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Guns Legal Now In Texas' Work Place Parking Lots

Yay! This is a major boon for concealed carry license owners. It allows them to disarm and arm themselves when going to or leaving work. Beforehand you had to leave your firearm at home or not say anything about it if you had it in the car. Kinda defeated the purpose of a CCL.

This is really only something that benefits the CCL members. Criminals or those bent on having a shoot-out field day don't really care if you can keep a legally registered and secured firearm in their car at work.
 
This is unreasonable. Employers have every right to set restrictions on what employees can bring to the workplace. The right to own a gun does not mean you can bring it onto other peoples property against their will. If you want to bring a gun to work, find an employer who allows it or just park your car off the campus. I find the undermining of property rights disturbing.
 
Do you give up your fundamental human rights when you go to work?

Life, Liberty, pursuit of happiness?

None of which means much if you get murdered in the employee parking lot, for lack of the means to defend yourself.

I seem to recall the 1st Amendment right of freedom of religion has been seen by the Supreme Court to still exist in the workplace, as long as your religious expression is not disruptive to the workplace.

Like it or not, the 2nd Amendment is just as important as the 1st.

G.
 
None of which means much if you get murdered in the employee parking lot, for lack of the means to defend yourself.

Tell me how much it means when a psycho is allowed to kill everyone he comes across in a garage when he is allowed to carry a firearm?

What do you tell the victims of his assault?

Sorry but we allow people to carry firearms to work. Maybe if it was a family that got killed you would think differently. Unless you are a cold asshole that thought "Well who cares if my wife was killed by someone allowed to carry a firearm to work, I mean she was just my wife".

Maybe you are just one of those folks.
 
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Tell me how much it means when a psycho is allowed to kill everyone he comes across in a garage when he is allowed to carry a firearm?

What do you tell the victims of his assault?

Sorry but we allow people to carry firearms to work. Maybe if it was a family that got killed you would think differently. Unless you are a cold asshole that thought "Well who cares if my wife was killed by someone allowed to carry a firearm to work, I mean she was just my wife".

Maybe you are just one of those folks.

happily, murder is against the law.
 
Tell me how much it means when a psycho is allowed to kill everyone he comes across in a garage when he is allowed to carry a firearm?
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Yup, just like the law allowed the two Columbine boys to carry guns in school...oh wait a minute, that's illegal....gosh, I guess those psycho killers don't obey laws about not carrying firearms.

What in the HELL makes you think that some psycho, bent on mass murder, stops outside the door with the "No Guns Allowed" sign and says:

"Darn! I was going to go in there and kill twenty people, but I'm not allowed to bring a gun inside! Crap! I'll have to go somewhere else..."

THINK for a minute. They call them criminals, because they don't obey the law??

(PS if you're talking about people WITH carry permits, the violent crime rate for CCW holders is virtually zero.)


Unless you are a cold asshole that thought "Well who cares if my wife was killed by someone allowed to carry a firearm to work, I mean she was just my wife".

Maybe you are just one of those folks.

You know nothing about me bud, and that was uncalled for. My best friend was murdered in a robbery at his store when I was 24, for starters. I saw all kinds of crap as a cop, for another. "Cold" is not what I am; passionate about the right to life and the right to defend that life, is more like it.

G.
 
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This is unreasonable. Employers have every right to set restrictions on what employees can bring to the workplace. The right to own a gun does not mean you can bring it onto other peoples property against their will. If you want to bring a gun to work, find an employer who allows it or just park your car off the campus. I find the undermining of property rights disturbing.

All rights are not created equal. They exist in a hierarchy. Clearly, the right to self defense is greater than private property rights.
 
Do you give up your fundamental human rights when you go to work?

Life, Liberty, pursuit of happiness?

None of which means much if you get murdered in the employee parking lot, for lack of the means to defend yourself.

I seem to recall the 1st Amendment right of freedom of religion has been seen by the Supreme Court to still exist in the workplace, as long as your religious expression is not disruptive to the workplace.

Like it or not, the 2nd Amendment is just as important as the 1st.

G.

IMO my employer should be barred from forcing me to disarm while on his property, in his facilities, and on the clock performing my job, unless my concealed weapon interferes with the job (and yes, I can think of situations where it would).
 
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Tell me how much it means when a psycho is allowed to kill everyone he comes across in a garage when he is allowed to carry a firearm?
They all ready have places for people like that. I believe it's called a "gun free zone".

School shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That has a list of shootings... pretty much every one happened in a gun free zone.

Tell me TNE, why don't we hear about shooting sprees in say.. Police HQ's? Many people there carry guns...

What do you tell the victims of his assault?
If your loved one wasn't in a gun free zone, he might of had a chance to defend himself...


Sorry but we allow people to carry firearms to work.
Please list the number of shootings that happened in places where people are allowed to carry to work in the past say... 30 years.

Maybe if it was a family that got killed you would think differently. Unless you are a cold asshole that thought "Well who cares if my wife was killed by someone allowed to carry a firearm to work, I mean she was just my wife".

Maybe you are just one of those folks.

Maybe you're one of those people that ignores facts... like where are the most shooting sprees? Places people are not allowed to carry fire arms and thus become EASY PREY.
 
IMO my employer should be barred from forcing me to disarm while on his property, in his facilities, and on the clock performing my job, unless my concealed weapon interferes with the job (and yes, I can think of situations where it would).

Strippers? Prostitutes?
 
All rights are not created equal. They exist in a hierarchy. Clearly, the right to self defense is greater than private property rights.

If you want to go down that road, a criminal could then legally kill the owner of the persons house he is breaking into if the owner was trying to hurt him. After all, his right to protect himself trumps private property.
 
Yeah but the fact it is allowed to happen so easily must make you happy.


Did you drink a sixpack of "throw personal insults when I can't make a point" today, or is that just your normal mode of operation?
 
If you want to go down that road, a criminal could then legally kill the owner of the persons house he is breaking into if the owner was trying to hurt him. After all, his right to protect himself trumps private property.

Not really. The home owner has the double trump, House and life, where as the criminal is being subjected to on he spot punishment for his stupidity.
 
If you want to go down that road, a criminal could then legally kill the owner of the persons house he is breaking into if the owner was trying to hurt him. After all, his right to protect himself trumps private property.

Utter nonsense.

Self-defense law requires that you be
1. where you have a legal right to be
2. doing what you have a legal right to be doing

...in order for it to be considered self-defense.

Breaking and entering violates both.
 
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Strippers?

The gun becomes a prop....

Prostitutes?

I would support public funding to give prostitutes a concealed weapon.

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As a carpenter I enter into people's homes to perform my work. While I could carry without the homeowner likely finding out, an anti-gun homeowner would very likely fire my outfit if they found out any of us were carrying.

While the homeowner may not have grounds to sue, they would take their business elsewhere, so my boss could say "you can carry in the shop, but not onto a client’s property".

I don't recommend doing electrical work while carrying either.

It's a shame guns have a negative stigma.
 
Utter nonsense.

Self-defense law requires that you be
1. where you have a legal right to be
2. doing what you have a legal right to be doing

...in order for it to be considered self-defense.

Depends on where you live. Take the UK, they have job protection laws for criminals. IF you shoot someone who breaks into your home... you go to jail. WTF is up with that
 
Depends on where you live. Take the UK, they have job protection laws for criminals. IF you shoot someone who breaks into your home... you go to jail. WTF is up with that

True. Unfortunately its like that in the UK now.

I was, of course, referring to the USA in general, conservative States in particular, and the great Republic of Texas most definately. :mrgreen:
 
If you want to go down that road, a criminal could then legally kill the owner of the persons house he is breaking into if the owner was trying to hurt him. After all, his right to protect himself trumps private property.

In your example it is the homeowner who is already defending himself.

In Texas, it is assumed that anyone braking into your home after dark is making an assault on your life.
 
True. Unfortunately its like that in the UK now.

I was, of course, referring to the USA in general, conservative States in particular, and the great Republic of Texas most definately. :mrgreen:

That's why I live here :) You enter my home... I'll shoot you, and I won't stop to ask you to "freeze" I won't wait to figure out your intentions... I'll shoot you till you're dead. Then I'll call the cops to come clean up.
 
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