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American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

Obama gave an order a few days ago that the naval commander was free to act if he felt the hostage life was threatened.
Thats what occured. So the commander acted.

The Commander acted..not Obama.
Obama did not order the action be taken he left it to others. I also highly doubt he had any clue anything like this was going to occur and probably preferred it had not.


Left to Obama the hostage would have joined the others hostages somewhere in Somalia.


Good Job Seals/Navy/Commander on scene.
Obama?...whatever.

(I especially like how the new media push is Obama gave authorization twice!..and he ordered it....

IN the morning it was the Naval Commander had acted at the moment with the Authorization given him by Obama.

Two different things..BUT one of them doesn't make Obama the hero. SO a snip there an addition here and a slight change of wordage over there and the narcissist has his day.)

This isn't really all that helpful ya know?

Obama gave the one important order that mattered "Use force if..."

That freed the men on the ground (as it were), to act without getting everything from Washington. THAT is outstanding, and I hope such a trend continues. We can have decent debates over the merits of the "Hostage threatened" clause instead of just taking the bad guys out straightaway and that could be interesting.

Obama freed the Navy to act, and they took the first chance they could to act. That's all that matters. Period.
 
I'm almost more pleased that Celticlord decided to title Obama as "Mr. President" and not "Dear Leader". Almost an achievement upon itself :)
Don't worry. Elsewhere he'll still be Dear Leader. This does not change my disgust for his politics or his policies.

In this he made the right call, and I give him credit for that.
 
I'll be damned, I was wrong. Kudos to the Navy folks that saved our man. Now go blow up the damned pirates eh?


That's good enough for me.

Good job, Mr. President. That was the right call.

Good for him.

Why?!? We wanted the pirates to succeed?? I don't think so, Jack. If Obama's team made this happen, Kudos to them!

Back to the joy of the occasion:

This is fabulous news! Happy Easter!!! :bunny:

CNN reports that Pres. Obama authorized the use of force if Capt. Phillips' life was in danger.

This isn't really all that helpful ya know?

Obama gave the one important order that mattered "Use force if..."

That freed the men on the ground (as it were), to act without getting everything from Washington. THAT is outstanding, and I hope such a trend continues. We can have decent debates over the merits of the "Hostage threatened" clause instead of just taking the bad guys out straightaway and that could be interesting.

Obama freed the Navy to act, and they took the first chance they could to act. That's all that matters. Period.


I would like to give kudos to some of our resident conservatives who often rail against Obama for demonstrating solid integrity and consistency in supporting him and congratulating him on his decision.

Good for all of you. :applaud


Good Job Seals/Navy. Commander who ordered the actions.




Obama..whatever.

Of course there are some clueless partisan hacks out there that won't get it no matter how obvious it is that they are wrong. :roll:
 
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Obama gave an order a few days ago that the naval commander was free to act if he felt the hostage life was threatened.
Thats what occured. So the commander acted.

The Commander acted..not Obama.
Obama did not order the action be taken he left it to others. I also highly doubt he had any clue anything like this was going to occur and probably preferred it had not.


Left to Obama the hostage would have joined the others hostages somewhere in Somalia.


Good Job Seals/Navy/Commander on scene.
Obama?...whatever.

(I especially like how the new media push is Obama gave authorization twice!..and he ordered it....

IN the morning it was the Naval Commander had acted at the moment with the Authorization given him by Obama.

Two different things..BUT one of them doesn't make Obama the hero. SO a snip there an addition here and a slight change of wordage over there and the narcissist has his day.)
I am going to say three things:

1. I consider the man a horrible President and an absolute mistake of democracy. Of all the potential candidates for President he is without a doubt the least accomplished, the least visionary, the least intelligent, and the least deserving of high office. As President, he has been an embarrassment to the United States upon the world stage.

2. No President has any business micro-managing a fluid event like a kidnapping/taking of hostages by pirates. Frankly, by drawing up orders that gave the operational commanders in the area full operational control, he did the right thing. Perhaps he was spoon-fed the orders by the Secretary of Defense, or perhaps he came up with them himself. I do not know, nor do I care. If the operational commanders on the scene had the command prerogative to launch this rescue mission when it seemed Captain Phillips' life was in immediate danger, then kudos to the CinC for giving them that flexibility and then staying the hell out of the decision making. Had the go/no-go decision on a rescue effort been limited to the Oval Office, Captain Phillips would be dead.

3. There are an abundance of reasons to loathe and despise this President. There are an abundance of reasons to consider him an error of democracy. Captain Phillips' rescue is not one of those reasons.
 
I just saw it reported on CNN that the Navy SEAL snipers had performed a high altitude parachute jump into the AO. Then when the time was right they used 3 bullets and fired a single shot into the head of each pirate. The forth pirate was captured, actually I think he surrendered.

OK, that's just flat out impressive. 3 bullets, 3 down. :shock:
 
Where do I sign up? I may not have any gun-totting experience, nor do I know how to command or navigate a vessel.

But I logged quite a good deal of hours on Sid Meier's Pirates! Though this conniving water-dragons may not be caliber enough to go motto v. motto with cutlasses and rapiers, I'm sure there will be a great deal of satisfaction in implementing the tools of a navy that made the United Kingdom's look like a water-chestnut floating in the Pacific.

Find a Recruiter: Navy



Navy recruiting poster.
 
Triad, I don't care. I'm damned proud of my country today, and it feels good. I'm sure tomorrow Mr Obama will piss a lot of us off with something else, but today he done good authorizing force.
 
OK, that's just flat out impressive. 3 bullets, 3 down. :shock:

Pah...SEAL snipers I would expect nothing less.

(although I'm fairly certain that MARINE snipers would have gotten the fourth pirate as well, and probably still with just 3 bullets! :mrgreen:)
 
Pah...SEAL snipers I would expect nothing less.

(although I'm fairly certain that MARINE snipers would have gotten the fourth pirate as well, and probably still with just 3 bullets! :mrgreen:)

I would have expected it, too, understanding the training a SEAL goes through (I had a friend who was one). Even though it may have been just another day at work for them, to me, damn impressive.
 
Kudos to these Navy People, kudos to the CIC.
 
The military has been medically experimenting with X-Ray Vision for some time now. It was scrapped for a while because troops were caught hanging out by the showers abusing their amplified abilities. But for special missions of this sort, the shelves get emptied.

Now that's cool. I have no idea how it could work but whatever... Three cheers for our spec ops supermen!

Edit: here's what they're saying actually happened:

They established clear head shots on all three pirates: one was visible through the front window, and the other two were revealing their heads through the top hatch, presumably to get fresh air. It would be their last breath.

Navy Seals Kill Pirates, Rescue American Hostage - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
 
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Obama gave an order a few days ago that the naval commander was free to act if he felt the hostage life was threatened.
Thats what occured. So the commander acted.
Which is exactly what Obama should have done.

The Commander acted..not Obama.
That goes without saying. If your position is to beat Obama up in some way then your comment is pointless.
Obama did not order the action be taken he left it to others.
Again, which is exactly what he was supposed to do.
I also highly doubt he had any clue anything like this was going to occur and probably preferred it had not.
So? He probably preferred that the Captain be released unharmed and the pirates surrender peacefully. Thankfully though he had enough foresight to give the commander authorization to use force should that become necessary.

Left to Obama the hostage would have joined the others hostages somewhere in Somalia.
The very fact that he gave the commander authorization to use force against the pirates proves you wrong.

Good Job Seals/Navy/Commander on scene.
Agreed.
Obama?...whatever.
You?...whatever.

(I especially like how the new media push is Obama gave authorization twice!..and he ordered it....
I especially like how you are in here belittling his actions despite the fact that he did exactly what he should have done. Obama can do nothing right in your eyes. You hyperpartisan is showing once again.

IN the morning it was the Naval Commander had acted at the moment with the Authorization given him by Obama.
Yes, and you will do whatever you can to undermine any credit the President may have coming because you don't like his politics.
Two different things..BUT one of them doesn't make Obama the hero. SO a snip there an addition here and a slight change of wordage over there and the narcissist has his day.)
Whoever said it makes Obama a hero? And now he is a narcissist? You do a lot of drugs? Whatever it takes right?
 
Simply put, I bet a dollar to a donut that if the mission had failed, Triad would be putting the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the CiC (Obama.)

How do you spell that word again? Hippo...er...hipocr.....hypoc...????
 
Simply put, I bet a dollar to a donut that if the mission had failed, Triad would be putting the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the CiC (Obama.)

How do you spell that word again? Hippo...er...hipocr.....hypoc...????

I believe the word you're looking for is "hippopotamus," Jeeves.
 
Simply put, I bet a dollar to a donut that if the mission had failed, Triad would be putting the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the CiC (Obama.)

How do you spell that word again? Hippo...er...hipocr.....hypoc...????
The only failure would have been if the CinC denied authorization for the rescue effort. That did not happen, and the rescue was a success....so anyone who wants to deny the President the win on this is simply being a damn fool.
 
The only failure would have been if the CinC denied authorization for the rescue effort. That did not happen, and the rescue was a success....so anyone who wants to deny the President the win on this is simply being a damn fool.

Well, it was mostly a success. I'd have preferred that the pirates surrender and face justice. But, them's the breaks when you decide to brandish firearms, take hostages, and threaten people's lives.
 
Well, it was mostly a success. I'd have preferred that the pirates surrender and face justice. But, them's the breaks when you decide to brandish firearms, take hostages, and threaten people's lives.
Frankly, I'm glad they didn't. Not every evildoer in the world is a criminal, and not every evildoer in the world merits the dignity of trial and the attached rights of an accused person.

Pirates, terrorists, and the like....they are the epitome of the unlawful combatant, waging an undeclared war against the foundations of civilization itself. Justice is them being hunted down and killed like the subhuman scum that they are. They do not deserve trials, they do not deserve mercy, they do not deserve one second of life longer than the time it takes to get them lined up in a gun sight.

Just a damn shame one of them is still breathing. That's the only blemish I see on this effort.
 
Simply put, I bet a dollar to a donut that if the mission had failed, Triad would be putting the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of the CiC (Obama.)

How do you spell that word again? Hippo...er...hipocr.....hypoc...????

You are correct sir!
 
I believe the word you're looking for is "hippopotamus," Jeeves.

Thanks. I knew it was "hippy" something. :mrgreen:

I guess I gotta hand this one to Obama. I wish he was around back in Carter's day when the hostage rescue attempts were botched. (Yet again, another example of a sitting prez taking the heat when things go south.)
 
Frankly, I'm glad they didn't. Not every evildoer in the world is a criminal, and not every evildoer in the world merits the dignity of trial and the attached rights of an accused person.

Pirates, terrorists, and the like....they are the epitome of the unlawful combatant, waging an undeclared war against the foundations of civilization itself. Justice is them being hunted down and killed like the subhuman scum that they are. They do not deserve trials, they do not deserve mercy, they do not deserve one second of life longer than the time it takes to get them lined up in a gun sight.

Just a damn shame one of them is still breathing. That's the only blemish I see on this effort.

I don't think they're "subhuman scum." They're very much human, trying to make ends meet for themselves in the third world, backwater hellhole they were born into. Most of these pirates act in an almost honorable way, virtually never killing (the death of the French hostage during the raid is the first I've heard of them actually killing someone) and never reneging on a deal. This was the exception rather than the rule, where the pirates took back one of their own without giving back the Captain. It could have secured them their lives, had the chosen to surrender and give up the captain. However, they decided to put a $2 million price tag on the captain's head and secured their own deaths instead. At least there was one of them sane enough to save his own life. God bless him.
 
How in the world can you defend these useless people.They got what they deserved. They are stealing from people and threataning peoples lives.You do that you need to die. I am sure you would change your mind if you were on one of those ships. If more people in that part of the world world would work to try and make their country a better place instead of taking the easy money than they might not live in such a crap hole.
 
Man they whooped some ass.

Glad they took their time and made sure to do it right. Best Easter his family has ever had, I'm sure, and I feel very happy for them.
 
I don't think they're "subhuman scum." They're very much human, trying to make ends meet for themselves in the third world, backwater hellhole they were born into. Most of these pirates act in an almost honorable way, virtually never killing (the death of the French hostage during the raid is the first I've heard of them actually killing someone) and never reneging on a deal. This was the exception rather than the rule, where the pirates took back one of their own without giving back the Captain. It could have secured them their lives, had the chosen to surrender and give up the captain. However, they decided to put a $2 million price tag on the captain's head and secured their own deaths instead. At least there was one of them sane enough to save his own life. God bless him.

Piracy is NEVER an honorable act, and ALWAYS punishable by death. Thus has it always been.
 
Obama gave an order a few days ago that the naval commander was free to act if he felt the hostage life was threatened.
Thats what occured. So the commander acted.

The Commander acted..not Obama.
Obama did not order the action be taken he left it to others. I also highly doubt he had any clue anything like this was going to occur and probably preferred it had not.


Left to Obama the hostage would have joined the others hostages somewhere in Somalia.


Good Job Seals/Navy/Commander on scene.
Obama?...whatever.

(I especially like how the new media push is Obama gave authorization twice!..and he ordered it....

IN the morning it was the Naval Commander had acted at the moment with the Authorization given him by Obama.

Two different things..BUT one of them doesn't make Obama the hero. SO a snip there an addition here and a slight change of wordage over there and the narcissist has his day.)

LOL like the commander would have lifted a finger without Obama's authorization.... Seriously your hate for Obama is screaming through.. why dont you just say so instead of making crap up..

oh btw why do you hate America?
 
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