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Liberty University Bans Democrat Club

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Gore lost his home state, something almost never seen in presidential elections.

Gore lost the vote that counted, the vote in Floriduh! and thus the Electoral College vote.
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I doubt Winston has ever read the Constitution, so he is unlikely to know how Presidents are elected.
 
TheNextEra said:
Yes, you responded that you felt universities were political, yet they haven't banned clubs due to political views. However, this unfit Liberty University has.

Again no comparison.
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Unfit? What's that suppose to mean?
 
TheNextEra said:
Yes, you responded that you felt universities were political, yet they haven't banned clubs due to political views. However, this unfit Liberty University has.

Again no comparison.
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What is your point? Did I make a comparison, did I say my Uni was as bad? Or was I just responding to Orius' comment about politicalised unis.

You and your Non-sequiturs TNE.:roll:
 
Oftencold said:
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
for that is unprofitable for you.

Hebrews 13:17,
King James Version

Please let me know when next I may instruct you in extremely basic things.
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Please don't prooftext and drag scripture through your mud.
 
I love how all these conservatives make broad statements about "liberal universities." I would say that, yes, University professors are liberal for the most part. It has to do with knowledge and knowing that liberal stances are the ones that make sense and provide for liberty and open mindedness. For the most part, Conservative thinking (not all mind you. there are some very good conservative scholars whom I respect) is close minded and myopic. What a good professor does though is give the floor to every view and allows for discussion amongst the students in a controlled environment. I am coming at this from a different position than most of you. I am a liberal academic in many regards, but would also be called conservative in other regards. No one is completely one or the other. That's just silly. Conservatives like to cop out of the discussion by proclaim one side to be "liberal," which means they are the bad guy, labeled to make them the "other."

Oh, and whoever posted about "wading through feminist ideas", etc hasn't got a clue about feminism then. Give me a break. You don't believe in equality between the sexes and all races? How do you disregard postmodern thought? How do you explain your way out of that? Do you have absolute truth about English literature or something? Also, how about Post-Colonialism? Do you believe that European points of view are the only valid ones? Again, "liberal" is not a bad label. It means thinking outside the box for heavens sake. I wills say this: my godfather is a Philosophy professor at a state University and is a conservative. He does just fine. He's tenured and the whole nine yards. Conservatives have a tendency to whine and cry when they are turned down because they usually are worthy of being turned down: i.e. sub-par scholarship, racial views, anti-feminist views, hate speech, etc. It's really disgusting that faculty would have any of those opinions given the fact that they will be teaching women, homosexuals, african americans, chinese, etc. That affects their ability to communicate to a wider audience in the classroom. If they can't get beyond their prejudices and teach the subject matter, then they don't deserve tenure. If they can, then they get tenure. What conservatives call this "liberalization" of the uni is a good thing, not bad.

Lastly, I find it funny that a conservative school, one that supposedly is about the rights and privileges of the constitution and personal liberty and responsibility would limit a group's ability to meet on their campus. Hypocritical at best. They have no concern nor love of freedom. It's a joke to them and conservatives should be outraged. Figures that they aren't because freedom has to do with thinking their way. If one doesn't, then restrain them and throw them out. That is typical of the right wing.
 
RightinNYC said:
Can you think of a legal reason why political predilections are treated differently than racial characteristics?
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Can you show us legally which left-leaning universities have done something illegal and not just conservatives whining about it?

Again, left-leaning does not mean they are taking away rights.
 
Voidwar said:
You are right, there is no comparison.

What happens to an extra curricular club is completely irrelevant when contrasted with a real problem like the systemic leftism of faculty in State schools across the nation.

Conservatives having trouble getting tenure is a problem.

Some club ? Not even worth notice.
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Well since you seem to know soo much care to show us which left-leaning universities have done something illegal in this regard?

Proof mind you, not just baseless conservative rhetoric.
 
Orius said:
The Gaggle : Liberty University Bans Democrat Club



I know it's an editorial but it stems from a real event. If someone can find a better article I'd appreciate it.

I realize this is a private institution so they can do what they want, but I still believe a broader issue is going on here: the politicization of educational institutions. How can you just outright ban a Democrat club on these social fringe issues? It would be like banning the GOP club because you don't support war. As if the GOP never does anything "unchristian".
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- what "hate crimes"??!!!???
- an university that bans students because they're too "socialist"...WTF?!
 
TheNextEra said:
And did you bother to read why? They wouldn't follow anti-discrimination policies.

Unlike Liberty University, this group wasn't banned because of political leanings, this group was banned because they wouldn't follow policies of anti-discrimination.
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...which is political.


you lose
 
We still talking about Liberty "University"??

Have they banned the Harry Potter Book club?

How do Liberty pre-med students score on their MCATs?? Do they wonder why there are no questions on dinosaurs?;):(
 
TheNextEra said:
Anti-discrimination is not political, it is STANDARD for ALL clubs.

But then I can why you as a conservative would love discrimination.
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Anti-discrimination is the school policy at Wilmington, just as the school policies of LU are rooted in Christian ethics.

If the Democrat club was offered the option to sign a release @ LU saying that they would renounce their positions on abortion, marriage, etc... refused, and were booted; what gripe would you have?

Note: the policies of *anti-discrimination were being questioned by the college Republicans not the *right to freely discriminate.
 
The silenced majority said:
Anti-discrimination is the school policy at Wilmington, just as the school policies of LU are rooted in Christian ethics.

If the Democrat club was offered the option to sign a release @ LU saying that they would renounce their positions on abortion, marriage, etc... refused, and were booted; what gripe would you have?

Note: the policies of *anti-discrimination were being questioned by the college Republicans not the *right to freely discriminate.
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Yeah because anti-discirmination is the same as abandoning ALL your beleifs, give me a break. :roll:
That's like saying drug use or alcohol use policies at a university are political. They aren't.

It's not even CLOSE to being the same and you know it. The loony right is at it again.
 
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hazlnut said:
We still talking about Liberty "University"??

Have they banned the Harry Potter Book club?

How do Liberty pre-med students score on their MCATs?? Do they wonder why there are no questions on dinosaurs?;):(
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I would have put the quotation marks around the word "liberty."

:rofl

They certainly were within their rights to ban the Democratic club, but by doing so, they made the name of the university ("Liberty") a misnomer.
 
A private school created by a radical right wing bigot banning anything left wing? Why are we discussing this again? Let them do what they want. They support the claim that a visible percentage of the Republican party is made up of people trained to hate anything the bible disapproves of. Let all the defenders of this stupidity come at me. ;)
 
news article:

Liberty University officials insisted Friday that they revoked recognition of the College Democrats club for religious reasons and not political ones, and they weren’t trying to stifle free speech.

Politicians, including Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, urged the private school to reconsider. Using the letterhead of the Democratic National Committee, of which Kaine is chairman, he asked the school “to reverse this attack on the liberty of its students.”

LU chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. said the political club’s standing wouldn’t be restored, however, because the club supports Democratic candidates who are pro-choice on abortion.
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Kaine urges Liberty to reverse &#39attack on the liberty of its students&#39 | Lynchburg News Advance
 
formerroadie said:
I love how all these conservatives make broad statements about "liberal universities." I would say that, yes, University professors are liberal for the most part. It has to do with knowledge and knowing that liberal stances are the ones that make sense and provide for liberty and open mindedness. For the most part, Conservative thinking (not all mind you. there are some very good conservative scholars whom I respect) is close minded and myopic.
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So university professors are overwhelmingly liberal because liberals are smart and conservatives are stupid. Got it.

TheNextEra said:
Can you show us legally which left-leaning universities have done something illegal and not just conservatives whining about it?

Again, left-leaning does not mean they are taking away rights.
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Who did something illegal? This isn't a legal issue.
 
TheNextEra said:
Can you show us legally which left-leaning universities have done something illegal and not just conservatives whining about it?

Again, left-leaning does not mean they are taking away rights.
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RightinNYC already provided you with several examples.

Further, I think you should check your own jargon, as it is not "illegal" for a private university to ban any and every club from its grounds.

Also, the OP was decrying the "politicization of educational institutions" , and an extra curricular club is inherently not part of the institution.
 
Fine let Liberty do what ever they want to do and watch their ranking fall down into the pits.
 
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