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BNP leader pelted in egg protest

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BNP leader Nick Griffin has been pelted with eggs and forced to abandon a press conference outside Parliament.

Dozens of protesters disrupted the event, which follows the British National Party winning its first two seats in the European Parliament.

Chanting anti-Nazi slogans and holding placards they surrounded Mr Griffin as he was bundled into a car.

Mr Griffin was elected for the North West region - a result condemned by parties across the political spectrum.

BBC NEWS | Politics | BNP leader pelted in egg protest

He was met by angry ant-fascist protesters and union members who do not believe he has the right for free speech.

It is an interesting situation. I know my own daughter who knows little of politics could not believe it when she heard they were standing for the European Parliament. She felt they should not be allowed to stand.

I have to admit I feel quite pleased when I see this towards the BNP.

He himself of course will be demanding more protection.
 
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Throwing Eggs crosses the line. I fully support protesting jackasses like the BNP but suppressing speech with violence is not acceptable. Let him speak his nonsense, and than verbally attack him.
 
He was met by angry ant-fascist protesters and union members who do not believe he has the right for free speech.


I have to admit I feel quite pleased when I see this towards the BNP.

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Yeah -- societies that stand against free speech are to be admired. :roll:
 
Throwing Eggs crosses the line. I fully support protesting jackasses like the BNP but suppressing speech with violence is not acceptable. Let him speak his nonsense, and than verbally attack him.

Yes the throwing of eggs is crossing a line and I am not usually one for violence. I just can't help myself feeling pleased when there is an angry protest against them. When he arrived for the election results there were people waiting and shouting 'Nazi thug'

They were clearly very angry.

Up until now there has not been any proper investigation by the media - probing questions and such like. He has just been able to say his propaganda...

It does though I think beg a question about them being able to stand. That is underneath the propaganda most of us are aware of who they are and if they were honest they would be arrested for some of their views.

It will be interesting to see how it develops.
 
Protect yourself using your own damn money Griffin. Maybe get some of your Nazi friends to surround you

I'll admit i'm amused as hell by this. :2wave:
 
Yeah -- societies that stand against free speech are to be admired. :roll:

Free speech also requires honest speech.

We do have laws about holocaust deniers here. We also have laws about 'incitement to violence' and racism

The BNP falls foul of of these but has learned to be clever how it presents itself.

No one is complaining about free speech except where that free speech is an incitement to harm others.

If that is a problem with you, that is your problem.
 
Free speech also requires honest speech.

Since when? The only acceptable limits on free speech are actual threats against a specific individual's life and slander or defamation against a specific individual's reputation or business.

Who says speech has to be honest? If that were really the case, every single politician in the free world would be barred for life from speaking in public ever again. :lol::lol:
 
It does though I think beg a question about them being able to stand. That is underneath the propaganda most of us are aware of who they are and if they were honest they would be arrested for some of their views.

It will be interesting to see how it develops.

Exactly.
If they were honest about their views, they'd be in jail for inciting racial hatred

When he did a speech with KKK, He said we agree with everything they say but "there is a difference between selling out and selling"

He repackaged BNP but it is no better than KKK or Nazis. He just uses "indigenous population" and acts like he is speaking up for Christians in the country
 
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antifa are just as bad as their opposition, worse probably because they only give them legitimacy. "Black blocs" and all the rest of that street squaddism crap is completely counter-productive.
 
antifa are just as bad as their opposition, worse probably because they only give them legitimacy. "Black blocs" and all the rest of that street squaddism crap is completely counter-productive.

We should just ignore them.

I see why it is bad but lets be logically.
They only got in because of low turnout not because people actually agreed with them. [I'm sure some of them do]
We all should just calm down and stop acting like it's the end of the world
 
"Arrested for some of their views" ?? Are you for real?

Arrested??

For thinking and daring to speak ideas out loud?


oooo boy...

No, for what they do not say but what is well documented.
 
Amazing how if you want to ban flag burning , take down some anti-American trash propped up as art on tax payer funded property or jail journalist who knowingly air classified information the leftist are ready to scream we have a right to free speech. But someone with opposing views wants to speak then their attitude is shout him down or drive him out.Kids wants to bring a bible to school or pray is screw him. Cross on war memorial screw them. Its seems the only free speech that matters to leftist is their own. Just look at the stories involving Army recruiters,marine recruiters, conservative politicians,conservative speakers, anti-illegal immigration groups. They called everything from hate monger,war monger to racist and none of those words are true.

I actually had to look up wikipedia to see if the BNP are racist,nazis or fascist that the leftist are trying to portray them as because usually leftist like to lie about their opponents. And for ounce they were correct about a group they oppose, I guess a broken clock can be right once or twice a day. Regardless of their views if you actually believe in free speech not just the free speech of those who agree with you agree with then you will let these people talk.
 
We should just ignore them.

I see why it is bad but lets be logically.
They only got in because of low turnout not because people actually agreed with them. [I'm sure some of them do]
We all should just calm down and stop acting like it's the end of the world

It's so much worse in the US because here it's even more of a stupid game (although in Europe it's pretty much a stupid game too) because we don't have any serious fascist movements here (other then the Republicans :2razz:).

So American SHARP Skins and Black Blocs in Seattle to go "bash the fash" (i.e. overturn trash cans and irritate police) are acting so unbelievably self indulgent.
 
It's so much worse in the US because here it's even more of a stupid game (although in Europe it's pretty much a stupid game too) because we don't have any serious fascist movements here (other then the Republicans :2razz:).

So American SHARP Skins and Black Blocs in Seattle to go "bash the fash" (i.e. overturn trash cans and irritate police) are acting so unbelievably self indulgent.

US has it better.
You have a two horse race which stops such idiots getting into power.

Over here because PR is used in EU elections it enables such groups to enter. Never thought i'd miss majority systems.
 
US has it better.
You have a two horse race which stops such idiots getting into power.

Over here because PR is used in EU elections it enables such groups to enter. Never thought i'd miss majority systems.

no, our far-right actually wins elections.

the US doesn't have "street fascism", our psychotic hypernationalists operate out of the pulpit, which is a lot more dangerous.
 
You wan to arrest them for non-speech?
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Come ON!!! You're having a laugh now.
:rofl


They would be arrested for their views and their actions. However they have been very clever in being deceptive.

I've been trying to find some information from their website through 'back in time' which I found before which would illustrate this very well but there is a lot to look through and it is not impossible they have removed it.

It would give you some idea of what I am talking about.

If a pedophile wanted to work with children and said they loved them and you knew what they meant by them saying that, you could say they would be arrested if the truth were known.

It is similar to that. We do know the truth. The media knows the truth but the BNP are very clever at the moment in their presentation. When as does happen a Member is caught in action they will describe that person as a 'bad apple'. They have a heck of a lot of bad apples.

If you want to find out more about them you can find it here

The real BNP: Scratch the surface and you find the same old racist organisation
 
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It does though I think beg a question about them being able to stand. That is underneath the propaganda most of us are aware of who they are and if they were honest they would be arrested for some of their views.
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I find this far more disturbing than his views. This is one way in which America is still preferable to the UK. We allow our racists to make themselves publicly ridiculous, without arresting them. And, personally, I have fewer problems with a loud racist than I do with a government deciding what speech is acceptable, and what isn't.
 
If a pedophile wanted to work with children and said they loved them and you knew what they meant by them saying that, you could say they would be arrested if the truth were known.

Actually, you are mistaken here. Unless they had actually committed a crime, simply BEING a pedophile (someone who is sexually attracted to children) is NOT a crime. It's a mental disorder.

This idea that people should be ARRESTED for having unpopular or even ugly opinions is simply frightening and absurd, to this American, at least.
 
Throwing Eggs crosses the line. I fully support protesting jackasses like the BNP but suppressing speech with violence is not acceptable. Let him speak his nonsense, and than verbally attack him.

Sorry i disagree. These guys are a bunch of racist idiots. Though i totally respect there right to free speech, if its motivated by racism and hatred for other minorities in the UK, then i think it should be met with such treatment, and in most cases, supressed, the way they intend to supress the rights of non-whites and the free speech of everybody else.

To be honest, this incident makes me feel alot better about this country.
 
Actually, you are mistaken here. Unless they had actually committed a crime, simply BEING a pedophile (someone who is sexually attracted to children) is NOT a crime. It's a mental disorder.

This idea that people should be ARRESTED for having unpopular or even ugly opinions is simply frightening and absurd, to this American, at least.

True but if they were in private getting up to their pedophile activity they would be arrested. That is the situation with the BNP.
 
True but if they were in private getting up to their pedophile activity they would be arrested. That is the situation with the BNP.

The BNP is molesting children? Or they are racists? The one is illegal, the other shouldn't be.
 
I find this far more disturbing than his views. This is one way in which America is still preferable to the UK. We allow our racists to make themselves publicly ridiculous, without arresting them. And, personally, I have fewer problems with a loud racist than I do with a government deciding what speech is acceptable, and what isn't.

Maybe, maybe not. However it is absolutely true that changes in laws around 2000/2001 which they had to change their speech for has been an enormous advantage to them. They have changed the way they talk and as such they are not speaking the truth and it appears have fooled some people - others may just have wanted to be fooled.

It was their instructions on this that I was trying to find.
 
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