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Selling sex legally in New Zealand

What is New Zealand going to do with a bunch of rich sheep?
 
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BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Selling sex legally in New Zealand

How sensible, New Zealand is to be commended.

Somehow I doubt many would agree to this in either the US nor EU.

A couple thoughts:

1:
When "Sophie", a medical worker from Christchurch, fell behind on her mortgage payments last year, she found that her job was not paying enough. Her only option was a temporary career change: she became a prostitute.

Even assuming she handled her finances correctly (being debt free except the mortgage, emergency fund which could support her for 6-12 month, taking a 15 year loan with 20% down, etc), assuming she couldn't take out a second mortgage on any existing equity, the most appropriate action here is to sell the home and rent until she gets back on her feet; not become a prostitute.

2:
Sex workers have the same rights as everyone else. In the eyes of New Zealand's law, the oldest profession is just like any other.

Even though "shaman" is a much older profession than "prostitute", the earliest records of prostitution (Third Dynasty of Ur c. 2050 B.C.) show that they were slaves.

Some "profession" :roll:
 
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So if you skip out on your bill, will you be charged with "shoplifting" or rape? :shock:
 
Kudos to New Zealand for coming out of the dark ages. Now if only we could get our own country to follow suit and stop criminalizing the selling of something that's perfectly legal to give away.

A couple thoughts:

1:


Even assuming she handled her finances correctly (being debt free except the mortgage, emergency fund which could support her for 6-12 month, taking a 15 year loan with 20% down, etc), assuming she couldn't take out a second mortgage on any existing equity, the most appropriate action here is to sell the home and rent until she gets back on her feet; not become a prostitute.
Yes yes... because in Jerry's world, only Jerry's way is the right way. :roll:

Many people take up a second job to supplement income when needed. There's nothing wrong with doing that.
 
So if you skip out on your bill, will you be charged with "shoplifting" or rape? :shock:

What happens if you don't pay for services rendered in any other profession? They sue you for the money.
 
What happens if you don't pay for services rendered in any other profession?

I don't know, I pay my bills

They sue you for the money.

I've never paid for such "services", but have received some pretty shabby "service" for free on more than one occasion.

I'm going out on a limb here, and guessing there will be some counter suits for the exact same reason.
 
I'm going out on a limb here, and guessing there will be some counter suits for the exact same reason.

No they won't. Their wives would find out if they did. :2wave:
 
No they won't. Their wives would find out if they did. :2wave:

Married guys don't count, they started paying for it the second they said "I do".

And, IF they happen to be purchasing any on the side, they're probably so overjoyed at the attention, that the quality of the service isn't their primary objective, but just getting something, anything, is.
 
I know that legalization of prostitution is popular among libertarian types. Unfortunately, I'd have to say that most women (or men) who enter this profession were traumatized in some way. And the resort to prostitution is simply a desperate and awful way of surviving what is already a problematic life.

In theory this may be a victimless activity. In practice, not so much.

:(
 
Yes yes... because in Jerry's world, only Jerry's way is the right way. :roll:

Heh, I got news for ya: It's not my way. It's someone else's qualified and credentialed, tried and proven way, which I happen to agree with.
 
I know that legalization of prostitution is popular among libertarian types. Unfortunately, I'd have to say that most women (or men) who enter this profession were traumatized in some way. And the resort to prostitution is simply a desperate and awful way of surviving what is already a problematic life.

In theory this may be a victimless activity. In practice, not so much.

:(

Ya know, I feel the same way about sewer workers. What kind of ****ed up damaged person must you be to willingly tromp around in other people's feces? It must be a desperate and awful way of surviving what is already a problematic life. It theory, this may be a victimless activity. In practice, not so much.
 
Heh, I got news for ya: It's not my way. It's someone else's qualified and credentialed, tried and proven way, which I happen to agree with.

Uh huh. :roll:

So, someone else's "tried and proven way" is to sell your home instead of working a second job temporarily to get rid of some debt?

Well, that is ONE way to attempt to remedy a bad financial situation. But I really hate to tell ya.... it's not the ONLY way. A great many people work a second job.
 
I know that legalization of prostitution is popular among libertarian types. Unfortunately, I'd have to say that most women (or men) who enter this profession were traumatized in some way. And the resort to prostitution is simply a desperate and awful way of surviving what is already a problematic life.

In theory this may be a victimless activity. In practice, not so much.

:(

Most women who enter into prostitution are either duped, naive, or are already victim of other sex crimes. Those few who do not already have psychological issues will likely develop them quickly in due course of prostitution.

Welcome back to the dark ages, where owning another person’s body as a commodity is called liberty.
 
I've never paid for such "services", but have received some pretty shabby "service" for free on more than one occasion.

I'm going out on a limb here, and guessing there will be some counter suits for the exact same reason.

Why wouldn't there be countersuits? There are in any other profession as well. Prostitution is no different. Services rendered are services rendered. And while you may not have purchased sexual services, I'd be willing to be the bank that you've purchased a crapload of other services. You know how it works, you know how the company policies work for refunds and dissatisfied customers, you know how the civil suits work for non-payment and for suing for unfinished or shabby work. There's no reason to presume it would be different in one profession than it is in another.
 
Of course prostitutuion should not be illegal...It must be taxed and controlled..
; the world's more modern and tolerant nations will do this, finally the more backward and conservative countries will follow suit..
This takes time....
 
Uh huh. :roll:

Mhmm, check my avatar :mrgreen:

So, someone else's "tried and proven way" is to sell your home instead of working a second job temporarily to get rid of some debt?

You are ignoring my qualifers....deliboratly?

Well, that is ONE way to attempt to remedy a bad financial situation. But I really hate to tell ya.... it's not the ONLY way. A great many people work a second job.

Sure, but slavery is not a job.
 
Most women who enter into prostitution are either duped, naive, or are already victim of other sex crimes. Those few who do not already have psychological issues will likely develop them quickly in due course of prostitution.
Yes, yes... in Jerryland, of course. Where Jerry thinks he knows the mind of all the people in a profession. :roll:

Welcome back to the dark ages, where owning another person’s body as a commodity is called liberty.
Does your boss own YOUR body? Do your customers own your body? Why make such blatantly erroneous statements?
 
There's no dignity and honor in prostitution which is why even when it is made legal it maintains its stigma. It's almost always closely associated with criminal activity, legal or not. It does nothing to curb human trafficking for sex slaves and in many cases increases human trafficking as it increases demand at a higher rate than it can provide voluntary sex workers.
 
Of course prostitutuion should not be illegal...It must be taxed and controlled..

Yay for taxing slavery :2wave:

; the world's more modern and tolerant nations will do this, finally the more backward and conservative countries will follow suit..
This takes time....

Regulated prostitution fails every time it's tried.
 
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