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Air France a terrorist attack after all?

Erod said:
Terror Names Linked To Doomed Flight AF 447: Two Passengers Shared Names Of Radical Muslims | World News | Sky News


So was this more than just a pilot error or bad storm? Something about it has been fishy from the outset.

I really hope they can find those black boxes.
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If the title ends with a question mark, the answer is no.

Two passengers with names linked to Islamic terrorism were on the Air France flight which crashed with the loss of 228 lives, it has emerged
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The people weren't linked to terrorism - their names were. Sounds like the french version of "John Smith is on the terror watch list" to me
 
Two Air France Passenger Names Probed for Terror Links - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

Two names on doomed Air France Flight 447's passenger list also appear on a list of radical Muslims considered a threat to France, according to French investigators.

French secret servicemen established the connection while working through the list of those who boarded the doomed Airbus in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on May 31.
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You'd think such a thing would have been caught and investigated pre-boarding. :doh
 
Erod said:
Terror Names Linked To Doomed Flight AF 447: Two Passengers Shared Names Of Radical Muslims | World News | Sky News


So was this more than just a pilot error or bad storm? Something about it has been fishy from the outset.

I really hope they can find those black boxes.
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weeehoooo! reckless speculation! I heard that Osama Bin Laden and the ghost of Saddam Husein were the terrorists on board. They were looking to fly the plane into Big Ben, but it was spoiled by Scooby Doo who died heroically in a water grave due to his meddling in others affairs.
 
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I was put off by the SkyNews link, but now I find the story on DebkaFile, the Israeli intelligence site.

DEBKAfile's counter-terror sources report that in the last few months Paris has received several threats of an impending al Qaeda mega-attack against a French city on the lines of the hijacked airliners which struck New York and Washington on September 11, 2001. The jihadis were bent on punishing president Nicolas Sarkozy for posting fresh French troops to Afghanistan.

Should further investigations connect the two Muslim passengers to this conspiracy, it would go far to indicate that the Air France flight was destined to crash over Paris - except that the plan misfired and the plane came down sooner than planned over the Atlantic.

According to our sources, the French flight crews warned of the plot might have succeeded into pre-empting it by an extraordinary act of bravery to crash the plane in the ocean before it reached France.

Alternatively, the two purported terrorists may have been on a suicide operation like the Egyptian Airline pilot who brought his Boeing 767 into the Atlantic off the US coast on March 31, 1999.
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DEBKAfile - Two radical Muslims identified on crashed Air France flight
 
With the paucity of hard data, there is little to hold back speculation.

At this juncture, terrorism cannot be affirmatively ruled out as a possible cause of the crash.

However, all such speculation comes with the caveat that there is no firm evidence to support terrorism either.

All of this is speculation. No more and no less.

The only correct answer to the question is "We do not know."
 
celticlord said:
With the paucity of hard data, there is little to hold back speculation.

At this juncture, terrorism cannot be affirmatively ruled out as a possible cause of the crash.

However, all such speculation comes with the caveat that there is no firm evidence to support terrorism either.

All of this is speculation. No more and no less.

The only correct answer to the question is "We do not know."
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The big news reporters like BBC and the CNN would have taken this more seriously if it had any bases of truth, and wasnt just mere speculation. I think this would have been conclusive evidence if this were the case but i find it hard to believe there was any radical muslims on board. Everything points to a faulty system. This thread belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.
 
kaya'08 said:
The big news reporters like BBC and the CNN would have taken this more seriously if it had any bases of truth, and wasnt just mere speculation. I think this would have been conclusive evidence if this were the case but i find it hard to believe there was any radical muslims on board. Everything points to a faulty system. This thread belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.
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Unless of they where holidaying to France of course. :shock:
 
kaya'08 said:
The big news reporters like BBC and the CNN would have taken this more seriously if it had any bases of truth, and wasnt just mere speculation. I think this would have been conclusive evidence if this were the case but i find it hard to believe there was any radical muslims on board. Everything points to a faulty system. This thread belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.
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Why do you find it hard to believe there were radical Muslims on board?
 
Hatuey said:
Why do you find it hard to believe there were radical Muslims on board?
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Because French and Brazilian aviation authorities wouldnt be entertaining an aircraft failure. Radical muslims on board? That would be totally conclusive, unless of course, i have already said, they just so happen to be going to France at the time. These are just all little side reporters speculating certain possibilities. I admit, it is a possibiltiy however, just highly unlikely.
 
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Hatuey said:
Why do you find it hard to believe there were radical Muslims on board?
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It's believable.

What's not believable is that there were terrorists on board.

  1. No terrorist organization has claimed credit.
  2. The crash occurred just to the left of the middle of nowhere.
Terrorists tend to be something of publicity whores.
 
celticlord said:
It's believable.

What's not believable is that there were terrorists on board.

  1. No terrorist organization has claimed credit.
  2. The crash occurred just to the left of the middle of nowhere.
Terrorists tend to be something of publicity whores.
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Exactly...
 
Hatuey said:
Why do you find it hard to believe there were radical Muslims on board?
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Of course there could be radical Muslims on board but what point is there is blowing yourself and everyone else up - if you don't let people know that is what you have done and give your dire warnings and what not.

Unless or until that happens there is no reason to believe anything
 
celticlord said:
It's believable.

What's not believable is that there were terrorists on board.

  1. No terrorist organization has claimed credit.
  2. The crash occurred just to the left of the middle of nowhere.
Terrorists tend to be something of publicity whores.
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I cannot find the information, but I do recall either an attempt or an actual commute plane crash into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and it being linked to Terrorism.

Now, as my previous post mentioned, I do not believe this was an organization of the likes of Al Qaeda, but we cannot rule out the possibility of it being fundamentalists whom were put up to it by their "buddys".

We seem to hear "Islamic Terrorism" and we immediately look toward the Middle-East Terror Organizations.
 
Arch Enemy said:
Now, as my previous post mentioned, I do not believe this was an organization of the likes of Al Qaeda, but we cannot rule out the possibility of it being fundamentalists whom were put up to it by their "buddys".
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We cannot rule out the possibility of God sitting at his computer pressing the "Smite" button either.

Such is the problem with speculation in the absence of hard data.
 
celticlord said:
We cannot rule out the possibility of God sitting at his computer pressing the "Smite" button either.
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That son of a bitch! I knew it was him all along. God...the ultimate terrorist.
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kaya'08 said:
Arent all known muslim extremists blacklisted on the system?
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America's DHS has a no-fly list that includes many muslim extremists. This flight was going from Brazil to France. I don't know what security measures those countries take, but I don't think they have access to/check passengers against our terror watch list
 
Kernel Sanders said:
America's DHS has a no-fly list that includes many muslim extremists. This flight was going from Brazil to France. I don't know what security measures those countries take, but I don't think they have access to/check passengers against our terror watch list
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But France does, and they check all outgoing and incoming flights?
 
kaya'08 said:
But France does, and they check all outgoing and incoming flights?
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All countries have their own lists of people either not wanted or to be watched when entering said country. Hence France has its own list, the UK, Spain and so on.
 
PeteEU said:
All countries have their own lists of people either not wanted or to be watched when entering said country. Hence France has its own list, the UK, Spain and so on.
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Does france's include extremists or just run-of-the-mill persona non grata?
 
PeteEU said:
All countries have their own lists of people either not wanted or to be watched when entering said country. Hence France has its own list, the UK, Spain and so on.
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Well then as i have already said, surely if this was true, France would have spotted this out before and ended this mystery of "was it a system failure?", "bad weather", etc. And it also wouldnt be subject to petty small time news reporters and not main stream media.
 
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