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California Supreme Court Upholds Proposition 8

Goobieman said:
You aren't antagonizing him -- he believes that his vulgarity and lack of civility will make up for the rather impressive lack of content in his posts.

Or that it makes him cute. I can't remember which.
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Are we gonna go back to that problem you have of staying on topic and not discussing me or are we gonna do thread bans again?
 
disneydude said:
Not at all...its called respect for others views. It is possible, believe it or not, to have your own personal views but not feel the need to subject everyone else to them (something that many cannot grasp).
For instance, you can personally believe that Abortion, for example, is wrong and still be pro-choice because you do not believe that you have the right to force others to accept your viewpoint.
You can be anti-gay marriage, but nevertheless be against prop 8 because despite your views, you understand that it is wrong to force that view upon others.
Obama simply understands that his right to his views end when it infringes upon the rights of others. That is a concept that you probably cannot understand.
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Hmm.
Why is it then that you anti-gun fanatics cannot help but try to force your views on us law-abiding gun owners?
 
Truth Detector said:
It is hyperbole, and this makes your arguments credible? :doh



Activist Gays using their emotional hysterics about perceived rights who are trying re-define what marriage is. You would think that you get this by now.
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Why do you believe that YOUR definition of marriage is correct and should be forced upon everyone else? There have been MANY definitions of marriage over the years and there have always been those who felt that their definition was sacred...it didn't make it so.
 
jallman said:
Are we gonna go back to that problem you have of staying on topic and not discussing me or are we gonna do thread bans again?
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No, you're going to get all fussy, and I'm going to laugh at you.
 
jallman said:
No, dude, it's not your fault. It's that it is the default answer that most pro-gay activists give me if I happen to disagree with one small piece of their overall agenda. The nastiest comments I ever get come from liberals who think I have some obligation to lockstep with them on every issue just because of who I am ****ing.

My immediate response to the word "self loathing", in particular, is overkill. :2wave:
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I hear you. I get a very similar reaction from blacks in the Democratic party. The righteous indignation is a laugh riot.
 
disneydude said:
I'm not an anti-gun fanatic so I wouldn't know.
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Yeaaaah.
So, when I point you to some, you'll tell them that their right to their views end when it infringes upon the rights of others.
Right?
 
Blackdog said:
I hear you. I get a very similar reaction from blacks in the Democratic party. The righteous indignation is a laugh riot.
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My favorite is "You're gay and Republican? Isn't that like being black in the KKK?"

My own mother asked me that once. It ended Thanksgiving dinner.
 
jallman said:
As long as you don't derail the thread with it, I couldn't care less. Back to topic?
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I've already posted my opinion on this topic. I dont recall your response.
 
Goobieman said:
Yeaaaah.
So, when I point you to some, you'll tell them that their right to their views end when it infringes upon the rights of others.
Right?
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Absolutely. If someone were trying to ban guns...in the same manner of banning gay marriage, I would agree 100%.
 
jallman said:
My favorite is "You're gay and Republican? Isn't that like being black in the KKK?"

My own mother asked me that once. It ended Thanksgiving dinner.
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You have to admit...Jall....it is kind of a legitimate question considering the GOP's historical positions and treatment of gays.
 
disneydude said:
You have to admit...Jall....it is kind of a legitimate question considering the GOP's historical positions and treatment of gays.
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Can you point me to distinct policy differences between the republicans and democrats that make one more attractive to gays than the other?
 
disneydude said:
Absolutely. If someone were trying to ban guns...in the same manner of banning gay marriage, I would agree 100%.
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Oh... so he has to advocate a BAN.
What happened to "...when it infringes upon the rights of others"?
Infringement comes into play LONG before you get to a ban...
 
jallman said:
Then you simply haven't been reading the thread. Back to topic?
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Yes, yes I have.
And I have not seen your response to post #172 of that thread.
 
jallman said:
Can you point me to distinct policy differences between the republicans and democrats that make one more attractive to gays than the other?
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Well...to begin...I've never seen the Democratic party advocating or pushing for Constitutional Amendments to ban gay marriage.

Look across the board, while people across the board are against gay marriage by a slim margin, the breakdown is extreme when you break it down by party and independents.
 
disneydude said:
Well...to begin...I've never seen the Democratic party advocating or pushing for Constitutional Amendments to ban gay marriage.

Look across the board, while people across the board are against gay marriage by a slim margin, the breakdown is extreme when you break it down by party and independents.
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So uh...what policy differences can you point me to that makes on party more attractive than the other?
 
jallman said:
I have nothing to say on that particular matter. Back to the topic?
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That IS the topic - the court upholding the amendment.
So -- when are YOU going to get on topic?
 
dclxvinoise said:
Actually society already is that way considering that there isn't one particular brand of morality that overrules another. Not everyone believes in the idea of eternal damnation. I certainly don't.
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Once again, relating your personal views on what a majority of religions do believe doesn't make your argument very credible. :roll:
 
jallman said:
So uh...what policy differences can you point me to that makes on party more attractive than the other?
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Republicans across the board are notorious for voting against gay cause, whether it be adoption rights, gays in the military, gay marriage etc.
It has always been Democratic leaders that champion these causes.
 
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This thread is not about any particular poster. Anyone continuing to try and make it about such a thing will get a one way ticket out of this thread after which they can go take their frustrations out about individual posters in the basement.
 
Goobieman said:
That IS the topic - the court upholding the amendment.
So -- when are YOU going to get on topic?
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I've been on topic. I am asking you for the final time to address the thread and not me, in particular. I have nothing to say about whatever small facet you have fixated on this time as it is usually highly irrelevant and wholly uninteresting.
 
disneydude said:
Republicans across the board are notorious for voting against gay cause, whether it be adoption rights, gays in the military, gay marriage etc.
It has always been Democratic leaders that champion these causes.
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So can you point me to any specific policies or not?
 
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