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Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

hazlnut said:
We still talking about Liberty "University"??

Have they banned the Harry Potter Book club?

How do Liberty pre-med students score on their MCATs?? Do they wonder why there are no questions on dinosaurs?;):(
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So Dino was real !!! And Pebbles and BamBam B& arney and Fred knew and walked with and talked to real dinosaurs !! OH MY !!
 
Hatuey said:
A private school created by a radical right wing bigot banning anything left wing? Why are we discussing this again? Let them do what they want. They support the claim that a visible percentage of the Republican party is made up of people trained to hate anything the bible disapproves of. Let all the defenders of this stupidity come at me. ;)
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Certainly.

It is a private institution so they can set the criteria to join or be a member as they see fit.

This has nothing to do with religion the Bible or anything even close. It has to do with private institutions or people being allowed to congregate and think freely.

I think the whole premise behind the school ranks right up there with militant atheists and racists. But I would, and have put my life on the line to defend the right for them to think and speak freely.
 
Blackdog said:
Certainly.

It is a private institution so they can set the criteria to join or be a member as they see fit.

This has nothing to do with religion the Bible or anything even close. It has to do with private institutions or people being allowed to congregate and think freely.
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A school created by Christian radical far right priests and run on a Christian radical far right agenda and you do not think that this is about religion? Please stop trying to fool us. This isn't NYU. It's Liberty University. Do some research on their policies. It's always about religion.

I think the whole premise behind the school ranks right up there with militant atheists and racists. But I would, and have put my life on the line to defend the right for them to think and speak freely.
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I'm getting sick of this 'militant atheist' bs. Please explain what a militant atheist is.
 
Blackdog said:
Certainly.

It is a private institution so they can set the criteria to join or be a member as they see fit.

This has nothing to do with religion the Bible or anything even close. It has to do with private institutions or people being allowed to congregate and think freely.

I think the whole premise behind the school ranks right up there with militant atheists and racists. But I would, and have put my life on the line to defend the right for them to think and speak freely.
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has every thing to do with religion but if it has anything to do with the Bible that is debatable. "Liberty" "University" has every right to restrict the liberties of it's students. The students at "Liberty" "University" knew what they were getting into or their parents knew. "Liberty" "University" was founded to warp, shape, control the thinking and mold the minds of students into the ways of the aims of that so called "Univerisity" .
 
Still waiting for a RNC supporter to

post facts of anyime / anywhee that a Republican CLUB was banned from a University. I am talking about in the US I don't want to know abouts the Brits banning the Irish Republican Army Fan Club at DublIn UNIVERSITY FOR WARM BEER DRINKING.
 
And the club was banned on the grounds that "socialism" was an anti-Christian doctrine? I don't know whether to begin by noting that liberal democratic capitalism inhibits the establishment of socialism or by noting that the early apostles were noted as practicing libertarian communism.

Oftencold said:
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
for that is unprofitable for you.

Hebrews 13:17,
King James Version

Please let me know when next I may instruct you in extremely basic things.
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The passage that you've plucked out of context was a discussion of religious authority. If you'd prefer to become a vassal of Great Britain, of course, be my guest. :roll:
 
Re: Still waiting for a RNC supporter to

RightinNYC said:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...sity-bans-democrat-club-2.html#post1058039134

Is this really that difficult of a concept?
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I didn't think so therefore don't know why the RNC boys are not able to show us if a Repblican Club was banned. You never know I recall the days when the Catholic Jesuits who are religious but politically "left leaning" and I thought that maybe a resourcefull RNC opperative could have Google and Dog Piled and Smerched up a storm and found a case of a US Republican Party College Club being banned !!!

See that I Just about told them where to look for the answer !!! LOL
 
Hatuey said:
A school created by Christian radical far right priests and run on a Christian radical far right agenda and you do not think that this is about religion?
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The issue as discussed here? None at all.

It is about the right of private institutions to set the guide lines for admission or clubs as they see fit.

The person or persons are free to choose another school if they do not want to adhere or agree to the rules.

Hatuey said:
Please stop trying to fool us. This isn't NYU.
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You are correct it is not. Liberty University does not receive government funds for research, NYU does.

Hatuey said:
It's Liberty University. Do some research on their policies. It's always about religion.
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Don't have to. It is completely irrelevant to what is going on. It is a private entity and well within it's rights to make the change.

Hatuey said:
I'm getting sick of this 'militant atheist' bs. Please explain what a militant atheist is.
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Well I hope you feel better soon. :2wave:

Militant Atheist
 
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F107HyperSabr said:
has every thing to do with religion but if it has anything to do with the Bible that is debatable.
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You post that above and then go on with what is below.

Small conterdiction don't you think?

F107HyperSabr said:
"Liberty" "University" has every right to restrict the liberties of it's students. The students at "Liberty" "University" knew what they were getting into or their parents knew. "Liberty" "University" was founded to warp, shape, control the thinking and mold the minds of students into the ways of the aims of that so called "Univerisity" .
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One has nothing to do with the other as I said.
 
Orius said:
The Gaggle : Liberty University Bans Democrat Club



I know it's an editorial but it stems from a real event. If someone can find a better article I'd appreciate it.

I realize this is a private institution so they can do what they want, but I still believe a broader issue is going on here: the politicization of educational institutions. How can you just outright ban a Democrat club on these social fringe issues? It would be like banning the GOP club because you don't support war. As if the GOP never does anything "unchristian".
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Wouldn't this story be the equivalent of a feminist liberal commie pro-Abortion themed(If such a school was open about their beliefs) school banning a conservative group?
 
Blackdog said:
It is about the right of private institutions to set the guide lines for admission or clubs as they see fit.
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So if a university outlawed all blacks to the school that would be legal by you and the government right? After all you are claiming that a private institution has the right to institute policies however it sees fit.
 
TheNextEra said:
So if a university outlawed all blacks to the school that would be legal by you and the government right? After all you are claiming that a private institution has the right to institute policies however it sees fit.
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A straw man argument is not acceptable for reasonable debate.
 
Blackdog said:
A straw man argument is not acceptable for reasonable debate.
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You claimed that a university can set guidelines for admissions or clubs how it sees fit if it is private.
 
TheNextEra said:
You claimed that a university can set guidelines for admissions or clubs how it sees fit if it is private.
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I claimed any private institution can do this. You are trying to say this can somehow ignore the 14th Amendment or get around present laws. It is nothing more than a straw man on your part.

Sorry not going to play that silly game.

Also has nothing to do with my argument. You need to read back and look at it in context.
 
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Blackdog said:
I claimed any private institution can do this. You are trying to say this can somehow ignore the 14th Amendment or get around present laws. It is nothing more than a straw man on your part.

Sorry not going to play that silly game.

Also has nothing to do with my argument. You need to read back and look at it in context.
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Ah so then you admit your claim is FALSE. Thank you for admitting that. A university cannot simply do ANYTHING because it is private.
 
TheNextEra said:
Ah so then you admit your claim is FALSE. Thank you for admitting that. A university cannot simply do ANYTHING because it is private.
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You have got to be kidding? :lol:

Please tell me that is not the best you could come up with to counter my argument?
 
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I guess it was. To bad I had hoped for more than just a fallacy argument.
 
Blackdog said:
You have got to be kidding? :lol:

Please tell me that is not the best you could come up with to counter my argument?
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It is quite clear a private university cannot simply do whatever it wants, so my question is when does the 1st amendment rights of the school end and the 1st amendment rights of the students begins?

Obviously there is a line so where is it?
 
TheNextEra said:
It is quite clear a private university cannot simply do whatever it wants
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I never said it could.

TheNextEra said:
so my question is when does the 1st amendment rights of the school end and the 1st amendment rights of the students begins?
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The students 1st amendment right ends where the institutions private property begins. If they want to attend said university they have to abide by the rules set down by the university, period. Otherwise they have the freedom to choose another school.

TheNextEra said:
Obviously there is a line so where is it?
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The line is clearly marked by the laws of the United States and of the state in which they reside.
 
TheNextEra said:
So if a university outlawed all blacks to the school that would be legal by you and the government right? After all you are claiming that a private institution has the right to institute policies however it sees fit.
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Didn't I already explain this to you?

HINT: There is a difference between discriminating based on politics and discriminating based on race.
 
RightinNYC said:
HINT: There is a difference between discriminating based on politics and discriminating based on race.
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You're right about that conservatives are all about discrimination, I'll give you that. Be proud for that.

Liberty University proves the conservative creed, ban everything that you don't agree with.

I can only hope if there is a hell, conservatives that agree with Liberty University "standards" burn in there.
 
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TheNextEra said:
You're right about that conservatives are all about discrimination, I'll give you that. Be proud for that.

Liberty University proves the conservative creed, ban everything that you don't agree with.

I can only hope if there is a hell, conservatives that agree with Liberty University "standards" burn in there.
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Solid response. Good to know nothing at DP changed.
 
RightinNYC said:
Solid response. Good to know nothing at DP changed.
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Good to know conservatives haven't changed on their intolerance. They hate what they don't agree with and agree to ban it.
 
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