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U.S. Soldier Shoots 5 of His Comrades to Death in Iraq

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?hp
BAGHDAD — The United States military said Monday that five American soldiers had been shot to death by a fellow soldier who opened fire on them at one of the biggest American bases in Baghdad, and that the suspected shooter was in custody. The killings appeared to be the worst case of soldier-on-soldier violence among the American forces based in Iraq since the invasion more than six years ago.
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Don't go talking about "bad apples"....our soldiers in Iraq have been asked to stay too long, have suffered too much, and have not complained. The military needs to know when to say "enough" to the civilian command structure, and not subject our young men and women to endless pressure.
 
WillRockwell said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?hp


Don't go talking about "bad apples"....our soldiers in Iraq have been asked to stay too long, have suffered too much, and have not complained. The military needs to know when to say "enough" to the civilian command structure, and not subject our young men and women to endless pressure.
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This psycho didn't murder his fellow soldiers because he's under endless pressure. He murdered them because he's a psycho.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Anyone find out a motive, I was shocked when I read this on yahoo earlier today.
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My guess is he's a little ***** who can't hack it, gets made fun of because of it, then goes on rampage.
 
WillRockwell said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?hp


Don't go talking about "bad apples"....our soldiers in Iraq have been asked to stay too long, have suffered too much, and have not complained. The military needs to know when to say "enough" to the civilian command structure, and not subject our young men and women to endless pressure.
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Have not complained?? On what planet? You clearly don't understand the military if you think no one has complained about deployments to Iraq.
 
I would like to thank the OP for giving a graphic and blunt example of why the Left cannot be trusted in any regards when it comes to the US military or Iraq.

Without any information whatsoever(past a headline) the OP has deemed fit to weave this instance into their canned 6 year old defeatist talking points.
 
WillRockwell said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?hp


Don't go talking about "bad apples"....our soldiers in Iraq have been asked to stay too long, have suffered too much, and have not complained. The military needs to know when to say "enough" to the civilian command structure, and not subject our young men and women to endless pressure.
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It is pretty loathsome when partisan hacks like yourself try to use our troops for some kind of sick "I told you so" political game.

The trooper probably had issues long before being stationed in Iraq.
 
WillRockwell said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?hp


Don't go talking about "bad apples"....our soldiers in Iraq have been asked to stay too long, have suffered too much, and have not complained. The military needs to know when to say "enough" to the civilian command structure, and not subject our young men and women to endless pressure.
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It's a shame...
...a shame this happened at all;
...and a shame you're using this as a political football.
 
Goshin said:
It's a shame...
...a shame this happened at all;
...and a shame you're using this as a political football.
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The Bush administration used the entire military as a football, forcing troops to return to Iraq year after year with no end, denying help for PTSD, misusing the National Guard. A "liberal" administration will now show the proper respect for the military, and not crowd these young soldiers into a psychological corner where they commit suicide or perform acts of violence.
 
WillRockwell said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?hp


Don't go talking about "bad apples"....our soldiers in Iraq have been asked to stay too long, have suffered too much, and have not complained. The military needs to know when to say "enough" to the civilian command structure, and not subject our young men and women to endless pressure.
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Dude, you had better hope and pray to every god and goddess you can think of that this never happens. The day the military says "enough" is the day this country ceases to exist. The day the military says "enough" is the day your sheltered universe shatters.

Every member of the Armed Forces takes an oath to defend the Constitution. That Constitution explicitly subordinates the military to the civilian government. The military does not get the luxury of saying "enough" whenever it pleases them. The military gets the privilege of saying "Yes, Sir" and carrying out whatever orders are given to the very best of their considerable ability.
 
WillRockwell said:
The Bush administration used the entire military as a football, forcing troops to return to Iraq year after year with no end
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It is a voluntary military. If we had a draft you mite have had a point.

WillRockwell said:
denying help for PTSD
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This is asbolutly not true.

"While the largest share of claims is still coming from Vietnam War veterans, there are expected to be many more claims in future from personnel who served in the first Gulf War and in the current conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the panel said." - VA urged to improve treatment of PTSD - Military- msnbc.com

While the government is asking for the VA to improve treatment methods, it is not claiming veterans of the current conflict are being unduly denied. It even go on to show that Vietnam veterans are currently the lions share of cases.

WillRockwell said:
misusing the National Guard.
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Not true.

Back in the Clinton years the active military was being scaled down and the reserves and National Guard were to be used as 50% of our combat forces in time of war. In fact it started as soon as Bill Clinton took office.

WillRockwell said:
A "liberal" administration will now show the proper respect for the military, and not crowd these young soldiers into a psychological corner where they commit suicide or perform acts of violence.
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Please do us all a favor and get some real facts on the situation.
 
WillRockwell said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?hp


Don't go talking about "bad apples"....our soldiers in Iraq have been asked to stay too long, have suffered too much, and have not complained. The military needs to know when to say "enough" to the civilian command structure, and not subject our young men and women to endless pressure.
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Actually we who serve(d) know about "honor, duty, courage" and what you are suggesting amounts to mutiny.

Is that what you REALLY want?


and yes this was a bad apple, are you suggesting the militarty is full of psychos.
 
When I heard about this horrible story yesterday, I knew 1 of 3 people here would be opening a thread to use this story to show how horrible the entire military is. Next time, I'm laying money down.
 
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