RightinNYC said:
And the best way to express that is to take 15 seconds to educate yourself about the facts.
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RightinNYC,

The election in Iran was a total sham. How can you defend what the Ayetolietbowl and his cronies have done?

:confused:
 
jamesrage said:
Do you have any evidence to support this claim?



When you go off spouting nonsense with out backing it up you sound like a unschooled moron. Iran does have around 70 million people. It doesn't matter if a lot of people do not live in big cities a lot of people do not live in big cities in the US.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/IR.html
Population:
Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order.
66,429,284 (July 2009 est.)

Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Population
- 2007 (1385 AP) census 70,472,846³

population in iran Tehran Mashhad Esfahan

Population statistics

Current Iran's population is over 71 million.







So what if those numbers do not add come up to 40 million,the only thing that proves is that most of the people there do not live in big cities.

The articles claiming the elections were rigged also point out that the election was 24,527,516 to 13,216,411.

24,527,516 to 13,216,411. - Google Search

Do you have any evidence to support this claim? IS there anything to suggest that there was election fraud going on?
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In the best of civilizations NOT EVERY MEMBER VOTES. In a backwards ass theocracy like Iran ... maybe half of the population is allowed to vote and of those ... maybe one quater actually voted.

Still ... the evidence is in the news, in the election data (there were more votes than voters) and in the furor of the people.

To defend the Iranian regieme is unacceptable and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Moreover, Wikipedia is NOT a valid sorce. Citing it shows your despiration.
 
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Vader said:
In the best of civilizations NOT EVERY MEMBER VOTES. In a backwards ass theocracy like Iran ... maybe half of the population is allowed to vote and of those ... maybe one quater actually voted.
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Any evidence to support your claims that only half to a quarter of the population is registered and allowed to vote.

Still ... the evidence is in the news, in the election data (there were more votes than voters) and in the furor of the people.
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I think that if you had this so called evidence you would have posted it. You would be citing multiple sources showing the number of registered Iranian voters,you would be posting articles of a acorn like organization registering dead people and cartoon characters, you would be citing sources showing that ballots mysteriouslly appearing after election day and all kinds of other sources.

To defend the Iranian regieme is unacceptable and you should be ashamed of yourself.
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I am not defending anyone. I am just wondering if we should be jumping on this he stole the elections band wagon. As far as I know the other guy is just as worse and wants to wipe Israel off the map just as much as the current president of Iran.

Moreover, Wikipedia is NOT a valid sorce. Citing it shows your despiration.
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If you noticed I cited multiple sources. You claiming that Iran doesn't have 40 million people when clearly there is multiple sources stating otherwise is a sign of ignorance and desperation




I think that if you had any evidence to support your claim of election fraud you would have presented it.The claims of someone in the media, some politician and some political pundit is not evidence of election fraud. We had people over here trying to do the same **** when Bush won fair and square twice.
 
Obama administration as well as it supporters have been running with 3 main routines..they are subtle but everywhere.

1. Iran electon may not have been a Fraud.

2. Mousavi/Ahmadinut are the same.

3. USA is bad.
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#1&#2 may be true there may be no fraud and there may be no real difference between the two named. But that doesn't matter its how they can present or distort the information to favor Obama that matters.
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#1 is a double edged sword..but Obama&Co only present one side.
O side- It allows the to claim there no fraud so this is totally internal Iranian argument.
Other side- The people of Iran did elect the lunatic nutballs.

#2 Excuse to cover the "meddling" crap. Claim is basically they have nobody to support anyway so why bother.

#3 Canned rhetoric..every single thing the USA is involved or not in Obama and his supporters portray the US role in as a negative.



Look at it all in regards to the USA on how Obama needs the message portrayed. How it make him look good...and you have why the USA is sitting on the side not meddling while its President reminds us of a stupid speech he gave in Cairo..

Obama cares about Obama and nothing else.


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Triad said:
Obama administration as well as it supporters have been running with 3 main routines..they are subtle but everywhere.

1. Iran electon may not have been a Fraud.

2. Mousavi/Ahmadinut are the same.
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I am no Obama supporter and I believe 1 & 2 are correct. All I see here is Vader screaming there is fraud going on how and how dare you defend the Iranian regime" and making up ignorant desperate claims that Iran doesn't even have 40 million people instead of offering up any real evidence of fraud. Considering the desperate tactics that sore losers resort to, like with the retards who claimed Bush stole the elections both time. One has to wonder if that sort of thing is happening in Iran.
 
IMO it doesn't really matter if they are true or not..
The USA should be supporting whichever reality helps undermine or better yet overthrows the despotic theocracy of Iran.
But Obama is more interested in Talks.

Besides my point has little to nothing to do with whatever you two are arguing over.


My overall point is that Obama and his supporters are actively trying to downplay the entire thing because Obama does not want to act on it. You can see it form his own language down to the Democrat strategist talking head types.
 
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Triad said:
IMO it doesn't really matter if they are true or not..
The USA should be supporting whichever reality helps undermine or better yet overthrows the despotic theocracy of Iran.
But Obama is more interested in Talks.
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Overthrowing, which is against US law I might add, would do absolutely nothing for us. It would probably be just another crazy nutjob who wants to blow us off the map. Most people in the middle east hate us and dont want us butting into their business, and damnit, we should listen to them!

Talks would be more useful and productive than overthrowing a regime that has alot of secret support in the middle east, not to mention the billions of dollars it would cost to do so. Would you rather Obama spend more, since all you conservatives can do is complain about his spending, on a bunch of nonsense that would be unhelpful to us in any way?


My overall point is that Obama and his supporters are actively trying to downplay the entire thing because Obama does not want to act on it. You can see it form his own language down to the Democrat strategist talking head types.
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Your right. Obama DOESNT want to act on it. Because its none of our damn business, nor is it our problem. There is such a slim difference in the two, that it wouldnt matter who won, he just wants the violence to stop, which Iran got mad at him for saying.

So hes damned if he does and damned if he doesnt by you. Is there any way to make you happy?
 
Vader said:
RightinNYC,

The election in Iran was a total sham. How can you defend what the Ayetolietbowl and his cronies have done?

:confused:
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The fact that the election appears to have been fraudulent and the fact that you don't know what you're talking about are not mutually exclusive.
 
Democrat4life said:
Overthrowing, which is against US law I might add, would do absolutely nothing for us. It would probably be just another crazy nutjob who wants to blow us off the map. Most people in the middle east hate us and dont want us butting into their business, and damnit, we should listen to them!

Talks would be more useful and productive than overthrowing a regime that has alot of secret support in the middle east, not to mention the billions of dollars it would cost to do so. Would you rather Obama spend more, since all you conservatives can do is complain about his spending, on a bunch of nonsense that would be unhelpful to us in any way?

Your right. Obama DOESNT want to act on it. Because its none of our damn business, nor is it our problem. There is such a slim difference in the two, that it wouldnt matter who won, he just wants the violence to stop, which Iran got mad at him for saying.

So hes damned if he does and damned if he doesnt by you. Is there any way to make you happy?
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so the French should not have aided us in our revolution? Long Live The Queen?
 
DeeJayH said:
so the French should not have aided us in our revolution? Long Live The Queen?
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Well, back then it was int eh French's interests to help us, as they had bad relations with Britain, AND it was not against French law back then to aid in coups. And it wasn't a coup here, it was a damn revolution.
 
We should stay out of it.. Same with every other country that Hates us. Stay out of it and take care of home rather than always being up in other peeps biz.

But.. If I must take a stance and was Obama? I would tell em if you wanna bomb Israel? Go Ahead and Try It! We will be over there and take YOUR country and give it to Isreal!
The End!
 
Iran needs to be punished for what it did.

To start with -- all of the fuel Iran imports from other nations needs to be cut off.

Any aid being given to Iran from other nations needs to cease.

The world needs to reach out and universally black-list Iran until they hold a free and non-fixed, mullah interference-free election.

The starting point for the return of the aid and the fuel is the removal of the Ayetolietbowl and Aminaterroristjihad from power.

Iran is wrong and they MUST be stopped.
 
vader said:
iran needs to be punished for what it did.

To start with -- all of the fuel iran imports from other nations needs to be cut off.

Any aid being given to iran from other nations needs to cease.

The world needs to reach out and universally black-list iran until they hold a free and non-fixed, mullah interference-free election.

The starting point for the return of the aid and the fuel is the removal of the ayetolietbowl and aminaterroristjihad from power.

Iran is wrong and they must be stopped.
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arg!!!!!!!!
Arrrrrrrgggg!!!!!

Aaaaarrrrrrgggggg!!!!!!!
 
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