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The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for

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zimmer said:
And he's sent his wife out on the trail to show they support the troops.
Horse hockey.
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I heard a Prof from Harvard speak about Obama, his arrogance and narrow mindedness.
This is further proof.
Like we needed any further proof as his voting record showed no bipartisanship.
He voted party line all the time; that's how you get the most liberal record.

He's just another lib that looks at the military as something to be cut and weakened.
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He is trying to generate over half a billion dollars with this? How about not giving multi-billion dollar bailout to ****ed up companies,How about cutting off foreign aid that would eliminate the need to generate that money.

Isn't Obama the same man that believes in socialized medicine? Wouldn't making vets pay for their own treatment or buy their own insurance contradict the whole notion of supporting socialized medicine?
 
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Due to objections from veterans groups, the White House has dropped consideration of this plan
 
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Goobieman said:
Yes, that's what -you- keep saying.

Which is why you know that you cannot quote my argument and tell me exaclty how I am wrong -- without being intellectuall dishonest, anyway -- and why you do everything you can to avoid having to do so.

All you need to do is tell me how I am wrong.
But you won't.
Because you know you cannot.

Given that, the position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.

Thanks for playing -- next time, step up your game.
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I've read your posts. Not only do I not see a substantive argument, but I do see that you do not understand the concept of socialized medicine.

Please, next time you attempt to debate, understand what you are debating.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Just in cased you weren't born then, Afghanistan attacked the United States on September 11, 2001.
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:laughat::slapme:

Did they indeed? Go on, find us a source.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
-- The government controlling Afghanistan was a muslim fanatic regime and thus lacked the civilized courtesy and the courage to announce their actions in advance or take responsiblity for them after.

Regardless, they initiated a war with the United States with their attack on September 11, 2001.
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I'd still like a source that says Afghanistan launched an attack on the US at any time in the last 2-300 years of US history. :lol:

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Didn't say it was. Said it was "Democrat".
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What? US Democrats in govt at the time were still "the US" - thus an offensive war by the US on another nation.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
-- Look at a map of Asia some day. If you lack the ability to comprehend after seeing that, and don't understand the geopolitical issues of the day, don't come back, you're out of your league.
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Nice try, but fail.

Did they invade the US or attack the US like Japan did in WW2?
And if you read what Orius said - he said "recent", not "all....."[/QUOTE]

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
-- Gee, if you restrict you view of American history to the last three major conflicts, the "majority" of them as "offensive".
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OK, Panama, Grenada etc.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
The United States is sooo evil, isn't it?
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No, that's you having a "boohoo" moment.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Let me guess, you're going to pretend to not know that Obama bin Laden was appointed Afghanistan's Commander-in-Chief in the months preceding Afghanistan's attack on the US, right?
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No, that is common knowledge - however the 9/11 attacks were Al'Qaeda - not Afghanistan's govt launching attacks on US soil.
 
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GottaHurt said:
AGAIN, by the definition supplied by your own link.

Anyone who receives care at a military or VA hospital can’t avoid noticing that there are plenty of folks working in those facilities who are not government employees --
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If you argue that European nations with a nationalised healthcare system are "socialised" systems then you also have to understand that even within a National Health System that many employees aren't govt employees either.

Many doctors and surgeons within a European social healthcare program are privately employed too - or are allowed to work part-and-part within their public and private contracts.

GottaHurt said:
Socialized medicine: A system of health care in which all health personnel and health facilities, including doctors and hospitals, work for the government and draw salaries from the government.
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By this definition - there are no socialised healthcare systems in Europe then.

You would find it near impossible to find a healthcare system in Europe anymore in which ALL employees are govt paid.
 
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winston53660 said:
I wonder what kind of health care all the private contractors in Iraq ?
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None, they have to purchase thier own care for the most part as workman's comp does not apply, Though most all of them are VA eligible due to thier prior service. ;)
 
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wow, how anyone can even defend this move is mind blowing.

You send these guys to war, and when they get hurt, you want them to pay for it?

Why don't you just make them buy their own guns, ammo, armor, and radios while you are at it.

Why not charge then a fee to ride on the c130s.

How the left could hate the people protecting them .. i just don't understand
 
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WillRockwell said:
Due to objections from veterans groups, the White House has dropped consideration of this plan
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So that is supposed to make it all better? F Obama.
 
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What he wants, and what he can get passed is completely different. But both show the direction he wants to send our country.
 
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bilbus said:
wow, how anyone can even defend this move is mind blowing.

You send these guys to war, and when they get hurt, you want them to pay for it?

Why don't you just make them buy their own guns, ammo, armor, and radios while you are at it.

Why not charge then a fee to ride on the c130s.

How the left could hate the people protecting them .. i just don't understand
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Just another partisan rant without any substance. The conclusions you draw are so ridiculous, I can't stop laughing. :rofl
 
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OMG, the LEFT hates our nation's veterans! The LEFT hates our nation's veterans!

The head of the Senate Veterans Affairs committee, Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii, said Tuesday his committee would "not advance any such legislation."

His counterpart in the House, Bob Filner, D-California, said his committee wouldn't take up the proposal either. In a statement released by his office, Filner said the idea is "DOA" and said the budget "cannot be balanced on the backs (or legs, or kidneys, or hearts) of our nation's combat-wounded heroes."

Obama dropping vets insurance proposal - CNN.com
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aps said:
OMG, the LEFT hates our nation's veterans! The LEFT hates our nation's veterans!
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Editor's Correction:
OMG, virtually the entire LEFT hates our nation's veterans and active military! Virtually the entire LEFT hates our nation's veterans and active military! Intel and police included.

Not exactly breaking news, but always worth pointing out.
Good job aps.
 
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The very idea that this was even considered .. is enough for me.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
I've read your posts. Not only do I not see a substantive argument, but I do see that you do not understand the concept of socialized medicine.

Please, next time you attempt to debate, understand what you are debating.
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All you need to do is tell me how I am wrong.
But you won't.
Because you know you cannot.

Given that, the position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
 
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funny how only having only one choice for anything other then health care is considered a bad thing.

Why do you want to give the government so much power over your life.
 
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Goobieman said:
All you need to do is tell me how I am wrong.
But you won't.
Because you know you cannot.

Given that, the position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
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So we're really back on that again after getting yourself totally trounced yesterday?

Some people are just incapable of learning. :lol:
 
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jallman said:
So we're really back on that again after getting yourself totally trounced yesterday?
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Its impossible to (honestly) claim that I have been trounced when you have not explained, in any way, how I am wrong.

When you think you can do that, get back to me.

Until then:
The position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.

Some people are just incapable of learning. :lol:
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Nice to see you can laugh at yourself and your good buddy, CC.
 
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Goobieman said:
Nice to see you can laugh at yourself and your good buddy, CC.
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Oh the old, "I know you are but what am I" schtick. Ever the clever one, eh goobie? :lol:
 
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jallman said:
Oh the old, "I know you are but what am I" schtick. Ever the clever one, eh goobie? :lol:
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Its about all your comemnt was worth.
Of course, your need to revert to personal insults says a lot about you.

I also see you ignored the part where you havent done anything to show that I am wrong.

Its impossible to (honestly) claim that I have been trounced when you have not explained, in any way, how I am wrong.

When you think you can do that, get back to me.

Until then:
The position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
 
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Goobieman said:
Its about all your comemnt was worth.
Of course, your need to revert to personal insults says a lot about you.

I also see you ignored the part where you havent done anything to show that I am wrong.

Its impossible to (honestly) claim that I have been trounced when you have not explained, in any way, how I am wrong.

When you think you can do that, get back to me.

Until then:
The position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
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Okay, goobie. All your "I know you are but what am I's" notwithstanding. :lol:
 
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jallman said:
Okay, goobie. All your "I know you are but what am I's" notwithstanding. :lol:
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If this is how you need to skulk away, so be it.

Fact remains, neither you nor your good buddy CC have explained how I am wrong.
 
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Goobieman said:
If this is how you need to skulk away, so be it.

Fact remains, neither you nor your good buddy CC have explained how I am wrong.
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I'm sure that's true in your own mind. But only there.
 
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jallman said:
I'm sure that's true in your own mind. But only there.
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Really.

Well, if that's true, then you can point to the post where either of you, in a specific manner, showed how my argument is wrong.

Get busy there, sport.

AND...while you're at it... why dont you insult me some more!
That will go a LONG way to show -everyone- how right you are!

Until then:
The position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
 
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Goobieman said:
Really.

Well, if that's true, then you can point to the post where either of you, ina specific manner, showed how my argument wrong.

Get busy there, sport.

AND...while you're at it... why dont you insult me some more!
That will go a LONG way to show -everyone- how right you are!

Until then:
The position stands, all of your "nuh-us" not witstanding.
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Yeah, read the thread. It wasn't just CC that trounced you. It was everyone. As usual.

The problem I find with you and your "arguments" is that they aren't arguments at all. You present a supposition, totally unfounded, and then croon around like bantum rooster cawing "I win, I win".

It's really funny the first few times but, like a stray dog that pees on your lawn one too many times, it becomes tiresome and only worthy of ridicule and scorn.
 
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