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Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

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An Apollo 14 astronaut told a group of UFOlogists Monday that aliens are not a myth and called on the government to disclose its findings, The Washington Times reported.

"It is now time to put away this embargo of truth about the alien presence," Edgar D. Mitchell, who made the longest moonwalk in history, told those attending a conference in Gaithersburg, Md., set up by the Paradigm Research Group.

"I call upon our government to open up ... and become a part of this planetary community that is now trying to take our proper role as a spacefaring civilization," the 79-year-old added. "We are being visited."

Paradigm Research Group founder Stephen Bassett backed Mitchell's theory and demanded that President Obama's administration release all information concerning extraterrestrial beings.
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If they have proof... bring it on. I think we're ready to know if we "really" are alone or not.

However, until there is something solid presented, this is a bit crack pot yes?
 
Gotta say, this seems to be the most credible of individuals I've heard saying such crackpot theories. I'd love for him to actually say the things he knows or thinks he knows.
 
Zyphlin said:
Gotta say, this seems to be the most credible of individuals I've heard saying such crackpot theories. I'd love for him to actually say the things he knows or thinks he knows.
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Well, without proof, no kidding proof, it's all crack pot... however, IF there is proof out there, it's time to let it all hang out.
 
MrVicchio said:
Well, without proof, no kidding proof, it's all crack pot... however, IF there is proof out there, it's time to let it all hang out.
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Is there proof of God?
 
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MrVicchio said:
Well, without proof, no kidding proof, it's all crack pot... however, IF there is proof out there, it's time to let it all hang out.
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Just in case it's not crack pot, I'm gonna remember to keep my towel handy at all times.
 
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We'll my question about god was really about belief systems. I see no reason to call this astronaut a crack pot when people believe in mythical sky daddies. And ido happen think the possibility of aliens visiting us is much more likely than a mythical god. Terrance McKenna actually proposed something very similiar. In that hallaucigenic mushrooms spores could survive entery through the earth's atmosphere. Possibily this is a way aliens could visit us?
 
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It may be time to let it hang out, but its not going to. It could've came out at any time before if it was really there and the government wanted to release it.

IF there is such actual information its going to take someone like this person not just saying "its there" but actually somehow bringing forth some legitimate proof. Pictures, documents, or even admitting to direct first hand accounts and saying something like "They can release the video we took from our trip on XX/XX/XXXX and you'll see it cause I did". Something concrete enough that even those that doubt this stuff will start going "okay, that sounds at least plausible. If he's telling a lie, release these things we know you'd have to have and we're look at it and see whose telling the truth".

In a situation like that, we KNOW they've had the thing (or should unless they destroyed it which then leads to many questions), it can be released and judged. Without something specific though all that can be said is "release what you have" and they can go "we don't have anything".
 
Zyphlin said:
It may be time to let it hang out, but its not going to. It could've came out at any time before if it was really there and the government wanted to release it.

IF there is such actual information its going to take someone like this person not just saying "its there" but actually somehow bringing forth some legitimate proof. Pictures, documents, or even admitting to direct first hand accounts and saying something like "They can release the video we took from our trip on XX/XX/XXXX and you'll see it cause I did". Something concrete enough that even those that doubt this stuff will start going "okay, that sounds at least plausible. If he's telling a lie, release these things we know you'd have to have and we're look at it and see whose telling the truth".

In a situation like that, we KNOW they've had the thing (or should unless they destroyed it which then leads to many questions), it can be released and judged. Without something specific though all that can be said is "release what you have" and they can go "we don't have anything".
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I doubt we, i.e. governments, have such proof... however, I can buy that if they did, they'd want to keep it all hush hush for the obvious reasons.

And you're right, it would take a huge amount of evidence to make people believe it wasn't some huge hoax.

Still, longest time spent on the moon... respectable guy, I think we should at least pay him some mind.
 
winston53660 said:
We'll my question about god was really about belief systems. I see no reason to call this astronaut a crack pot when people believe in mythical sky daddies. And ido happen think the possibility of aliens visiting us is much more likely than a mythical god. Terrance McKenna actually proposed something very similiar. In that hallaucigenic mushrooms spores could survive entery through the earth's atmosphere. Possibily this is a way aliens could visit us?
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I think you insulting tone and the use of the term "sky daddies" is highly inappropriate.
 
There are few, few people I respect more than the steely-eyed missile men of the Apollo program. Each of them is a deep personal hero of mine.

So this is very disappointing. He might as well jump in bed with the Moon landing deniers.
 
Harshaw said:
There are few, few people I respect more than the steely-eyed missile men of the Apollo program. Each of them is a deep personal hero of mine.
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I grew up fascinated by the space program and also viewed astronauts as heros. My dad was an Air Force fighter pilot. Unfortunately as I grew into adulthood I came to understand that Air Force pilots, and astronauts, are not necessarily any more immune to odd personal beliefs than the next guy.

If Mitchell has evidence for aliens visiting earth, or aliens on the moon, let him bring it forward. Otherwise, his history of walking on the moon has zero bearing on any claims he makes regarding this subject.

Edgar Mitchell has long been interested in esoteric subjects, including paranormal phenomenon. He conducted private ESP experiments with some friends on Earth during his Apollo 14 flight. Later Edgar Mitchell founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences to conduct research into subjects he feels have been neglected by mainstream science, such as human consciousness and psychic phenomenon.

The recent radio interview is not the first time Edgar Mitchell has claimed that aliens have landed on Earth and that there is a UFO cover up. In 2004 Edgar Mitchell told the St. Petersburg times that aliens have been visiting the Earth for decades and that the government was conducting a campaign of disinformation in order to cover up the truth.
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Mitchell & Aliens

:doh
 
I've always hoped so much that aliens are real, otherwise the universe would be so crushingly empty.

That's why I think the issue here, aliens, and belief in God is so easily conflated.

I don't worship aliens, however, to know that humans are literally the only species in existence in the entire universe, would change my views pretty drastically. It would give a lot more credence to religion, which at its most fundamental is theory wherein humans are special and intended.

I don't think we are and think that there's alien life out there as well, also the product of random universal forces at work.
 
Is there extraterrestrial life? In all likelihood, yes. The universe is so enormous that the chances that we are alone is tiny.

Are tall white creatures in UFOs regularly visiting the earth, abducting people, drawing pictures in our crops, and leaving no proof of their existence? Of course not. That's just retarded.
 
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell is but one of many who have seen unidentified objects or activity while in space. Former astronaut and Congressman John Glenn also has talked openly about his experiences and observations of UFO activity.

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I respect these astronauts, especially the original ones from the early days of the NASA space program. Men of courage and integrity...there would be no reason for them to attempt to deceive the public by falsely claiming to have seen UFOs. I would think that any deception would be to keep quiet about such activities, as NASA and our government may be doing.

I will not automatically assume that these men are/were lying.
 
quatrotritikali said:
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell is but one of many who have seen unidentified objects or activity while in space. Former astronaut and Congressman John Glenn also has talked openly about his experiences and observations of UFO activity.

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I respect these astronauts, especially the original ones from the early days of the NASA space program. Men of courage and integrity...there would be no reason for them to attempt to deceive the public by falsely claiming to have seen UFOs. I would think that any deception would be to keep quiet about such activities, as NASA and our government may be doing.

I will not automatically assume that these men are/were lying.
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In their particular cases, it may not have anything to do with lying or deception (although in many cases it does). I think a better analogy are the delusional people who truly believe they've talked to God or had some other religious experience. After all, that's essentially what UFO encounters are: Religious experiences.

There is ZERO evidence of any UFO encounters.
 
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This really is a high profile admission that aliens exist, even though it does not accompany proof. Why would someone with such a distinguished career come forward with this statement? I don't think it's a prestige thing, given how he could be accused of being insane.

My view is that it is highly probably that aliens exist and that we are visited. If even 0.05% of reports of UFO sightings were true, and were not related to sitings of human activity, then that means there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of alien activity.

If some of the governments do know about these lifeforms, then the number one reason to not disclose this to the public would be reasons of power. If we all, tomorrow, were given proof that aliens exist and are even here, then it would change the priorities of humanity completely. Who would even care about government power anymore, given that there are so many more wonders in the universe to explore, and much more powerful species than us?

I'm really curious about the part of his statement where he claims they are here to "take" our role... what could that possibly mean? That humans are being prevented from excelling?
 
Orius said:
This really is a high profile admission that aliens exist, even though it does not accompany proof. Why would someone with such a distinguished career come forward with this statement? I don't think it's a prestige thing, given how he could be accused of being insane.
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Like I said before, it isn't necessarily that he's lying (although he might be). Religious-based delusions are an equally valid explanation.

Orius said:
My view is that it is highly probably that aliens exist and that we are visited. If even 0.05% of reports of UFO sightings were true, and were not related to sitings of human activity, then that means there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of alien activity.
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If even 0.05% of unicorn sightings were true, then that would mean there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of unicorns.

Is there any evidence that even 0.05% of UFO reports are true and not related to human activity?

Orius said:
If some of the governments do know about these lifeforms, then the number one reason to not disclose this to the public would be reasons of power. If we all, tomorrow, were given proof that aliens exist and are even here, then it would change the priorities of humanity completely. Who would even care about government power anymore, given that there are so many more wonders in the universe to explore, and much more powerful species than us?
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But...there is no evidence...for any UFO claims. None.
 
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Kandahar said:
Like I said before, it isn't necessarily that he's lying (although he might be). Religious-based delusions are an equally valid explanation.
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I think it's rather convenient to generalize all testimony as a delusion.

Kandahar said:
If even 0.05% of unicorn sightings were true, then that would mean there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of unicorns.
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Unicorns were fabricated by humans. Aliens are outside of the human realm.

Kandahar said:
Is there any evidence that even 0.05% of UFO reports are true and not related to human activity?
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I said IF.

Kandahar said:
But...there is no evidence...for any UFO claims. None.
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There have been a number of events documented by government, such as the Shag Harbour Incident in Canada, one of the only ones that the public knows about, because there were fishermen on the water when it happened. Whenever there is a major UFO event with tangible evidence, the government immediately moves in to absorb it all before the public has a chance to know what is going on.

Either way, I believe that the government knows the truth and it is hidden for political purposes and reasons of power.
 
Orius said:
I think it's rather convenient to generalize all testimony as a delusion.
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I think it's rather convenient to give credibility to fantastic claims that don't have a single shred of evidence to back them up.

Orius said:
Unicorns were fabricated by humans. Aliens are outside of the human realm.
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UFO sightings were invented by humans too. :roll:

Orius said:
There have been a number of events documented by government, such as the Shag Harbour Incident in Canada, one of the only ones that the public knows about, because there were fishermen on the water when it happened.
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For incidents such as that, what do you think is the more rational explanation: That an alien spaceship crashed in Canada, or that some sort of military vessel crashed? Come on, use a little Occam's Razor here...

Orius said:
Whenever there is a major UFO event with tangible evidence, the government immediately moves in to absorb it all before the public has a chance to know what is going on.
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Governments can't even waterboard or wiretap people without getting caught. What makes you think that the world's governments would be able to keep THIS a secret? Why hasn't a UFO ever crashed in some African or Central Asian country with no functional government to engineer a coverup? Funny how these sightings always seem to happen in countries where UFOs are a part of pop culture...

Orius said:
Either way, I believe that the government knows the truth and it is hidden for political purposes and reasons of power.
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And I believe that UFO conspiracy theories are howling-at-the-moon lunacy...even moreso than most other conspiracy theories. At least most other conspiracy theories don't presuppose the existence of extraterrestrial visitors for which there is absolutely no evidence.
 
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The government will never admit there is other life out there and must say that dude best watch his back cause I am convinced they/gov have killed people for speaking out about this before.
 
MrVicchio said:
I doubt we, i.e. governments, have such proof... however, I can buy that if they did, they'd want to keep it all hush hush for the obvious reasons.

And you're right, it would take a huge amount of evidence to make people believe it wasn't some huge hoax.

Still, longest time spent on the moon... respectable guy, I think we should at least pay him some mind.
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It reallywould not take much to make people believe. I have saw polls and the majority of people think there are other forms of life "out there".
 
Kali said:
It reallywould not take much to make people believe. I have saw polls and the majority of people think there are other forms of life "out there".
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I don't quarrel with the notion that there are other forms of life in the Universe.

I do quarrel with the notion that government bureaucrats can keep a secret this complex for this length of time.
 
Zyphlin said:
Gotta say, this seems to be the most credible of individuals I've heard saying such crackpot theories. I'd love for him to actually say the things he knows or thinks he knows.
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I am willing to listen to what he has to say, but if he starts talking about getting anal probes from them, then count me out. :mrgreen:
 
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