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A family's year of 'buying black'

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A family's year of 'buying black' - Los Angeles Times

Reporting from Chicago -- Maggie Anderson drives 14 miles to buy groceries, which might seem curious given that she lives in bustling Oak Park, Ill. She and her husband, John, travel 18 miles to a health food store in Chicago for vitamins, supplements and personal care products. They drive some distance for gasoline too.

The reason? They want to help solve what they call "the crisis in the black community." They want to buy black.

"Supporting your own isn't necessarily exclusive," said John Anderson, a financial advisor who grew up in Detroit and has a Harvard degree in economics and an MBA from Northwestern, "and you're not going to convince everybody of that."

"We, as African Americans, support everyone," he said. "The ebony experiment is saying, 'Listen, let's pay attention to us. Let's give some support.' Ebony experiment can bring awareness, and in that awareness comes better profits and better services and better opportunities. It just grows from there."

I think these people are complete morons.

It's always pointed out when "whites" are being racially discriminatory but it is more rampant in ethnic communities in my opinion.

So when will black people and other ethnic groups stop being so racially discriminating?
 
I have no objection to this, nor "buying white" or "buying yellow" or anything else like that. It's a free, capitalist country most of us here on these boards live in, and people can shop wherever they want.
 
It's always pointed out when "whites" are being racially discriminatory but it is more rampant in ethnic communities in my opinion.
So when will black people and other ethnic groups stop being so racially discriminating?


I think that's more or less because in ethnic neighborhoods, the ethnic store on the corner may have more of what the population of those neighborhoods is looking for. A hispanic is going to shop at a hispanic store over an asian store because they are looking for products that hispanic stores sell. Simple as that and nothing to do with being discriminating.
 
Why do ethnic foods always smell so bad?
 
I think that's more or less because in ethnic neighborhoods, the ethnic store on the corner may have more of what the population of those neighborhoods is looking for. A hispanic is going to shop at a hispanic store over an asian store because they are looking for products that hispanic stores sell. Simple as that and nothing to do with being discriminating.

I can understand that but what was the point of the era of desegregation to only have those people want to segregate themselves.

I always want to go into ethnic food stores, I love their products I've tried from my coworkers but I've always been a bit apprehensive because of their purposeful segregation.
 
Why do ethnic foods always smell so bad?
Because they stink? I don't have a problem with these people buying from local black businesses, but they sure are using a lot of gas to do it. :3oops: I guess this is okay with Obama, as long as they check their tire pressure. Heheh, j/k. :lol:
 
I can understand that but what was the point of the era of desegregation to only have those people want to segregate themselves.

I always want to go into ethnic food stores, I love their products I've tried from my coworkers but I've always been a bit apprehensive because of their purposeful segregation.

But IMO it's not segregation. It's just stores serving what the area wants. If you go into an ethnic store, nobody is going to throw you out because you're not the same nationality as the owners. Nobody wants to segragate themselves, they just want to buy the products they want and use.
 
But IMO it's not segregation. It's just stores serving what the area wants. If you go into an ethnic store, nobody is going to throw you out because you're not the same nationality as the owners. Nobody wants to segragate themselves, they just want to buy the products they want and use.

I'm all about free markets and honestly I don't care if people wish to buy things from other people that are the same color.

I had a bad experience with a restaurant, that unknown to me and my friends, only served black people.
They wouldn't serve us and the other patrons were not happy we were there.

Hispanic folks seem to not care as much, although they usually do have their own neighborhoods.
 
I think that's more or less because in ethnic neighborhoods, the ethnic store on the corner may have more of what the population of those neighborhoods is looking for. A hispanic is going to shop at a hispanic store over an asian store because they are looking for products that hispanic stores sell. Simple as that and nothing to do with being discriminating.

This might be true in many instances. For example my brother likes to shop in little Hispanic grocery stores because they sell things he can't get at Thriftway.

But in regards to the OP the folks are buying from blacks because they are black. Driving long distances not for a certain product but instead to ensure their money is handed off to another black person vs a whitey or someone else.

It's bigotry. If a white man told me he only wants to patronize white shops I'd think he was a major racist tard. When the black folks do it I think the same damn thing no matter how they attempt to pretty up their ultimate intent.
 
Okay, so they're saying "buy black" isn't racist.

Works for me.

Let's initiate a "buy white" plan and shop only at stores owned by white people that hire white people, and see how long it takes before the Poverty Pimps and Race Baiters are out there protesting this evil racist ploy of big corporate America that's intended to keep the peeeepul down.

Five seconds?

Anyone wanna bid two?

It's racist, fools. And they're not only racists for "buying black", they're stupid, because they're paying typically higher prices, not to mention the gas they're wasting, and I'm not mentioning the time they're wasting driving all over like that, too.

Then they're really stupid because they want to pretend they're discriminated against when the American mainstream moves beyond them. Well, people, the American mainstream stays out of ghettos, and what you're doing by being racist and exclusive is establishing a suburban ghetto defined not by geography but by economics.

And really, if y'all do that, how are us white folks going to be able to find you to learn ebonics, jive, or even that old fashioned slave twang y'all's got in your voices so we can still tell what color your skin is with our eyes closed over the telephone?

You people want to end racism in this country? First stop being racist. Second, learn how to speak english like real Americans. If you people want to be judged on who you are, what your skills are, and what's inside, you damn well need to stop pretending we give a crap about what's on your outside.

The truth of the matter is that we don't care was color you are, we don't care about who you really are on the inside, we just wish you'd stop whining about things we had nothing to do with, don't care about, and aren't important on any objective scale.

We just want to be able to hear the bees buzzin' in the flowers on a sunny spring day. Go protest where someone cares.
 
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But IMO it's not segregation. It's just stores serving what the area wants. If you go into an ethnic store, nobody is going to throw you out because you're not the same nationality as the owners. Nobody wants to segragate themselves, they just want to buy the products they want and use.

You have a very good point. I have learned a lot living here in downtown Los Angeles about that sort of thing. All these little ethnic markets are the best for buying the things you need to make certain dishes. If I need chiles, I go to the latin market, for lemongrass its the asian market, for kabob rubs its the middle eastern markets.

You can always tell what district I have been hanging out in by looking at what we are having for dinner that week. LOL
 
You have a very good point. I have learned a lot living here in downtown Los Angeles about that sort of thing. All these little ethnic markets are the best for buying the things you need to make certain dishes. If I need chiles, I go to the latin market, for lemongrass its the asian market, for kabob rubs its the middle eastern markets.

You can always tell what district I have been hanging out in by looking at what we are having for dinner that week. LOL

And....try to sell into that community as an outsider. Good luck. The korean community tends generally to "buy korean", which made for all sorts of fun and entertainment in the spring of 1992 here.
 
This might be true in many instances. For example my brother likes to shop in little Hispanic grocery stores because they sell things he can't get at Thriftway.

But in regards to the OP the folks are buying from blacks because they are black. Driving long distances not for a certain product but instead to ensure their money is handed off to another black person vs a whitey or someone else.

It's bigotry. If a white man told me he only wants to patronize white shops I'd think he was a major racist tard. When the black folks do it I think the same damn thing no matter how they attempt to pretty up their ultimate intent.

There is a difference though. If you look at the pro-white organizations they tend to be about hatred towards other races as much as they are about promoting whites. When I think pro-white the first organization that comes to mind is the KKK. When I think pro-black its the NAACP. The reality is that white pride is almost always accompanied by by racism whereas ethnic pride is generally positive. The reason, I would speculate, is that whites tend not to be proud of their race, but their nationality. Irish pride, German pride, American pride etc is much more common than white pride, and when somebody does express strong white pride it's usually to contrast themselves with minorities.
 
The reality is that white pride is almost always accompanied by by racism whereas ethnic pride is generally positive.

You should analyze this statement and see if you really believe it.

What makes you think "ethnic" pride is positive ? Ever heard the term White Devil ?

Also, do you wonder why you chose the NAACP instead of the Black Panthers ? The Panthers make a much better parallel to the Klan, and not surprisingly, the had plenty of racism to accompany their pride.
 
There is a difference though. If you look at the pro-white organizations they tend to be about hatred towards other races as much as they are about promoting whites. When I think pro-white the first organization that comes to mind is the KKK. When I think pro-black its the NAACP. The reality is that white pride is almost always accompanied by by racism whereas ethnic pride is generally positive. The reason, I would speculate, is that whites tend not to be proud of their race, but their nationality. Irish pride, German pride, American pride etc is much more common than white pride, and when somebody does express strong white pride it's usually to contrast themselves with minorities.

I've heard similar arguments before but usually they are worded as in whites who show bigotry can do damage while ethnics that show bigotry can't as they lack the power to harm whites.

At this point I think anyone doing anything in a way that over emphasis skin color is a bigot whether their intentions are good are not. It's like Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing movie. I never understood that movie. I understand looking after your own as long as your own is really your own and not just a skin color affiliation. Driving miles and miles to patronize a black shop solely because you prefer to do business with dark skinned peoples is bigotry. It's nothing to be proud of no matter how you attempt to justify your actions. If the folks in the OP said they go out of their way to try to uplift the black community by making sure to spend some money within it -fine. But to go so far as to say you will only do business with blacks....indefensible.
 
There is a difference though. If you look at the pro-white organizations they tend to be about hatred towards other races as much as they are about promoting whites. When I think pro-white the first organization that comes to mind is the KKK. When I think pro-black its the NAACP. The reality is that white pride is almost always accompanied by by racism whereas ethnic pride is generally positive. The reason, I would speculate, is that whites tend not to be proud of their race, but their nationality. Irish pride, German pride, American pride etc is much more common than white pride, and when somebody does express strong white pride it's usually to contrast themselves with minorities.

Even among whites there are ethnic differences.

Could you say that there are no different ethnic traits between Irish, Jewish, and Russian people?

There are differences but these people are classified as white.

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I've heard similar arguments before but usually they are worded as in whites who show bigotry can do damage while ethnics that show bigotry can't as they lack the power to harm whites.

At this point I think anyone doing anything in a way that over emphasis skin color is a bigot whether their intentions are good are not. It's like Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing movie. I never understood that movie. I understand looking after your own as long as your own is really your own and not just a skin color affiliation. Driving miles and miles to patronize a black shop solely because you prefer to do business with dark skinned peoples is bigotry. It's nothing to be proud of no matter how you attempt to justify your actions. If the folks in the OP said they go out of their way to try to uplift the black community by making sure to spend some money within it -fine. But to go so far as to say you will only do business with blacks....indefensible.

That is what I was eluding to.

How can one group be able to define what businesses that they patronize solely on skin color while another group cannot.
 
Wonder how much longer the overt racism of some blacks is going to be portrayed as acceptable and ok.

If this was a white person the story would be damning them to hell as racists.


The act is personal choice..the portrayal of it though is hypocrisy defined.
 
And....try to sell into that community as an outsider. Good luck. The korean community tends generally to "buy korean", which made for all sorts of fun and entertainment in the spring of 1992 here.

I dunno. I work down in K-town in the wilshire vermont area. I find the Koreans to be pretty open and hospitable.

Now the Japanese and the Chinese...they're the ones you have to watch. I have worries for them.
 
In some areas, whites can buy black. For instance, our company uses a black-owned company to wire our phones, computer connections, etc. We also use black-owned companies for some of our other on-site services. I am white, and everybody else in the company, except one, is Iranian-American.

So why do we buy black? Simple. With all the discrimination that still goes on, a successful black-owned company in some fields gets where it is because it really is better than just about everyone else. That has been borne out by our experience too.

To us, its not really about race. The black-owned companies we have hired outperformed every other company we ever used in those fields. We simply want the best.
 
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There is a difference though. If you look at the pro-white organizations they tend to be about hatred towards other races as much as they are about promoting whites. When I think pro-white the first organization that comes to mind is the KKK. When I think pro-black its the NAACP. The reality is that white pride is almost always accompanied by by racism whereas ethnic pride is generally positive. The reason, I would speculate, is that whites tend not to be proud of their race, but their nationality. Irish pride, German pride, American pride etc is much more common than white pride, and when somebody does express strong white pride it's usually to contrast themselves with minorities.

RIIIIGHT!

Black people are sooooo sweeeet sooooo puuuure they'd NEVER harbor any baaad feelings about white folks. Oh, no. Of course not. That video you saw from the white media was nothing but lies!


What the video really showed you was Damien "Football" Williams catching a METEOR that bounced off Reginald Denny's head. He was just a little to slow, and that's what ol' addled pated Reggie was apologizing for at poor Damien's trial, that his head hurt the meteor.

Black people just can't hate white people. They's too nice. Really.
 
You should analyze this statement and see if you really believe it.

What makes you think "ethnic" pride is positive ? Ever heard the term White Devil ?

Also, do you wonder why you chose the NAACP instead of the Black Panthers ? The Panthers make a much better parallel to the Klan, and not surprisingly, the had plenty of racism to accompany their pride.

The NAALCP aired race-baiting ads in the 2000 election falsely connecting George Bush to that truck dragging incident in Texas.

The difference between the Panthers and the NAALCP is that the Panthers have the decency to be honest about their hatred.
 
RIIIIGHT!

Black people are sooooo sweeeet sooooo puuuure they'd NEVER harbor any baaad feelings about white folks. Oh, no. Of course not. That video you saw from the white media was nothing but lies!


What the video really showed you was Damien "Football" Williams catching a METEOR that bounced off Reginald Denny's head. He was just a little to slow, and that's what ol' addled pated Reggie was apologizing for at poor Damien's trial, that his head hurt the meteor.

Black people just can't hate white people. They's too nice. Really.

You know, he could have lynched him, like white people way down south used to do to blacks all the time, if they wanted to vote.
 
RIIIIGHT!

Black people are sooooo sweeeet sooooo puuuure they'd NEVER harbor any baaad feelings about white folks. Oh, no. Of course not. That video you saw from the white media was nothing but lies!


What the video really showed you was Damien "Football" Williams catching a METEOR that bounced off Reginald Denny's head. He was just a little to slow, and that's what ol' addled pated Reggie was apologizing for at poor Damien's trial, that his head hurt the meteor.

Black people just can't hate white people. They's too nice. Really.

What I can't stand is that black people who walk around acting like ****ing retards, being rude to white people, asian people, latin people, etc are more tolerated. Like on the train, for instance, when some little thug gets on the train being loud and rude, everyone just looks at each other and raises an eyebrow like "he's black, what did you expect?" But if an asian or a white person or other acts that way, people are quick to make their observations about said behavior rather openly.

The only way it will stop is if blacks are treated like everyone else and the whole race crap is tossed aside like yesterday's paper...because really, it is yesterday's news.
 
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