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Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

Do you have any indication that the entire group subscribed to the loon's radical methods? Seems like if it were a group thing, there would be more than 1 of them present at the murder. :shrug:
I hope everyone realizes that there are more than one "Minutemen" group.
 
I hope everyone realizes that there are more than one "Minutemen" group.

It's been a big point of contention to the "let's paint all conservative/anti-illegal immigration/anyone-who-isn't-a-bat****-crazy-extreme-leftist-loon with the same broad brush" crowd.
 
Gee... I thought it used to be called a MURDER! Now, if he had blown up the church with all those people in it to get to Tiller, then I'd agree with terrorism.

Yup ! It just be one of them old fashioned murders. It don't matter none that the murder was done to terrorize doctors into not performing abortions by killing off one of them. Would you not consider the Museum Guy a terrorist since he went into the Holocaust Musuem to either kill and/or intimidate Jews and or Blacks.

Single lynchings in the Southland of Blacks which only eneded a few decades ago was intended to intimidate Blacks via the terror of the hanging.

Aren't all of these criminal acts! Just becasue they ae criminal acts that does not men that they are not terroist acts.

The way to dtermine waht is a terrorist act is by intent. If the intent is to intimidate someone or a group by criminal means, for political, racial, and I would say even economic reason that is terror.
 
Yup ! It just be one of them old fashioned murders. It don't matter none that the murder was done to terrorize doctors into not performing abortions by killing off one of them. Would you not consider the Museum Guy a terrorist since he went into the Holocaust Musuem to either kill and/or intimidate Jews and or Blacks.

Single lynchings in the Southland of Blacks which only eneded a few decades ago was intended to intimidate Blacks via the terror of the hanging.

Aren't all of these criminal acts! Just becasue they ae criminal acts that does not men that they are not terroist acts.

The way to dtermine waht is a terrorist act is by intent. If the intent is to intimidate someone or a group by criminal means, for political, racial, and I would say even economic reason that is terror.

Has it been established through the diligence of the prosecution that he did this to scare the other two doctors?
 
Gee... I thought it used to be called a MURDER! Now, if he had blown up the church with all those people in it to get to Tiller, then I'd agree with terrorism.

Look up the definition of terrorism and get back with me when you do. I wasn't aware terrorism had to kill multiple people to be called terrorism.
 
I saw more on the recruiter being killed than I have so far on this story. Let's keep the partisanship out of this on both sides, it is just stupid.

People who are inherently partisan will always try to believe that the media brings only bad stuff about their sacred cows or favorite flavor of poltical party.

I really am beginning to think that your hard core Republicans will not be happy unless and until "the media" does nothing but "eport" evry day that all Democrats are perverts, homosexuals, wife beaters, Communists, slave traders, over-weight, chain smoking pick pockets, tree hugging pig farmers, thhey will not be happy.
 
People who are inherently partisan will always try to believe that the media brings only bad stuff about their sacred cows or favorite flavor of poltical party.

I really am beginning to think that your hard core Republicans will not be happy unless and until "the media" does nothing but "eport" evry day that all Democrats are perverts, homosexuals, wife beaters, Communists, slave traders, over-weight, chain smoking pick pockets, tree hugging pig farmers, thhey will not be happy.

You're totally right.

There's this weird defensive posturing that goes up with every one of these stories. They don't even say, "How horrible, what can we do to help." They immediately go to this deflecting even the most remote association to calling the media out on something they haven't done.

A few commentators have tried to make connections I don't think are helpful to be making, but overall, the coverage I've seen has been objective and doesn't try to unfairly associate these individuals with mainstream Republicans.
 
Your thread title is a bit indigenous. According the the A.P.:
Forde is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a small border watch group, and Bush goes by the nickname "Gunny" and is its operations director, according to the group's Web site. She is from Everett, Wash., has recently been living in Arizona and was once associated with the better known and larger Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.
emphasis added

In other words, a splinter group.
 
She is the executive director of a Minuteman group. How is that not a minuteman leader?




A lot of native Americans have a drinking problem, in fact on christmas 1992 Gordon House killed a family driving the wrong way on I-40, drunk.


Aren't you a Native American? Why do native Americans drive drunk and kill families?



I hope this clears up your silly attempt to associate these savages with simcox's group.
 
The leader of the Minute Men did this? Ahahahaha. Oh my. This is like David Duke going psycho on a bunch of black preschoolers. Or finding a dead white girl in Sharpton's car. Or a Jewish senior citizen hanging from Farrakhan's front yard. I mean....can you ask for anything more ironic? Life is one cynical bitch. You spend your entire life saying that teh mexicunz are criminals and you end up being one yourself. I think the only thing that would make this thing even more ironic is if they get sent to one of those Mexican infested jails in Texas. Oh my oh my. I can already see half a Chavas squadron riding a train on his ass. Oh my, oh my, oh my.
 
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The leader of the Minute Men did this? Ahahahaha. Oh my. This is like David Duke going psycho on a bunch of black preschoolers. Or finding a dead white girl in Sharpton's car. Or a Jewish senior citizen hanging from Farrakhan's front yard. I mean....can you ask for anything more ironic? Life is one cynical bitch.

Read the rest of the thread. And then you will understand my new user title. ;)
 
The founder of the Minute Men did this? Ahahahaha. This is like David Duke going psycho on a bunch of black preschoolers. Or finding a dead white girl in Sharpton's car. Or a Jewish senior citizen hanging from Farrakhan's front yard. I mean....can you ask for anything more ironic? Life is one cynical bitch. Oh my.

No, no.

A founder, of A small group calling themselves "Minutemen America Defense" (who was also a former member of a larger and likely less radical group which also had "Minutemen" in it's name), was arrested for being part of this. Not convicted, as of yet.
 
No, no.

A founder, of A small group calling themselves "Minutemen America Defense" (who was also a former member of a larger and likely less radical group which also had "Minutemen" in it's name), was arrested for being part of this. Not convicted, as of yet.

Apologies. I didn't read that far into the thread. Oh well. I guess it's the difference between the New Black Panthers and the Black Panthers. People think it's the same group but only because the distinction isn't really made in the articles.
 
Your thread title is a bit indigenous. According the the A.P.:
emphasis added

In other words, a splinter group.

I apologize I was just following the BN rule that you have to put the title of the article in the thread title thats how Raw Story had it
 
How far away where the police from her house? If cops got to my house in 18 minutes, they would have been hauling ass.

At 6 minutes the operator said they had people in the area.

To be honest, I don't know where the police were that it took them 18 minutes to show up at her place.
 
At 6 minutes the operator said they had people in the area.

To be honest, I don't know where the police were that it took them 18 minutes to show up at her place.

Hmmm. Maybe its not where the police were, but where they lived.
 
Oh, and which part was unfair?

A group, of three, Minutemen, were arrested for murdering a drug dealer AND HIS 9 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER while trying to rob the said drug dealer to get a pile of money to further their cause.

Are they not right wing extremists?

No. Nothing extreme about sitting on the border calling the cops when wetbacks try to invade.

Is a neighborhood watch program "extreme"? Nope. Neither are the Minutemen.


Did they not murder an innocent?

By the definition of the word "innocent", they whacked two.

To further their cause?

Motive was unspecified, outside of "to get money and drugs". The intended use for these was not stated.

Did not Republicans demand Napolitano apologize for a report that predicted this very thing?

He still should.

Stereotyping is bad when applied to black people, according to the libs.

Gues what? It's also bad when applied to others.

In the past month, hasn't there been a HUGE upswing in right wing domestic terrorist activity?

No.
 
The AP story makes it clear, these people, group of 3, killed two people to further their group's cause, hoping to get money from a drug dealer to make thier group more "sophisticated".

Quote the line that says exactly that.
 
As the finger pointing and defensive posturing begins--keep in mind a little girl is dead.

She was the only innocent person in that house and she is dead.

Maybe we could acknowledge the tragedy of a child's death long enough for the Left to lower its fingers and the Right to agree that maybe they could help keep any eye on a few folks... something good can come of this.

Sounds fair.

We need to keep an eye on the politicians, because if the politicians were doing their job there would be absolutely no need for citizens to organize groups to watch the damn border to catch invaders and get them arrested.

Since none of those groups are extremist (it's extreme to want invaders in your nation sent back where they came from?), it in no ways substantiating a racial profiling memo put out by a partisan extremist in Washington intent on painting everyday citizens as fit subjects for law enforcement profiling.

Given that these same people promoting this silly notion that Americans with Ron Paul bumper stickers and military veterans are possible extremist are the same people who screamed hissy fits and **** out rainbow turds in protest at the thought of profiling muslim extremists, their opinions aren't worth those rainbow turds and they should be watched most carefully for as long as they continue to use my oxygen.
 
NEW OPERATIONS DIRECTOR

We are honored to have Gunny aboard. He served 6 tours over seas, where he has several medals. He received a Purple heart, Silver and Bronze star, Combat Infantry Badge and a Presidential citation for his actions in the Special Forces. He will be in charge of all operations along the Southern Border, assisting in command decisions, Recon and Tactical training. Gunny will be permanently located at MAD'S new 40 acre Base Camp, located somewhere on the Southern Border

At this time, we cant release a picture of Gunny due to Operational Security

Some words from Gunny:

My goal as Operations Director for MAD is this:
Keep it simple, keep it as safe as possible, stop the infiltration and everyone comes home.
I take a very hard line with drugs and illegal immigration. Make no bones about it, I have a zero tolerance for terrorists, and that is what they are.
I'm not going to waste anyone's time repeating the same old stuff we have all heard. But i will say this: THIS IS MY COUNTRY. THIS IS YOUR COUNTRY. DEFEND IT OR LOSE IT. PERIOD.


For now I am being referred to as "Gunny". My personal information is being withheld for security reasons...I am about to have a big bullseye on me and i don't want retaliation to reach my family. My goal is to bring the full force of our collective abilities down on the bad guys. this will make waves.


I don't believe that sitting on the border with a beer, binoculars and a lawn chair is going to do a lot. they move the big stuff at night. we need boots on the ground, recon, surveillance and ACTION if we are to stop them.

There's a discrepancy here. A Gunny or a Gunnery Sergeant or a GySgt is a Marine rank. A Marine is awarded the Combat Action Ribbon. A soldier in the Army is awarded the Combat Infantry Badge.
 
There's a discrepancy here. A Gunny or a Gunnery Sergeant or a GySgt is a Marine rank. A Marine is awarded the Combat Action Ribbon. A soldier in the Army is awarded the Combat Infantry Badge.

It's a code name. They're super secret.
 
It's a code name. They're super secret.


Well if he was awarded the Combat Infantry Badge then he is obviously Army. If a "code name" was to be used, why choose a rank from another branch?
 
Well if he was awarded the Combat Infantry Badge then he is obviously Army. If a "code name" was to be used, why choose a rank from another branch?

I didn't say they were smart. :mrgreen:
 
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