• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Cop Pulls Over Ambulance Carrying Patient To Hospital For “Failure To Yield”

Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

That's a police officer that needs to be driving a desk or off the force.

I agree. I find this story plausible because my husband once had an encounter with a cop who was verbally abusive towards him in a traffic stop. The cop wrote him up for "failure to yield" and running a yellow light (illegal in that jurisdiction). The only traffic law I've ever seen my husband break is speeding, and I'm inclined to believe his denial of having done what he was ticketed for. He is, except for the speeding, a good and safe driver, and the two of us get "good driver" discounts for our auto insurance.

He challenged the citations in traffic court, and the cop apparently lied under oath and accused my husband of almost hitting a child in the intersection. The judge dismissed one charge and let the other stand - but without putting points on his driving record.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

It's not that he pulled over the ambulance that bothers me, it's the comments about use of force. Having someone make an obscene gesture does not warrant use of force. And, a guy who thinks otherwise lacks the maturity and common sense for the job.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

When I click the link, the comp asks me to either select a program to open it with (and I know this comp doesn't have it), or to go online to find the program.

The second option...well that has yet to work in my entire life...at least without a credit card number ;)

I'm not paying for Adobey, or players, or plug-ins, or anything like that.

It is free software: Adobe - Adobe Reader download - All versions
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

It's not that he pulled over the ambulance that bothers me, it's the comments about use of force. Having someone make an obscene gesture does not warrant use of force. And, a guy who thinks otherwise lacks the maturity and common sense for the job.

I was thinking the same way. Those cops must just have overreacted because they don't like black people. And if no one likes it watch out before officer buffy gets you in a choke hold.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

I was thinking the same way. Those cops must just have overreacted because they don't like black people. And if no one likes it watch out before officer buffy gets you in a choke hold.

You had to say it and now we have to buckle up for a whole new level of roller coaster bs. :lol:
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

Youtube should pull this video. The comments are disgusting and racist!
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

Youtube should pull this video. The comments are disgusting and racist!

good lord the comments are vile, you are right. I just don't understand what possesses some people.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

I was thinking the same way. Those cops must just have overreacted because they don't like black people. And if no one likes it watch out before officer buffy gets you in a choke hold.

:stop::stop::stop:

:2no4:
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

Yea, cause most cops are really likely to tell someone "Hey, just so you know, I got so angry back there that I decided I was going to pull out my weapon and kill you for no reason. I'm not angry anymore, I'm just telling you that so you can go get me fired. Have a good one."

I'm believing this story less and less as it goes on.
You can frame in it in a silly light like that, but I'm going to go ahead and take the guy's word who was there over yours.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

A question that I have for our law enforcment authorities is this. Since when did placing your hands around someones neck and applying great force obviously causing them to choke become an accepted police defensive and arrest tactic? In my opinion such use of force constitutes reckless endangerment.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

From what I see in the comments its just one pathetic little troll. Its very common on race based YouTube videos.

I think that is why I largely avoid reading comments there. It really is sad that freedom of speech means that some people are going to use it to be asses.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

Let's say this person was having a heart attack or a stroke or some other potentially fatal condition... Those minutes of the cop writing out a ticket could turn fatal.

The EMT told the cops to meet him at the hospital to sort things out, as it should have been...

Cops do have a tough job, that is all the more reason to DEMAND a level of professionalism from those that are charged to protect and serve. To be honest, I'd feel safer knowing that cops like that cannot keep their jobs very long.

Had that been the case, the ambulance would have been transporting priority and would have had lights and siren on, and this would not have been an issue.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

Yea, cause most cops are really likely to tell someone "Hey, just so you know, I got so angry back there that I decided I was going to pull out my weapon and kill you for no reason. I'm not angry anymore, I'm just telling you that so you can go get me fired. Have a good one."

I'm believing this story less and less as it goes on.

Yes, this part struck me as strange, and possibly made up.

I don't think any officer of the law would have said something so ****ing stupid, even if he DID think it.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

I watched the video and don't know how the heck anyone would even begin to understand what is happening in the video. None of it makes a lick of sense.

The EMT is transporting his own mother?

The cop is mad 'cause they didn't get out of his way and he's in a rush to get somewhere? How in a rush could he be if he's got time to for this nonsense?

Who the hell knows what is actually happening there? I don't.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

The troopers were douchebags.


/thread
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

:stop::stop::stop:

:2no4:

Ya I guess there aren't many over paranoid racists around here cuz none of um are arguing race. Didn't seem raced based to me. Mostly assed based.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

A question that I have for our law enforcment authorities is this. Since when did placing your hands around someones neck and applying great force obviously causing them to choke become an accepted police defensive and arrest tactic? In my opinion such use of force constitutes reckless endangerment.

Would you rather he taser him? He was restraining a belligerent indvidual who was obstructing an officer.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

Was the siren on the ambulance activated? If not, it's no different than a regular car.
It doesn't matter if the the light is flashing, you cannot break the law. I use to be on a rescue squad.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

I don't know the specifics of the ambulance sirens. Maybe some don't have them on when there is no traffic? My impression was that the siren was for telling traffic to get out of the way, but if it's clear sailing to the hospital then would they still use it?

I still think the police could have given more leeway. Even if the EMTs did something wrong, it's not like they can drive away at high speed to escape the cops, with a patient no less. Given the number of cop cars that showed up, it would have been an easy matter to just escort the ambulance to the hospital to complete its task. Not to mention, even if the EMT did flip off the cop, it's not like this crime was so bad that it couldn't have waited. You'd swear that the ambulance had hostages and bombs by the way the cops were all over it.

But... the law is so bureaucratic and it could be ruled upon differently. I'm just saying, if I were the one deciding on what this situation meant, I would say that the cops could have compromised and got their jobs done.
 
Re: Cop pulls over ambulance

Ya I guess there aren't many over paranoid racists around here cuz none of um are arguing race. Didn't seem raced based to me. Mostly assed based.

I tend to agree with that... but, the cops were seemingly on the verge of leaving the white driver alone and then came back for the black EMT. I really don't know either way though.

BTW, It was the person video taping whose mother was in the ambulance.
 
Attorney defends trooper in Okla. ambulance stop

Attorney defends trooper in Okla. ambulance stop



by SEAN MURPHY, Associated Press Writer Sean Murphy, Associated Press Writer – Mon Jun 15, 10:02 pm ET

OKLAHOMA CITY – Bothered that an ambulance driver failed to yield to him as he raced to provide backup on a call — and angered further when he thought the driver flipped him an obscene gesture — state Trooper Daniel Martin decided to stop the ambulance and give the driver a piece of his mind.


What Martin didn't know then, his lawyer said Monday, was that there was a patient in the back of the ambulance. "He's not this ogre, this depriver of people's rights," the trooper's attorney, Gary James, said. "He's a good man."


Link:Attorney defends trooper in Okla. ambulance stop - Yahoo! News


OPINIONS?

I think the officer over-reacted and stopped an the ambulance just because he could.

The proper way to handle this would have been for the officer to call the ambulance company and file a formal complaint.

Instead, the officer chose to stop the ambulance and assault the veteran paramedic who was caring for the patient.

I just don't buy that the officer didn't realize there was a patient in the ambulance AFTER he was informed of this buy the paramedic who was caring for the patient.

Clearly, the officer should have known better than to stop an ambulance. He should be placed on an unpaid 3 week suspension for his actions.

 
Re: Attorney defends trooper in Okla. ambulance stop

There's already a thread on this with a thorough debate.
 
Re: Attorney defends trooper in Okla. ambulance stop

You can never have enough threads for me to use words like "pigs" and "jackbooted thugs". :mrgreen:
 
Re: Attorney defends trooper in Okla. ambulance stop

There's already a thread on this with a thorough debate.

Where's the thread?

Vader, I agree with you. I watched the footage. As soon as the paramedic told him they had a patient in the back, the trooper should have retracted and let the ambulance go. Frankly, this trooper's anger is over the top. It's one thing if he was dealing with some regular car/driver--but an ambulance? What are the chances that an ambulance is driving around just to drive around? This trooper has some serious anger issues. Threatening violence like a teenager? I hope this publicity and embarrassment will teach him a lesson.
 
Back
Top Bottom