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Officials: Afghanistan Taliban leader was at Gitmo

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Officials: Afghanistan Taliban leader was at Gitmo

The Associated Press: Officials: Afghanistan Taliban leader was at Gitmo

.S. officials say the Taliban's new top operations officer in southern Afghanistan is a former prisoner at the Guantanamo detention center. Pentagon and CIA officials say Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul was among 13 prisoners released to the Afghan government in December 2007.
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So we rushed to force Bush to release prisoners at GITMO, Rushed to give them constitutional rights, and look at us now reaping what was sewn.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
So we rushed to force Bush to release prisoners at GITMO, Rushed to give them constitutional rights, and look at us now reaping what was sewn.
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I'm sorry, but who forced Bush to release the prisoners at GITMO? Is it really that hard for you to find any fault with Bush for doing this? It just seems to me that if the story were reversed and it was Obama who released them that you would be criticizing him for doing so instead of blaming it on some seemingly invisible scapegoat as you are doing here. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
dclxvinoise said:
I'm sorry, but who forced Bush to release the prisoners at GITMO? Is it really that hard for you to find any fault with Bush for doing this? It just seems to me that if the story were reversed and it was Obama who released them that you would be criticizing him for doing so instead of blaming it on some seemingly invisible scapegoat as you are doing here. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
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I fully blame bush for caving into left wing pressure. I also blame the supreme court for affording constitutional rights to non citizen savages in direct opposition to a previous ruling.


Any other assumptions you would like to make? :2wave:
 
dclxvinoise said:
I'm sorry, but who forced Bush to release the prisoners at GITMO? Is it really that hard for you to find any fault with Bush for doing this? It just seems to me that if the story were reversed and it was Obama who released them that you would be criticizing him for doing so instead of blaming it on some seemingly invisible scapegoat as you are doing here. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
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don't worry, they'll all be out terrorizing soon enough....:doh



j-mac
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I fully blame bush for caving into left wing pressure. I also blame the supreme court for affording constitutional rights to non citizen savages in direct opposition to a previous ruling.
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Well, in the end it was really his decision, wasn't it? The left wing pressure has nothing to do with it. There are always going to be people who disagree with government policy. And like I said, I'm not sure if you would be making similar excuses for Obama if the situation had been flipped.

Any other assumptions you would like to make? :2wave:
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It wasn't an assumption. I just stated that it appeared to me that way and was willing to be corrected if I was incorrect. I did that because I knew you'd find a way to perceive it as some sort of attack. I was trying to ask a legitimate question.
 
j-mac said:
don't worry, they'll all be out terrorizing soon enough....:doh



j-mac
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I'm not worried and that had absolutely nothing to do with the points I brought up.
 
Oh well ...

Now, if they are in Iraq/Afghanistan. Headshot. Problem solved. Move on.
 
dclxvinoise said:
Well, in the end it was really his decision, wasn't it? The left wing pressure has nothing to do with it. There are always going to be people who disagree with government policy. And like I said, I'm not sure if you would be making similar excuses for Obama if the situation had been flipped.
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GITMO is still open. Obama promised to close it. We see what happens when we release savages before the end of a war. What is your point?


It wasn't an assumption. I just stated that it appeared to me that way and was willing to be corrected if I was incorrect. I did that because I knew you'd find a way to perceive it as some sort of attack. I was trying to ask a legitimate question.
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What attack? I simply answered your question which was about me, not really the topic. Are you really complaining now? If so let me know so I can ignore you. If not, cool, lets talk about this subject then. Your choice.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
GITMO is still open. Obama promised to close it. We see what happens when we release savages before the end of a war. What is your point?
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Which, again, has nothing to do with my point.

What attack? I simply answered your question which was about me, not really the topic. Are you really complaining now? If so let me know so I can ignore you. If not, cool, lets talk about this subject then. Your choice.
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Ah, I see that you are still playing the baiting game. I asked you a legitimate question and you got a bit defensive about it and I explained to you that I specifically said that I was willing to be corrected if I was incorrect to avoid the typical drama that swarms around your threads and it seems that you are incapable of having a discussion without that happening. So please, feel free to ignore me. Oh, and I was discussing your views, not you personally so don't try that old song and dance.
 
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j-mac said:
Sure it did, and I'll make this easy to illustrate....Do you believe that Gitmo should be closed?


j-mac
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Yes, it is a terrorist factory.
 
j-mac said:
You should be....Would you like them as neighbors?
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You told me not to worry, which is why I said that I'm not worried. Now you are telling me that I should worry? Make up your mind. By the way, I don't subscribe to the typical propaganda fear mongering that has plagued our government during a large portion of the Bush Administration.

Sure it did, and I'll make this easy to illustrate....Do you believe that Gitmo should be closed?

j-mac
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I don't think Gitmo should have existed in the first place.
 
dclxvinoise said:
Which, again, has nothing to do with my point.
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Well I will wait with baited breath for you to release this all elusive "point" you have.... :roll:

Ah, I see that you are still playing the baiting game. I asked you a legitimate question and you got a bit defensive about it and I explained to you that I specifically said that I was willing to be corrected if I was incorrect to avoid the typical drama that swarms around your threads and it seems that you are incapable of having a discussion without that happening. So please, feel free to ignore me.
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What baiting game? you cried that I attacked you which I did no such thing. You started in on me and now you are bitching at me. Your peurile little fights and tantrums are tiring....


Now either address the topic and stop whining or go away. No one cares if your feelings are hurt because you don't like my tone.


Fact is YOU baited me. You started in on me. and now YOU are crying foul....


JEESH lighten up this is the internet.. :lamo
 
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dclxvinoise said:
You told me not to worry, which is why I said that I'm not worried. Now you are telling me that I should worry? Make up your mind. By the way, I don't subscribe to the typical propaganda fear mongering that has plagued our government during a large portion of the Bush Administration.
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How about the fear mongering of the present administration. Have any issues with that?

I don't think Gitmo should have existed in the first place.
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Where should we have put the war captured?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Well I will wait with baited breath for you to release this all elusive "point" you have.... :roll:
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I already explained my point. I still am skeptical that you would be making similar excuses for Obama if the situation were flipped. I'm simply wondering why you seem to be blaming this still invisible scapegoat for Bush releasing this guy. You say you blame him, but nowhere in your post does it indicate that.

What baiting game? you cried that I attacked you which I did no such thing. You started in on me and now you are bitching at me. Your peurile little fights and tantrums are tiring....
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No, I said that I clarified that I was willing to be corrected in case you perceived what I said as a personal attack. And here we go with more baiting.

Now either address the topic and stop whining or go away. No one cares if your feelings are hurt because you don't like my tone. JEESH lighten up this is the internet.. :lamo
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I addressed your views on the topic. If you don't like it simply ignore my posts already. Where did I indicate that my feelings are hurt? Are you just going to continue trying to bait me or are you going to answer my questions?
 
dclxvinoise said:
You told me not to worry, which is why I said that I'm not worried.
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Oh brother...:roll: You really don't know what that phrase meant? :shock:


By the way, I don't subscribe to the typical propaganda fear mongering that has plagued our government during a large portion of the Bush Administration.
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Well, you made my point quite clearly, thank you. You don't believe that we are at war with Muslim fundamentalists radicals therefore you see our actions as ignoble....In order to reach this I have to conclude that you are a product of hours and hours of indoctrination from such sources as Keith Olberman of MSNBC defame, or Amy Goodman of Democracy Now defame. In either case talking points are little argument for the truth of the matter, and I just have little use for dupes or propaganda spreaders....sorry.


j-mac
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Historically in war, when are the war captured tried, and or released. Please cite links for your answer.
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I don't think you can find a historical reference for a global war on terror and how to react to it.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
How about the fear mongering of the present administration. Have any issues with that?
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What fear mongering would that be? I've yet to hear them tell us anything that is on par with using duct tape and plastic sheeting in case of chemical warfare.

Where should we have put the war captured?
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You act as if we had absolutely no solutions before Gitmo when it has only been active since 2002. What was so wrong with what we were doing before that?
 
dclxvinoise said:
I already explained my point. I still am skeptical that you would be making similar excuses for Obama if the situation were flipped. I'm simply wondering why you seem to be blaming this still invisible scapegoat for Bush releasing this guy. You say you blame him, but nowhere in your post does it indicate that.
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So I told you as soon as you asked. Why you are harping on nonsense is beyond me but not unexpected.



No, I said that I clarified that I was willing to be corrected in case you perceived what I said as a personal attack. And here we go with more baiting.
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I corrected you. You started crying about baiting. Not my problem.


I addressed your views on the topic. If you don't like it simply ignore my posts already. Where did I indicate that my feelings are hurt? Are you just going to continue trying to bait me or are you going to answer my questions?
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Your tone, your paranoia about being baited. No one is baiting here except for you. And I am laughing, and its not with you.



Note your lack of addressing the actual topic. Who is baiting?



It is in my opinion, and no offense. but when posters refuse to address the topic and instead pounds the poster relentlessly, I question thier intellectual prowess.... Do you really want me to think of you as intellectually wanting?


Thanks!
 
dclxvinoise said:
What fear mongering would that be? I've yet to hear them tell us anything that is on par with using duct tape and plastic sheeting in case of chemical warfare.
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Since you are being hyper-partisan, I am not surprised by your answer.


They all but admit it.

Western Standard

I am sorry you can't see the "we need to pass all this spending or we are doomed" fear mongering....

You act as if we had absolutely no solutions before Gitmo when it has only been active since 2002. What was so wrong with what we were doing before that?
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what were we doing before that again?
 
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