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American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

Truth Detector said:
I see you don't read or pay attention to what is being typed; could this be more of your willful denial?

I clearly stated the Somali Government.

Here's a clue for those of you who desperately want to avoid the substance of what I am stating which is OBVIOUS; how long do you think US citizens could operate off our shores terrorizing international shipping and taking their crews hostage?

How long would they last if it were the coast of France, Britain, Canada or Japan?

Carry on. :roll:
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Which one? You do realize that Somalia is in a state of anarchy and de facto governance lies in the hands of warlords and tribal leaders, right?
 
Truth Detector said:
I see you don't read or pay attention to what is being typed; could this be more of your willful denial?

I clearly stated the Somali Government.

Here's a clue for those of you who desperately want to avoid the substance of what I am stating which is OBVIOUS; how long do you think US citizens could operate off our shores terrorizing international shipping and taking their crews hostage?

How long would they last if it were the coast of France, Britain, Canada or Japan?

Carry on. :roll:
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What proof do you have that these pirates were operating with full knowledge of the Somali Government? And your above assumption isn't proof.
 
Truth Detector said:
What points are there to address when you purposely avoid any I post? Your doing nothing but trolling and baiting.

Dismissed.
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So you are going to continue with the personal attacks. Duly noted.
 
dclxvinoise said:
What proof do you have that these pirates were operating with full knowledge of the Somali Government?
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What proof do you have they are not? My argument is logical and clear, and yours is basically this; well you're wrong.

Once more as I stated earlier and you so desperately avoid:

...how long do you think US citizens could operate off our shores terrorizing international shipping and taking their crews hostage?

How long would they last if it were the coast of France, Britain, Canada or Japan?

dclxvinoise said:
And your above assumption isn't proof.
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But your argument is what, proof? What proof do you bring to the debate that they are NOT terrorists operating with the knowledge and with impunity by the Somali Government?

What level of denial do you have to bring to a debate to suggest that these terrorist thugs can take HUGE ships hostage off their coasts and operate with impunity are doing so without the knowledge and blessing of their Government?

What level of absurdity does it take to compare what is happening off the coast of Somalia to bank robbers, 7-11 robbers and people with road rage? What level of selective outrage does it take to realize you are doing nothing but trolling and baiting?

Now run along; I prefer debating someone who actually makes an effort to form a coherent thought than someone who desperately trolls and baits posters with their selective outrage and pre-conceived partisan bias.
 
BulletWounD said:
Which one? You do realize that Somalia is in a state of anarchy and de facto governance lies in the hands of warlords and tribal leaders, right?
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If it doesn't suit his purpose he won't realize jack squat.
 
Truth Detector said:
What proof do you have they are not? My argument is logical and clear, and yours is basically this; well you're wrong.

Once more as I stated earlier and you so desperately avoid:

...how long do you think US citizens could operate off our shores terrorizing international shipping and taking their crews hostage?

How long would they last if it were the coast of France, Britain, Canada or Japan?
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Here's your flaw. You're comparing the anarchic state of Somalia to Western countries with strong, organized, central governments, police, coast guard, a justice system, and that sort of thing. These things simply do not exist in Somalia. That's why when the Navy was negotiating with Somali "authorities" they were not on the phone with the "government of Somalia" but with tribal elders.
 
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Ikari said:
While terrorists and terrorism is a serious issue that needs to be addressed, these pirates were not terrorists. They were pirates, pirates aren't necessarily terrorists. They took hostages to get money, but taking hostages in and of itself doesn't make one a terrorist. The pirates weren't looking to change a system or take over, they wanted money. Thieves, yes. Terrorists, no.
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I agree, these guys are criminals. They may be muslims but there motives are not political or religious. however I do think we should not take any prisoners. Where we going to put them GITMO? No we should kill them with extreme prejudice.Trying them in American courts will allow liberal judges and lawers to drag there cases out for years.

It took 3 months from the time of Lincolns assasination till Booth was hanging from the gallows. Thats the way it should be, but its not anymore so kill the SOB's. Kill em all.....................
 
Truth Detector said:
What proof do you have they are not? My argument is logical and clear, and yours is basically this; well you're wrong.

Once more as I stated earlier and you so desperately avoid:

...how long do you think US citizens could operate off our shores terrorizing international shipping and taking their crews hostage?

How long would they last if it were the coast of France, Britain, Canada or Japan?
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I don't need proof because I'm not the one making the assumption. You are and therefore the burden of proof is on you. And restating your assumption still isn't proof.

But your argument is what, proof? What proof do you bring to the debate that they are NOT terrorists operating with the knowledge and with impunity by the Somali Government?
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Yeah, one needs proof in order to believe something. I'm not going to assume something like you and then suddenly believe it and argue it.

What level of denial do you have to bring to a debate to suggest that these terrorist thugs can take HUGE ships hostage off their coasts and operate with impunity are doing so without the knowledge and blessing of their Government?
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I'm sorry but that's not much of an argument. Just because you don't see how the Somali government wouldn't be aware doesn't mean that they are aware.

What level of absurdity does it take to compare what is happening off the coast of Somalia to bank robbers, 7-11 robbers and people with road rage? What level of selective outrage does it take to realize you are doing nothing but trolling and baiting?
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Because their motivation, like robbers, is money. Just because they have a heavy arsenal doesn't mean that they are terrorists. Unless you can prove that they did what they did for political purposes they are still classified as pirates.

Now run along; I prefer debating someone who actually makes an effort to form a coherent thought than someone who desperately trolls and baits posters with their selective outrage and pre-conceived partisan bias.
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Once again, please quit trying to derail the thread with personal attacks. Thanks.
 
BulletWounD said:
Which one? You do realize that Somalia is in a state of anarchy and de facto governance lies in the hands of warlords and tribal leaders, right?
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And yet, they have an official Government web site:
Official Federal government Website for Somalia

And Government structure:
Somali President HE. Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed

Somali Prime Minister HE. Ali Mohamed Gedi

Speaker of the Somali Parliament Shariif Hassan Shiekh Adan

It begs the question, what part of rogue terrorist regime did you not comprehend in my previous arguments?


The point I have been making is that they allow this to terrorism to occur and are perhaps benefiting from it; attempting to claim these are pirates is a desperate political ploy to avoid with dealing with the Somali issue. This not just denial on the part of the Obama Administration, but the world and the UN and by calling it simply an act of piracy, it permits these feckless administrations from dealing with the OBVIOUS; a terrorist rogue regime that condones terrorism of the shipping lanes off it’s coast.
 
There are allready liberals on the news trying to garner sympathy for these dirtbags. The poor pirates. Its a sickness I tell you. Freekin spineless pacifist PC liberal douchbags need meds real bad.
 
BulletWounD said:
Here's your flaw. You're comparing the anarchic state of Somalia to Western countries with strong, organized, central governments, police, coast guard, a justice system, and that sort of thing. These things simply do not exist in Somalia. That's why when the Navy was negotiating with Somali "authorities" they were not on the phone with the "government of Somalia" but with tribal elders.
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Once again you would be WRONG; I am not trying to compare Somalia to any of these Governments.

I used those examples to prove that the nation of Somali condones the terrorism off their shores, perhaps arms these terrorist thugs and allows them to operate with impunity and that the world of nations is avoiding the OBVIOUS by claiming these are mere acts of piracy.

Carry on.
 
Truth Detector said:
And yet, they have an official Government web site:
Official Federal government Website for Somalia

And Government structure:
Somali President HE. Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed

Somali Prime Minister HE. Ali Mohamed Gedi

Speaker of the Somali Parliament Shariif Hassan Shiekh Adan

It begs the question, what part of rogue terrorist regime did you not comprehend in my previous arguments?


The point I have been making is that they allow this to terrorism to occur and are perhaps benefiting from it; attempting to claim these are pirates is a desperate political ploy to avoid with dealing with the Somali issue. This not just denial on the part of the Obama Administration, but the world and the UN and by calling it simply an act of piracy, it permits these feckless administrations from dealing with the OBVIOUS; a terrorist rogue regime that condones terrorism of the shipping lanes off it’s coast.
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So just because they have a website it doesn't mean that they are in a state of anarchy? Once again, you arguments sound far more like a conspiracy theory than anything.
 
Truth Detector said:
And yet, they have an official Government web site:
Official Federal government Website for Somalia

And Government structure:
Somali President HE. Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed

Somali Prime Minister HE. Ali Mohamed Gedi

Speaker of the Somali Parliament Shariif Hassan Shiekh Adan

It begs the question, what part of rogue terrorist regime did you not comprehend in my previous arguments?


The point I have been making is that they allow this to terrorism to occur and are perhaps benefiting from it; attempting to claim these are pirates is a desperate political ploy to avoid with dealing with the Somali issue. This not just denial on the part of the Obama Administration, but the world and the UN and by calling it simply an act of piracy, it permits these feckless administrations from dealing with the OBVIOUS; a terrorist rogue regime that condones terrorism of the shipping lanes off it’s coast.
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The "government of Somalia" only exists in a de jure capacity. Even that's debatable. It's kinda like if I stood up today and said "I'm the dictator of Floridageorgessee." Somalia itself is only a state because the UN says so. Seriously, you should do some reading before you spout off with your idiotic, Bushesque rhetoric.

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SgtRock said:
There are allready liberals on the news trying to garner sympathy for these dirtbags. The poor pirates. Its a sickness I tell you. Freekin spineless pacifist PC liberal douchbags need meds real bad.
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It was a liberal president who ordered the shooting of the pirates, and other liberals will coordinate the effort to eliminate the further threat of piracy, while you loudmouth chickenhawks, who demonstrated complete ineptitude during your 8 years in power, bow to your Lord Jabba the Rush and pray for the failure of the American administration. Why don't you just go join the Taliban?
 
dclxvinoise said:
So just because they have a website it doesn't mean that they are in a state of anarchy? Once again, you arguments sound far more like a conspiracy theory than anything.
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Why do you so desperately troll and bait my posts? Did you have a coherent point to make, or feel compelled to wallow in abject denial of the arguments being made and fabricate your own version of reality?

They have a Government, they are a member of the UN and their Government does indeed have structure. The notion that they are in a state of anarchy requires the willing suspension of disbelief and a vacuum of reality or the facts:

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_member_states]United Nations member states - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Executive branch: chief of state: Transitional Federal President Sheikh SHARIF Sheikh Ahmed (since 31 January 2009); note - a transitional governing entity with a five-year mandate, known as the Transitional Federal Institutions (TFIs), was established in October 2004; the TFIs relocated to Somalia in June 2004

Constitution: 25 August 1979, presidential approval 23 September 1979
note: the formation of transitional governing institutions, known as the Transitional Federal Government, is currently ongoing

head of government: Prime Minister Omar Abdirashid Ali SHARMARKE (since 13 February 2009)

cabinet: Cabinet appointed by the prime minister and approved by the Transitional Federal Assembly

election results: Sheikh SHARIF Sheikh Ahmed was elected president by the expanded Transitional Federal Assembly in Djibouti

Legislative branch: unicameral National Assembly

note: unicameral Transitional Federal Assembly (TFA) (550 seats; 475 members appointed according to the 4.5 clan formula, with the remaining 75 seats reserved for civil society and business persons)

Judicial branch: following the breakdown of the central government, most regions have reverted to local forms of conflict resolution, either secular, traditional Somali customary law, or Sharia (Islamic) law with a provision for appeal of all sentences

International organization participation: ACP, AfDB, AFESD, AMF, AU, CAEU, FAO, G-77, IBRD, ICAO, ICRM, IDA, IDB, IFAD, IFC, IFRCS, IGAD, ILO, IMF, IMO, Interpol, IOC, IOM, IPU, ITSO, ITU, LAS, NAM, OIC, UN, UNCTAD, UNESCO, UNHCR, UNIDO, UPU, WFTU, WHO, WIPO, WMO
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/so.html


So please, stop this childish game you are playing and either make a point, or allow the posters I am debating to respond to my arguments.

My argument is clear: the reasons the world body and the US administration refuses to acknowledge the terrorism being conducted from the shores of Somalia is because they do not want to deal with the real problem; the nation as a whole and the rogue regime running it. They do this by claiming these are mere acts of piracy which relieves them from actively dealing with the root cause and conveniently avoids dealing with the Somali problem.

It would be more honest of you if you just stated you think I am full of **** instead of pretending you have a coherent counter-point.

Run along now and troll and bait someone else’s posts. Your trite juvenile attempts are tiring and typical of your desperate attempts to avoid any substance.
 
Truth Detector said:
Why do you so desperately troll and bait my posts? Did you have a coherent point to make, or feel compelled to wallow in abject denial of the arguments being made and fabricate your own version of reality?

They have a Government, they are a member of the UN and their Government does indeed have structure. The notion that they are in a state of anarchy requires the willing suspension of disbelief and a vacuum of reality or the facts:

United Nations member states - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Executive branch: chief of state: Transitional Federal President Sheikh SHARIF Sheikh Ahmed (since 31 January 2009); note - a transitional governing entity with a five-year mandate, known as the Transitional Federal Institutions (TFIs), was established in October 2004; the TFIs relocated to Somalia in June 2004

Constitution: 25 August 1979, presidential approval 23 September 1979
note: the formation of transitional governing institutions, known as the Transitional Federal Government, is currently ongoing

head of government: Prime Minister Omar Abdirashid Ali SHARMARKE (since 13 February 2009)

cabinet: Cabinet appointed by the prime minister and approved by the Transitional Federal Assembly

election results: Sheikh SHARIF Sheikh Ahmed was elected president by the expanded Transitional Federal Assembly in Djibouti

Legislative branch: unicameral National Assembly

note: unicameral Transitional Federal Assembly (TFA) (550 seats; 475 members appointed according to the 4.5 clan formula, with the remaining 75 seats reserved for civil society and business persons)

Judicial branch: following the breakdown of the central government, most regions have reverted to local forms of conflict resolution, either secular, traditional Somali customary law, or Sharia (Islamic) law with a provision for appeal of all sentences

International organization participation: ACP, AfDB, AFESD, AMF, AU, CAEU, FAO, G-77, IBRD, ICAO, ICRM, IDA, IDB, IFAD, IFC, IFRCS, IGAD, ILO, IMF, IMO, Interpol, IOC, IOM, IPU, ITSO, ITU, LAS, NAM, OIC, UN, UNCTAD, UNESCO, UNHCR, UNIDO, UPU, WFTU, WHO, WIPO, WMO
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/so.html


So please, stop this childish game you are playing and either make a point, or allow the posters I am debating to respond to my arguments.

My argument is clear: the reasons the world body and the US administration refuses to acknowledge the terrorism being conducted from the shores of Somalia is because they do not want to deal with the real problem; the nation as a whole and the rogue regime running it. They do this by claiming these are mere acts of piracy which relieves them from actively dealing with the root cause and conveniently avoids dealing with the Somali problem.

It would be more honest of you if you just stated you think I am full of **** instead of pretending you have a coherent counter-point.

Run along now and troll and bait someone else’s posts. Your trite juvenile attempts are tiring and typical of your desperate attempts to avoid any substance.
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Basically reinforcing my point: Somalia is only a state because the UN says so and the TFG is only the "government of Somalia" because the UN says so.

Also, I think your posts are too stupid to be real. You are a sockpuppet and a troll. Out yourself.
 
WillRockwell said:
It was a liberal president who ordered the shooting of the pirates, and other liberals will coordinate the effort to eliminate the further threat of piracy,
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Without dealing with the ROOT cause of this terrorism of international shipping off the coast of Somalia, the Somali Government, how do you think these "liberals" are going to eliminate the threat of "piracy?"

This should be good for a few additional laughs. :rofl

WillRockwell said:
while you loudmouth chickenhawks, who demonstrated complete ineptitude during your 8 years in power, bow to your Lord Jabba the Rush and pray for the failure of the American administration. Why don't you just go join the Taliban?
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The above is a perfect example of the hyperbole and hypocrisy of liberal thinking.

You should be the poster child of Liberal denial, hypocrisy and selective outrage. :roll:

I wonder if you will call your Liberal buddies “chicken hawks” if and when the Somali “pirates”, actually terrorists, carry out their threats against the US for our killing their terrorist buddies.

Carry on; I look forward to more of your emotional hysterics. :rofl
 
BulletWounD said:
Basically reinforcing my point: Somalia is only a state because the UN says so and the TFG is only the "government of Somalia" because the UN says so.
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I am reinforcing your point? You're the one desperately trying to suggest that the Somali doesn't exist and Somalia is wallowing in anarchy.

I have proved that they have a parliament, web site, leadership, structure are members of the world community, have a constitution and legal system.

The argument I have made is that they are indeed a rogue regime that supports terrorist tactics and condones the attacks off their shores.

What do we get from you? "Because the UN says so". How trite and banal and typical.

BulletWounD said:
Also, I think your posts are too stupid to be real. You are a sockpuppet and a troll. Out yourself.
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Seeing you type this smacks of profound irony; this is the typical level one wallows into when debating a Liberal; when confronted with their abject denial and lack of facts, they resort to childish schoolyard insults.
 
Truth Detector said:
Why do you so desperately troll and bait my posts? Did you have a coherent point to make, or feel compelled to wallow in abject denial of the arguments being made and fabricate your own version of reality?
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Again, please stop trying to derail the thread with personal attacks. If you can't address my points without them feel free to refrain from addressing me at all. Thanks.

They have a Government, they are a member of the UN and their Government does indeed have structure. The notion that they are in a state of anarchy requires the willing suspension of disbelief and a vacuum of reality or the facts:
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I never said that they were in a state of anarchy, I just thought it was silly that your proof of this was that they had a website. I still eagerly await proof that the Somali government was well aware of the practices of these pirates and gave them their blessing as you have asserted many times thus far without proof.

United Nations member states - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Executive branch: chief of state: Transitional Federal President Sheikh SHARIF Sheikh Ahmed (since 31 January 2009); note - a transitional governing entity with a five-year mandate, known as the Transitional Federal Institutions (TFIs), was established in October 2004; the TFIs relocated to Somalia in June 2004

Constitution: 25 August 1979, presidential approval 23 September 1979
note: the formation of transitional governing institutions, known as the Transitional Federal Government, is currently ongoing

head of government: Prime Minister Omar Abdirashid Ali SHARMARKE (since 13 February 2009)

cabinet: Cabinet appointed by the prime minister and approved by the Transitional Federal Assembly

election results: Sheikh SHARIF Sheikh Ahmed was elected president by the expanded Transitional Federal Assembly in Djibouti

Legislative branch: unicameral National Assembly

note: unicameral Transitional Federal Assembly (TFA) (550 seats; 475 members appointed according to the 4.5 clan formula, with the remaining 75 seats reserved for civil society and business persons)

Judicial branch: following the breakdown of the central government, most regions have reverted to local forms of conflict resolution, either secular, traditional Somali customary law, or Sharia (Islamic) law with a provision for appeal of all sentences

International organization participation: ACP, AfDB, AFESD, AMF, AU, CAEU, FAO, G-77, IBRD, ICAO, ICRM, IDA, IDB, IFAD, IFC, IFRCS, IGAD, ILO, IMF, IMO, Interpol, IOC, IOM, IPU, ITSO, ITU, LAS, NAM, OIC, UN, UNCTAD, UNESCO, UNHCR, UNIDO, UPU, WFTU, WHO, WIPO, WMO
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/so.html
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What exactly is copying and pasting this wikipedia article supposed to prove?

So please, stop this childish game you are playing and either make a point, or allow the posters I am debating to respond to my arguments.
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Again, please stop trying to derail the thread with personal attacks. How am I not allowing the posters you are debating to respond to your arguments?

My argument is clear: the reasons the world body and the US administration refuses to acknowledge the terrorism being conducted from the shores of Somalia is because they do not want to deal with the real problem; the nation as a whole and the rogue regime running it. They do this by claiming these are mere acts of piracy which relieves them from actively dealing with the root cause and conveniently avoids dealing with the Somali problem.
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I am well aware of your argument. What I want is proof not assumptions.

It would be more honest of you if you just stated you think I am full of **** instead of pretending you have a coherent counter-point.
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I wouldn't do that because I, unlike you, am not going to resort to personal attacks because it adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Run along now and troll and bait someone else’s posts. Your trite juvenile attempts are tiring and typical of your desperate attempts to avoid any substance.
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More personal attacks. Why are you so unwilling to address the topic instead of attacking me? Have you gotten it out of your system yet? Are you ready to provide proof of your assertions and therefore address the topic at hand?
 
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Truth Detector said:
So you want to compare a case of road rage to attacking international shipping with RPGs and AK-47's with the blessing of their own nation by terrorists?

It begs the question; you're kidding me right? The only thing ludicrous here are your rediculous analogies and desperate denial.
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Again, try reading please. Seriously, it will take you a long way if you just read and comprehend what is being done. You reduced everything to an individual scale. If someone held a .45 to your head, you'd be scared. You likened that to terrorism. I said that's stupid because there is a scale issue, terrorism isn't an individual or even small group phenomenon. It's an aggregate.

According to YOU, what I said about road rage is true. You'd have to label the road rage guy as a terrorist because he would have caused some people fear. A kid with a 2 L bottle, some drano, and aluminum foil you'd have to label a terrorist because he'd sure as hell scare some people. And that use of fear is what defines terrorist, right?

WRONG! Terrorism is a scale thing, terrorism includes using fear over an entire populace to force your whim, most usually directed against a government. You hold a people hostage and try to force a government to adopt rules or give into demands, that's the typical face of terrorism. It can take on many different forms, but I reserve the use of terrorist for large scale terror operations. These pirates where not trying to use fear to get their way. Sure, it's scary being held hostage, I'm not going to say it's not. But that's not an act of terrorism. The pirates were not trying to use that fear to get their way, they were trying to trade life for money, it was more commodity based than anything else.

No way shape or form where those pirates terrorists. Pirates could be terrorists I suppose, but they'd have to act well more cohesively in order to be able to affect the scale in which they could be properly deemed terrorist. I don't see that happening with this group.

Again, according to you mugger=terrorist. According to me mugger=individual crime.
 
Truth Detector said:
Without dealing with the ROOT cause of this terrorism of international shipping off the coast of Somalia, the Somali Government, how do you think these "liberals" are going to eliminate the threat of "piracy?"

This should be good for a few additional laughs. :rofl
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Let me type this in caps so even you can understand it
THERE IS NO SOMALI GOVERNMENT
 
Ikari said:
Again, try reading please. Seriously, it will take you a long way if you just read and comprehend what is being done. You reduced everything to an individual scale. If someone held a .45 to your head, you'd be scared. You likened that to terrorism. I said that's stupid because there is a scale issue, terrorism isn't an individual or even small group phenomenon. It's an aggregate.

According to YOU, what I said about road rage is true. You'd have to label the road rage guy as a terrorist because he would have caused some people fear. A kid with a 2 L bottle, some drano, and aluminum foil you'd have to label a terrorist because he'd sure as hell scare some people. And that use of fear is what defines terrorist, right?

WRONG! Terrorism is a scale thing, terrorism includes using fear over an entire populace to force your whim, most usually directed against a government. You hold a people hostage and try to force a government to adopt rules or give into demands, that's the typical face of terrorism. It can take on many different forms, but I reserve the use of terrorist for large scale terror operations. These pirates where not trying to use fear to get their way. Sure, it's scary being held hostage, I'm not going to say it's not. But that's not an act of terrorism. The pirates were not trying to use that fear to get their way, they were trying to trade life for money, it was more commodity based than anything else.

No way shape or form where those pirates terrorists. Pirates could be terrorists I suppose, but they'd have to act well more cohesively in order to be able to affect the scale in which they could be properly deemed terrorist. I don't see that happening with this group.

Again, according to you mugger=terrorist. According to me mugger=individual crime.
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....because you say so. Your entire premise requires re-defining terrorism to fit your myopic version of what the definition of terrorism is and requires you to ignore the point of my argument.

These acts are nothing more than terrorist acts and the world’s efforts to claim they are "pirates" is being used to avoid dealing with the rogue regime of Somalia.

Desperately comparing them to robbers or road rage is trite, simplistic and so obviously absurd as to be hysterical.

Carry on; your desperate desire to avoid the substance of my arguments and defend the terrorist actions of Somali citizens and their rogue regime has been noted. :2wave:
 
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