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CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

Is the actual report public yet? I see no details in the OP's link as to exactly what the CIA told her. Until I see what they say, a judgement can't be made. I'm sure that won't stop the neo-cons, tho.
 
You have an ODD sense of what constitutes a "personal" insult. But if that shoe fits you, by all means wear it! :2wave:

Really? I am a liberal. You say liberals don't make sense and are inconsistent. How is that not a personal insult?
 
Really? I am a liberal. You say liberals don't make sense and are inconsistent. How is that not a personal insult?

Perhaps because I didn't direct the statement directly to you and didn't know or attempt to "presume" you were a Liberal?

But like I said, if that shoe fits, then by all means, wear it. :cool:
 
I'm sure that won't stop the neo-cons, tho.

I wonder what will ever stop the Liberals from arriving at uniformed conclusions and making offensive and despicable claims about those they disagree with for purely partisan political purposes. :doh
 
The sad part is that this thread was actually interesting until you just HAD to drive it into the ground with your aggression towards the other side. Thanks.
 
Perhaps because I didn't direct the statement directly to you and didn't know or attempt to "presume" you were a Liberal?

But like I said, if that shoe fits, then by all means, wear it. :cool:

So you are claiming ALL liberals are like this?
 
I wonder what will ever stop the Liberals from arriving at uniformed conclusions and making offensive and despicable claims about those they disagree with for purely partisan political purposes. :doh

Do you ever stop at generalizations of the other side? How can you call yourself "truth detector" and then make generalizing assumptions?

You're a partisan HACK and nothing more, there is NO truth in your statements only partisan HATRED and BILE.
 
I wonder what will ever stop the Liberals from arriving at uniformed conclusions and making offensive and despicable claims about those they disagree with for purely partisan political purposes. :doh

The irony is overwhelming.
 
The sad part is that this thread was actually interesting until you just HAD to drive it into the ground with your aggression towards the other side. Thanks.

The sad part is that you actually think you add anything to a thread with your selective whiney bitching.

:2wave:
 
Do you ever stop at generalizations of the other side? How can you call yourself "truth detector" and then make generalizing assumptions?

You're a partisan HACK and nothing more, there is NO truth in your statements only partisan HATRED and BILE.
Even generalizations have some truth. To bad you're in such general denial about it.
 
Do you ever stop at generalizations of the other side? How can you call yourself "truth detector" and then make generalizing assumptions?

You're a partisan HACK and nothing more, there is NO truth in your statements only partisan HATRED and BILE.

A partisan hack who NEVER deals in facts or the truth claiming others are “partisan hacks;” we call this hypocrisy and irony.

There is nothing generalizing about what I stated; Pelosi's and Rockefellers denials about being briefed are outright lies. Why do they lie? Well some of us who still like using our brains and intellect comprehend that is merely to serve a partisan political purpose.

But that stated, I am all eyes to see how you would explain away their OBVIOUS lies and distortions regarding this particular issue and how it is hardly partisan in nature and an attempt to impugn good men and woman.

I challenge you to EVER show I am merely generalizing or lying with anything more than your typical bloviating hyperbole.

I won't hold my breath for that day because based on your typical blathering on this forum, facts, honesty or the truth are rarely a prerequisite for your disingenuous patently farcical form of partisan BS.

Carry on Next; your declarations would be comedic if they weren't so damned insulting and asinine.
 
So you are claiming ALL liberals are like this?

I am claiming that MANY Liberals are exactly like this; the examples would fill volumes.

Let's start with voting FOR the Iraq war before they were against the war. How about the farcical Liberal claims that Bush “LIED” us into war.

The list is too long to deal with in a single thread; but I can't wait to see a logical and intelligent rebuttal for why Liberal Democrats play such asinine games and then THINK that just because the press is a willful partner the TRUTH won't get out.

:2wave:
 
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CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations' - Capitol Briefing


Nailed.

She should be forced to resign for conduct unbecoming US Congresswoman.



Edit--woops didn't see the other post on this.
So they were planning to use torture right after 9/11 eh? Before they even had a clear picture of who was ACTUALLY responsible... I wonder if it was something like - when we get our hands on one of those evil terrorists (that were all killed in their plane crashes) we are going to torture them and good... get me the DOJ on the phone -

Now, if it's true that the briefing said something to the effect - we are going to waterboard and do other things that we have to get cleared through the DOJ, because we're not sure they are legal - then I would agree, she should be held accountable. But her story goes something like this -
"Of the forty CIA briefings to Congress reported recently in the press, I was only briefed once, on September 4, 2002, as I have previously stated. As I said in my statement of December 9, 2007: 'I was briefed on interrogation techniques the Administration was considering using in the future. The Administration advised that legal counsel for both the CIA and the Department of Justice had concluded that the techniques were legal.' I had no further briefings on the techniques.

"My understanding of the briefing I received is consistent with the description that CIA General Counsel Scott Muller provided to Congresswoman Jane Harman in a letter dated February 28, 2003, which states: 'As we informed both you and the leadership of the Intelligence Committees last September, a number of Executive Branch lawyers including lawyers from the Department of Justice participated in the determination that, in the appropriate circumstances, the use of these techniques is fully consistent with U.S. law.' As reported in the press, the accompanying memo from CIA Director Panetta concedes that the descriptions provided by the CIA may not be accurate."

Pelosi's stands by torture statements - First Read - msnbc.com
 
How fortunate for Pelosi that no war crimes were committed.

And how predictable (and pathetic) that liberals will gleefully cannibalize their own, happily paying the steep price in order to gratify their hatred of one man.
I realize that you don't understand the ideology behind holding someone accountable (I mean from your own party) but if she is guilty then how is that "cannibalizing their own"?
 
War crimes? So we are now going to fabricate a new definition for what is meant by War Crimes? I cannot say that I am shocked by such rabid partisan hyperbole. :roll:

Unfortunately for those of us who live in the REAL world, Pelosi's apparent hypocrisy will cause very little loss of sleep for her. It is unlikely she will suffer politically for her apparent hypocrisy on this issue. After all, that is the sate MOST Democrats find themselves in on the debate about perceptions of what constitutes "torture" and the Iraq War.

I am enjoying watching REALITY smack the followers of the Democrat Party and the participants who are happily condemning their Republican opponents in the belief that the media would not "OUT" them on these issues.
Seems to me than anyone who uses the phrase "rabid partisan hyperbole" or "rabid hyperpartisan" as often as you do, must be trying to keep people from realizing that you're simply projecting.
 
One of Pelosi's main aides was present at a brieifing specifically dealing with the waterboarding of one of the scumbags.
Top Pelosi Aide Learned Of Waterboarding in 2003

By Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 9, 2009

A top aide to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi attended a CIA briefing in early 2003 in which it was made clear that waterboarding and other harsh techniques were being used in the interrogation of an alleged al-Qaeda operative, according to documents the CIA released to Congress on Thursday.
washingtonpost.com


SO now what?
She "never noticed"?

Democrat Leadership in every branch atm is filled with incompetent lying garbage.
 
OH Sen. Rockerfeller was also briefed. He often liked to claim the Bush Administration was not telling them what was going on.
That outright BS..and he made those claims all the way until Bush left office.


Docs Show Rockefeller Was Briefed On "How The Water Board Was Used"
By Zachary Roth - May 8, 2009, 12:31PM

The hot story of the morning is the release of CIA documents appearing to show that Nancy Pelosi was briefed on "enhanced interrogation techniques" in September 2002. Things have already descended into a he-said she-said debate -- literally -- over exactly what Pelosi was told, and whether the new information contradicts what she'd said in the past.

But let's set that aside for a second, because according to the documents, it was another Democratic lawmaker who received the first briefing whose summary in the newly released document specifically mentions waterboarding -- the technique that has been at the center of the controversy, especially for Pelosi lately.

In February, 2003, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, then the ranking Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee, was briefed -- along with Intel chair Pat Roberts and a staff member for each senator -- on "enhanced interrogation techniques"
Docs Show Rockefeller Was Briefed On "How The Water Board Was Used" | TPMMuckraker

So now what?
He's a dip?.."never noticed"?
 
I know you guys smell blood buuuuut, nowhere in either of those articles, nor in the CIA notes on Pelosi's briefing, do I read that Pelosi was informed what EITs were going to be used. And nobody else who was briefed after Pelosi has said they discussed their briefing with Pelosi.

So, what's the big deal? :confused:
 
I know you guys smell blood buuuuut, nowhere in either of those articles, nor in the CIA notes on Pelosi's briefing, do I read that Pelosi was informed what EITs were going to be used. And nobody else who was briefed after Pelosi has said they discussed their briefing with Pelosi.

So, what's the big deal? :confused:

She was so briefed she has admitted, though there is debate whether she was briefed they had been used, or that they where proposed to be used.

CIA says Pelosi knew about waterboarding; she says no

Nancy Pelosi said:
Of the 40 CIA briefings to Congress reported recently in the press, I was only briefed once, on September 4, 2002, as I have previously stated.

"As I said in my statement of December 9, 2007:

" 'I was briefed on interrogation techniques the administration was considering using in the future. The administration advised that legal counsel for both the CIA and the Department of Justice had concluded that the techniques were legal.'

"I had no further briefings on the techniques...

Her full statement is in the link provided.
 
She was so briefed she has admitted, though there is debate whether she was briefed they had been used, or that they where proposed to be used.

CIA says Pelosi knew about waterboarding; she says no

Her full statement is in the link provided.

Right. And her briefing was in Sept 2002. So what are these folks getting all worked up over? Nothing and nobody has said anything contrary to what Pelosi claims.

So again, whaz the fuss?
 
Right. And her briefing was in Sept 2002. So what are these folks getting all worked up over? Nothing and nobody has said anything contrary to what Pelosi claims.

So again, whaz the fuss?

Not sure actually. If her statement is accurate, there really is nothing to make a fuss about that I can see.
 
I know you guys smell blood buuuuut, nowhere in either of those articles, nor in the CIA notes on Pelosi's briefing, do I read that Pelosi was informed what EITs were going to be used. And nobody else who was briefed after Pelosi has said they discussed their briefing with Pelosi.

So, what's the big deal? :confused:
And you're supporting a politician who was too stupid to ask? So she didn't know then, didn't ask, so couldn't be outraged, right?
 
And you're supporting a politician who was too stupid to ask? So she didn't know then, didn't ask, so couldn't be outraged, right?
Being a senior Democrat, she is exempt from the standards of conduct normally reserved for members of the Bush Administration.

She is also automatically pardoned when she commits the selfsame presumptive sins of the Bush Administration.

Thus is the putrid double standard of liberals in this country.:2sick1:
 
One of Pelosi's main aides was present at a brieifing specifically dealing with the waterboarding of one of the scumbags.

washingtonpost.com


SO now what?
She "never noticed"?

Democrat Leadership in every branch atm is filled with incompetent lying garbage.
Oh that aide is just a turncoat liar and will probably write a book so we can discount anything he/she says. [/con mantra]
 
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