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Sudan leader: No international court can touch me

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Sudan leader: No international court can touch me

KHARTOUM, Sudan – A defiant Sudanese president rallied Arab supporters in Darfur Wednesday by saying no war crimes court or the U.N. Security Council can touch even "an eyelash" on him despite an international order for his arrest.

Speaking to thousands at a rally near the southern Darfur town of Nyala, Omar al-Bashir denounced the West for allegedly seeking to "create chaos in Sudan" and trying to split Darfur from the rest of the country.

His remarks reflected his confidence amid support from the Arab League, whose chief Amr Moussa said this week that the 22-nation group will not act on the International Criminal Court's arrest warrant when al-Bashir flies to an Arab summit in Qatar at the end of the montth.

"No ICC or Security Council or any other party will change our path or touch an eyelash in our eye," al-Bashir shouted at the rally in Niyala's nomad Sabadou area. "The president of Sudan is not elected by Britain or America. Sudan is an independent country."
Sudan leader: No international court can touch me

I have a question for the pro-UN types:
What do you suggest the UN do about this guy and his defiance of the UN and ICC?
 
The arrest warrant will hurt any efforts to promote peace and stability in Sudan. I think the international court could have done this at a better time.
 
Sudan leader: No international court can touch me

I have a question for the pro-UN types:
What do you suggest the UN do about this guy and his defiance of the UN and ICC?

Invade Sudan, overthrow Bashir and topple his government, establish a free government with a large portion of seats granted to natives of Darfur. Seems to always work :)

And how many ****ing guys just like this idiot are there? In all these third-world toilets, there are these guys that love to parade around in military uniforms when their not in the military and love to commit vicious crimes against their own people. Mugabe, Saddam, Bashir... to name a few
 
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Sudan leader: No international court can touch me

I have a question for the pro-UN types:
What do you suggest the UN do about this guy and his defiance of the UN and ICC?

I seriously think we should get Blackwater to do it. Have some millionaire or some other dictator hire assassins quietly, in a way that leaves them safe legally. This guy wasn't commiting genocide on the up-and-up, and I don't see why he should even get a fair warning of his upcoming dethroning.
 
I seriously think we should get Blackwater to do it. Have some millionaire or some other dictator hire assassins quietly, in a way that leaves them safe legally. This guy wasn't commiting genocide on the up-and-up, and I don't see why he should even get a fair warning of his upcoming dethroning.

Wow, your right. I forgot entirely about using mercenaries. Not just blackwater though... but in a testament to the success of mercenaries against african irregulars, look up the rebellion in angola during the early/mid 90s.

Anyways, using special forces from several western countries in cohesion with mercenaries to stop the genocide in darfur and then to embolden a civil force to defend Darfur would work. As for the Sudanese president, I don't really know how to arrest him. Search for rivals and aid them... every one of these guys has enemies.
 
The arrest warrant will hurt any efforts to promote peace and stability in Sudan. I think the international court could have done this at a better time.

Right out of the playbook of al-Bashir, the Chinese, and other thugs who only want this genocide to continue to go on. This is a clear case of genocide even if the AU and UN want to put their heads in the sand on that.

When is this "better time"? When the people of Darfur are all dead/displaced? This is LONG OVERDUE.

THough, sadly at this point, the Sudanese president is right that the court can't touch him. He will soon be attending the Arab League summit in Doha, and they have already said that they will NOT apprehend him and send him to competent court authorities.
 
Democracy in Sudan wouldn't last one year.
Most Sudanese don't recognize themselves as "Sudanese". That's a fairly Euro-Centric idea, Nationalism and such.
 
Bashir is committing genocide upon the ethnic Africans and he needs to be stopped. Ideally he would be put on trial, but if that is not possible, killing him is not out of the question. The crimes he has committed cannot be allowed to continue.
 
A Marine sniper team armed with a M-40A3 should have no problems reaching out and touching him.

Thats what marines are for, they are problem solvers.
 
Bashir is committing genocide upon the ethnic Africans and he needs to be stopped. Ideally he would be put on trial, but if that is not possible, killing him is not out of the question. The crimes he has committed cannot be allowed to continue.

Agreed.

Al Bashir is a ****bag who needs to be stopped.

He can turn himself into the Hauge or he can suffer the consequences.

**** him and his terrorist regime.
 
A Marine sniper team armed with a M-40A3 should have no problems reaching out and touching him.

Thats what marines are for, they are problem solvers.

I'm sorry, did you miss your exit? This forum is reserved for people who don't live in the movies.
 
Luxembourg could kick the hell out of the Sudan..



What is going on is extermination of non-arabs by the Arab north.
The south experienced the same thing in the 80's..remember Live Aid, etc?
In the end they fought back and managed to at the very least cause the Government to go kill those in the west(Darfur region) for a while...took them 20 years and mountains of dead.
The Sudan is not a unified nation the South for all intents is a seperate nation. WHich coudl be useful in any attmept ot sotp the Genocdie.


Oh well..UN has declared it "Ethnic Cleansing" and an "Unfortunate Circumstance" IOW in plain English nothing is going to be done about it.


Past all that..

"He is only killing his own people"

"USA has no business sticking its nose into others affairs"

"If these people do not like it they should stand up themselves and fight"

The Sudan is an enemy state which prior to 9/11 hosted Osama bin Laden. Its government not only supplies and supports various Terrorist but is also actively involved in Genocide. Hell... even Clinton bombed them once.



BTW our allies are being defeated by al-Qaeda in Somalia and we are doing nothing of any worth to help them either.
 
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The problem is the Security Council, and always has been. As long as countries with a bias in this matter have the veto, there will be no collective action to enforce the ICC's ruling. Without that collective mandate, it will be difficult for any one country to launch an operation to take him out without suffering consequences from the other entangled nations.
 
I'm sorry, did you miss your exit? This forum is reserved for people who don't live in the movies.

movie? How so?
 
Assassinating him will simply replace him with the next in line . The policies of the state will not change. in fact they will use his assassination as propaganda to intensify the genocide occuring. Its the same flaw wiht the just assassinate Saddam nonsense most of the left played in the inital months of Iraq and Afghanistan.


The solution to this Genocide is War. War as in armies invading, occupying territory, removing the government. etc.

Until the "west" decides to fight this War(Sudan is as much an enemy of ours as the Taliban and al Qaeda..they are already part of this war) as a War and not "politically correct police actions against upset people who we need to understand" the Genocide in Darfur will continue until the Sudanese government feels its done..then they will go back to slaughtering those in the South.

Welcome to the bloodiest and largest non-world war* world war in history.



*-World Wars are shooting wars between major powers.
 
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The problem is the Security Council, and always has been. As long as countries with a bias in this matter have the veto, there will be no collective action to enforce the ICC's ruling. Without that collective mandate, it will be difficult for any one country to launch an operation to take him out without suffering consequences from the other entangled nations.

The ironic thing is that the UNSC directed the Prosecutor of the ICC to investigate the situation in Sudan nearly FOUR YEARS AGO. There have been more than two dozen resolutions, and NOTHING constructive has occurred. Now, certain members of the UNSC have forgotten the resolution from 2005 directing the ICC to go after those responsible.
 
The ironic thing is that the UNSC directed the Prosecutor of the ICC to investigate the situation in Sudan nearly FOUR YEARS AGO. There have been more than two dozen resolutions, and NOTHING constructive has occurred. Now, certain members of the UNSC have forgotten the resolution from 2005 directing the ICC to go after those responsible.

No one has really "forgotten"... it's that taking action is against the political interests of many on the Security Council.
 
I don't know, but it was on tv tonight and it is BOSS.

I have a large action figure of Arnold from that movie.

Up until you mentioned it I thought it was from Predator.
Now I'm definitely going to find it some where.

More to the subject in the thread we should send in Chuck Norris.
Chuck doesn't fight anyone, they die of fear.
 
because the US government has no black ops teams, and never kills any leaders of enemy countries.

Commando was based on a true story, so was Rambo .. they were brothers.
 
He may have a long lost brother, i did not get all the way though the movie.
 
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