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Call for higher circumcision rate

and just how will you feel if he does not enjoy sex as much as he could have if you hadn't hacked the end of his **** off :lol:

If he's anything like me, he doesn't need to have any more stimulation. What he loses in sensitivity, he'll gain in extra time which is beneficial to the lady. Then he won't have to think of Rosie O' Donnell to keep from ejaculating too early. Everybody wins.
 
while orgasms are great, if they could be better due to higher sensitivity....
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Funny, i looked at your link. While many things in it has citations there are absolutely 0 citations I see in reference to its claim of a reduction of sensitivity. As I said, if there's a few legitimate scientific studies that say that there is significant loss of sensitivity that's one thing...but I've seen no definitive universal view on it one way or another
 
Its a cultural practice that doesn't have any negative effects. I don't see why people get so up in arms about it, as if its a big deal whether or not a kid gets circ'ed. Its not as if its done to keep a man down or something. Hopefully my son won't think he's less of a man, because he's missing a little bit of foreskin. If he does, I haven't raised him right.


Totally.

Its not as if [cutting off the clitoral hood] is done to keep a [wo]man down or something. Hopefully my [daughter] won't think she's less of a [wo]man, because she's missing a little bit of foreskin. If she does, I haven't raised her right.

What's amazing to me is that you folks who are so adamant about mutilating your infant boys seem to be disgusted at the idea of doing the same exact thing to your infant girls.
 
Especially a piece of skin that's supposed to ****ing be there to begin with.

For me, it doesn't even matter if it is natural or not when it comes to things like that. If you care about a person, then trivial things like appearances shouldn't matter.

If my wife were permanently disfigured by something, or grew a hump on her back, it wouldn't matter to me.
 
Totally.

Its not as if [cutting off the clitoral hood] is done to keep a [wo]man down or something. Hopefully my [daughter] won't think she's less of a [wo]man, because she's missing a little bit of foreskin. If she does, I haven't raised her right.

What's amazing to me is that you folks who are so adamant about mutilating your infant boys seem to be disgusted at the idea of doing the same exact thing to your infant girls.

We make it up by circumsizing your paychecks.
 
And yet the AAP doesn't recommend it for any reason.

That said, they do state in 1999 that there is Medical Benefits for having it done to newborn males.

They also do not recommend AGAINST it either. They specifically state that Parents should determine what is in the best interest of the child through accurate and unbiased information. It states there are benefits and risks.

Not endorsing something is not the same as recommending one does NOT do it. It simply is stating the the AAP views the risk and benefit for doing such an activity as something that parents are best suited to decide is not something they recommend against doing nor recommend to do.

It also notes that it was in 1989 that they shifted from recommending against it to actually recommending that parents DO take the time to make a decision, and that both decisions have legitimate reasons for doing so. They point out that studies on urinary tract infection and STD/AIDS show benefits in those that were circumsized, but also notes that there are risks to it as well.

So the AAP's policy seems to not be recommending against it. Their policy appears to be that there are legitimate reasons, including medical reasons, to do it and not to do it and parents should weigh those reasons from non-biased sources and make the choice themselves.

AAP's 1999 Circumcision Task Force
 
If you care about a person, then trivial things like appearances shouldn't matter.
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That's always been true for me. It must be- since I've never even been with an un-cut man. I can't believe someone would not be with someone because they weren't circumcised.
 
Says the woman who talks of flaying skin off an arm is the same as a snip of a small amount of skin on the penis. :roll:

I figure if you want to play the hyperbolic game I could to. Additionally, if you're going to take the most literal interpritation of degrades appearance possible then why should it not apply across the board?

I used the arm skin analogy because someone else said "it [circumcision] doesn't prevent the body part from functioning, so it's okay to do it". Context, my dear, context.

Oh, I see. So in U.S. its not considered it, but in the other countries it IS. Not considered, but IS.
Indeed. People who have cultural traditions, even ones that include mutilation, tend to think nothing is wrong with their cultural traditions. But people outside of those traditions, like most of the rest of the world and more than a 1/4 of the people in the US, it most certainly IS mutilation.

Well, naturally, because other cultures think its mutilation despite it not fitting the definition well it must be!
It DOES fit the definition. You showed us all that yourself.

I honestly can't speak on that. Does it provide any proven benefit outside of potentially looks? Does it have any significant chance of reducing sensation or use in anything more than an anecdotal way? Does it open up the area for any greater chance of infection or other issues?
It would decrease the likelihood of pain, discomfort, or infection under the clitoral hood. Exactly the same as the hood of the penis.

Circumsizing the penis helps with hygine so it has a tangable benefit. No credible study I've seen or heard from confirms that it has a significant chance of causing any actual reduction of stimulation or sensation. It does not raise ones chances to my knowledge of having any other medical issues involving the penis.
Uh huh. Let's cut off body parts because we're too lazy to wash them. EXCELLENT idea! In fact, let's not just do it to our OWN bodies, let's do it to our children's bodies who have absolutely no say in the matter whatsoever. Marvelous.

If its like that, then no I wouldn't have a problem if people wanted to do it. I wouldn't do it to my children because the health benefit is obviously not worth while enough for it to become common practice and the looks of it would actually make them appear odd because it'd be so outside the norm. But if it had absolutely no impact on the way in which it function in all facets of its use, gave rise to no possible further medical issues, and had some kind of tangible benefit I'd not begrudge someone having it done to their baby. That said, I don't think those are true in the case you state but perhaps I'm wrong.
Disgusting. Not going to "begrudge" someone for cutting off parts of their infant's bodies.

Not really. I'll tell you personally I'm damn happy my parents did it, because the fear and apprehension I have for needles and surgery...let alone down there...would probably keep me from doing it at an older age while at the same time being upset that I don't have it done. Having it done at a baby was the best option, as I had it done and I have no memory what so ever.
Well, if you didn't have the balls to do it when you were old enough to make the decision yourself, then that would be your problem. There's no way to know that a child is going to want to have it done, and the procedure is irreversible. As such, the child should be the one to decide, not his parents. Parents should not have the right to forceably remove parts of their children's bodies for reasons that do not inhibit or threaten their child's life.
 
"Don't knock it til you try it".

-John & Lorena Bobbet
 
That's always been true for me. It must be- since I've never even been with an un-cut man. I can't believe someone would not be with someone because they weren't circumcised.

Says someone who hasn't been with someone who has been cut. :2razz: :2wave:
 
I'm not going to get involved in a discussion of 'aesthetics.'

What I will say about circumcision is that I've never had a male friend, either gay or straight, complain to me that he was circumcised against his will. Not once. I've never personally met any circumcised man who's confided to me that he misses his foreskin. Not one.

Except a few very outspoken and opinionated folks on message boards.

:2wave:
 
I'm not going to get involved in a discussion of 'aesthetics.'

What I will say about circumcision is that I've never had a male friend, either gay or straight, complain to me that he was circumcised against his will. Not once. I've never personally met any circumcised man who's confided to me that he misses his foreskin. Not one.

Except a few very outspoken and opinionated folks on message boards.

:2wave:
How can they miss something they never experienced having? They don't even get the ****ing chance to know if they'd miss it or not. That choice is taken away from 75% of the men in this country.

I have no problem with any man who chooses to be circumcised. I do have a problem with parents making that decision for their children. We wouldn't put tattoos on our children, why in the world would we remove part of their body?
 
I'm not going to get involved in a discussion of 'aesthetics.'

What I will say about circumcision is that I've never had a male friend, either gay or straight, complain to me that he was circumcised against his will. Not once. I've never personally met any circumcised man who's confided to me that he misses his foreskin. Not one.

Except a few very outspoken and opinionated folks on message boards.

:2wave:


Aint that the truth!?

My husband had a friend in grad school who went in to be circ'ed as an adult.
 
How can they miss something they never experienced having? They don't even get the ****ing chance to know if they'd miss it or not. That choice is taken away from 75% of the men in this country.

I have no problem with any man who chooses to be circumcised. I do have a problem with parents making that decision for their children. We wouldn't put tattoos on our children, why in the world would we remove part of their body?

Have you seen studies claiming uncut men are significantly happier than those who have been circ'ed? I don't think circumcision or lack thereof plays a huge role in a man's life whether they're circ'ed or not. :roll:

Such hyperbole.
 
Pierced ears grow back.

I find it troubling that people are so quick to turn to genital mutilation to solve problems that are easily enough addressed by good personal hygiene and responsible sexual practices.

They don't care about the public health factor, they're only concern is the esthetics of someone else's body.

I think the US should pass a law creating Affirmative Circumcision Action, ensuring that at least as many girls get to enjoy their clitorectomies as boys get their cicrumcisions.

For some reason, weird people are willing to accept the sexual mutilation of boy for absolutely no reason at all.
 
There's no reason for piercing ears other than beauty.

Try telling an 8 year old boy to USE SOAP in the shower. If he doesn't care about the crud under his nails, on his face or in his crack, he's not gonna care about anything unseen under the foreskin. It's not until you boys start realizing that's something special down there that you acually start taking care of it.

Think of it as evolution in action. Boys that have their dicks rot off because they're filthy little pigs don't produce children to carry on those traits.

Not to mention the fact that your example is grossly unfair to the boys that do wash behind their ears and under their foreskin. No reason they should be punished in advance.

There's no medical justification for neo-natal routine circumcisions, only financial considerations for the doctor and hospital.
 
It DOES fit the definition. You showed us all that yourself.

:roll:

I really shouldn't talk. I mutilated my head last night and my chin this afternoon. I'm just a self mutilator man.

The only way it fits the definition is if you take it at the most literal as possible in that degrading of appearance = changing of appearance and if that is the way you're going to read the definition than you are mutilating your children every time you cut their hair or clip their nails.

Sorry, I'll go with what the AAP says. There are legitimate worth while medical reasons to do it to a newborn and PARENTS should make the decision whether to do it or not based on those risks and benefits, with neither side being significantly better than the other.
 
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So do you think it's wrong to pierce a baby's ears?

I do.

I forbade my wife from dressing up her new baby doll in earrings, because she was my little girl, not a doll.

The girl got her ears peirced when she was two, and that little fad lasted only a year or two, but only after she asked for it and was made to understand the issues involved as best she could.
 
I guess my son's specialist is a quack. He knows less than you. So far, he's kept my son's sole kidney in good health. I'll continue to trust him.

Well, you see...there are, occasionally, in rare instances, an explicit medical reason to do certain things.

That does not justify the routine circumcision of all boys, just as the fact that a large percentage of women will get potentially fatal breast cancer can justify performing radical mastectomies on all girls.

When a medical issue arises, deal with it. That's all.

Circumcisions should not even be performed for religious ceremonies.
 
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