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N Korea Violates S Korean Waters

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NKorea violates SKorean waters amid high tension - Yahoo! News

"SEOUL, South Korea – South Korea said a North Korean patrol boat entered its waters around their disputed maritime border Thursday but backed off after nearly an hour following repeated warnings. A senior American diplomat meanwhile cautioned Pyongyang that its bad behavior would no longer be rewarded."

Rewarded? Rewarded with what? More American military blunders like invading Iraq?

I guess this means we won't be invading Syria :roll:
 
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Great thread except for you comment. NK is making a mistake I believe. I don't think it will be the US that finally reacts to these threats. It will be someone like Japan.
 
Traditionally, NK has been rewarded for bad behavior with better concessions during agreements over their nuclear weapons. That is, the U.S. and others provide more aid to the DPRK in order for them to behave.

Finally this may perhaps stop. Kim Jong-il simply is making waves to prevent anything coming between his son's ascension to power. I have no doubt he fears that were he on his deathbed, his enemies, as he sees them, may attempt a coup, therefor he is warning the world of NK's potential in order to ensure his son's succession.
 
Great thread except for you comment. NK is making a mistake I believe. I don't think it will be the US that finally reacts to these threats. It will be someone like Japan.

Japan's constitution won't allow it and they expect the U.S. do something. As far as my comment, the U.S. is only going to invade countries that don't have a large military to defend itself. The Bush administration knew there were no WMD's in Iraq and that their military was shakey at best.
 
Japan's constitution won't allow it and they expect the U.S. do something. As far as my comment, the U.S. is only going to invade countries that don't have a large military to defend itself. The Bush administration knew there were no WMD's in Iraq and that their military was shakey at best.

Japan has been having debates in the Diet over changing their Constitution in order to once again allow for a military. The U.S. has been trying to get them to do so for years, but Japan likes the free protection.
 
Traditionally, NK has been rewarded for bad behavior with better concessions during agreements over their nuclear weapons. That is, the U.S. and others provide more aid to the DPRK in order for them to behave.

Finally this may perhaps stop. Kim Jong-il simply is making waves to prevent anything coming between his son's ascension to power. I have no doubt he fears that were he on his deathbed, his enemies, as he sees them, may attempt a coup, therefor he is warning the world of NK's potential in order to ensure his son's succession.

Well, I'm sick of the posturing. Both from N Korea and the conservatives here that swear up and down that the 'leftist commies' are taking over America. This is the real deal here not just the regurgetation of some fat, white pundit's hate speech. If the Conservative's here had any shred of understanding regarding what it means to fight for freedom (or any real balls) they'd be on board with military action.
 
Japan has been having debates in the Diet over changing their Constitution in order to once again allow for a military. The U.S. has been trying to get them to do so for years, but Japan likes the free protection.

I know and their people are very much against changing it. Japan does have a 'Defense Force' they even train with U.S. Marines.
 
Japan's constitution won't allow it and they expect the U.S. do something. As far as my comment, the U.S. is only going to invade countries that don't have a large military to defend itself. The Bush administration knew there were no WMD's in Iraq and that their military was shakey at best.
Please try to stay on topic.
 
Japan has been having debates in the Diet over changing their Constitution in order to once again allow for a military. The U.S. has been trying to get them to do so for years, but Japan likes the free protection.
Yes I know about Article 9. They need to change it, it's intent is obsolete.
 
If the Conservative's here had any shred of understanding regarding what it means to fight for freedom (or any real balls) they'd be on board with military action.

You want to talk about a Commie take over of America? The only freedom we'd have left to fight for if we undertook military action in North Korea is the freedom to stand in line for bread. We can't afford another theater like Afghanistan or Iraq, and for as outdated as their technology is, North Korea would be much more expensive.

How much more do you think this country can afford?
 
As far as my comment, the U.S. is only going to invade countries that don't have a large military to defend itself.
I'm curious... why do you think the US would necessarily need to invade NK?
 
In context with everything else coming out of Pyongyang, I have no idea how you can make that statement.

Everything that has happened in the past few months has been an attempt to inflate the power of the North Korean state, and has not been a direct attempt at provocation. Based on "everything else coming out of Pyongyang," it's pretty obvious to say that this wasn't.
 
Everything that has happened in the past few months has been an attempt to inflate the power of the North Korean state, and has not been a direct attempt at provocation. Based on "everything else coming out of Pyongyang," it's pretty obvious to say that this wasn't.

So . . . this was what?
 
I'm curious... why do you think the US would necessarily need to invade NK?

Would it be invading with these blatant violations of the cease fire? The Korean war isn't over.
 
Would it be invading with these blatant violations of the cease fire? The Korean war isn't over.
This doesnt answer my question.
Why do you think the US would necessarily need to invade NK?
 
You want to talk about a Commie take over of America? The only freedom we'd have left to fight for if we undertook military action in North Korea is the freedom to stand in line for bread. We can't afford another theater like Afghanistan or Iraq, and for as outdated as their technology is, North Korea would be much more expensive.

How much more do you think this country can afford?

I think we could pull most of our military out of Iraq at this point. If things go sour we'll have to get back in later. Yeah we're broke, we were broke when Hitler invaded Poland and Japan destroyed our Navy. So we enlist, we manufacture, we sacrifice, we buy war bonds and start victory gardens.

But there's no profit in it for us, no natural resource to exploit or cronies that would benefit. The world's governments are so corrupt, there is already no hope and we'll be standing in the bread line anyway.
 
This doesnt answer my question.
Why do you think the US would necessarily need to invade NK?

Sanctions obviously aren't working. If the U.S. doesn't invade, which I agree isn't an option really, the Navy could at least provide a blockade and shoot down their missle tests.
 
Sanctions obviously aren't working. If the U.S. doesn't invade, which I agree isn't an option really, the Navy could at least provide a blockade and shoot down their missle tests.
OK -- STILL not answering the question...

You seem fixated on the idea that because we invaded Iraq, we much also invade North Korea. How does that necessarily follow?
 
This doesnt answer my question.
Why do you think the US would necessarily need to invade NK?

If it came down to war a full scale invasion would be needed to prevent a massive influx of North Koreans into South Korea and China after the regime fell.
 
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