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EgoffTib said:
Marxism is "evil" simply because he does not like it. Pretty juvenile.
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Good try. I'll give you a gold star for trying.
My reasoning is a far sight deeper than dislike.

I was a good socialist at one time.
Big heart, university educated... brain washed fool.
Young, dumb and full of ***.
I know the type.
I was a lot like Obama.
Difference is... I grew up and worked in the real world.
He... didn't.

Have you lived in a former Commi country?

I have. More than one and am familiar with many.
The damage isn't just to the country wide infrastructure.
That you can fix.

The real shame and perversion is what Solzhenitsyn noted about it.
The destruction of the soul.
The human spirit.
Of morals.
The debasement of society.
Culture.
Hope.
Its turning people away from civility and towards barbarism.

Have you lived in the EU?
Though the infrastructure is OK, the people are slaves to the state.
Upward mobility is stunted.
It is a culture of jealousy.
It's sick.

Look at the attempted EU Constitution.
It was all about state power... **** the individual.

Marxism/Socialism are destructive on all levels.
That is why they are "evil".
And create "Evil Empires"... perverted societies.
 
WillRockwell said:
So really, your entire position is to utter the word "socialist" with as much innuendo as possible. I guess that innoculates you from the responsibility of actually having to consider the benefits of national healthcare, or a national bank. Which, by the way, was advocated by Alexander Hamilton, another pinko socialist.
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It was? i know this is futile, but do you have a link? :lamo
 
obvious Child said:
lol. At this point, the only person worth discussing Socialism with is Rathi who understands it. Everyone else doesn't know squat.



Do you know who Marx is? Perhaps you should read his work before posting again.
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This is funny, not only did I post the definition, but applied its core principles to several of Obama's plans......

Care to address that?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
It was? i know this is futile, but do you have a link? :lamo
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Really, you should learn a little history if you insist on shooting off your mouth. In his own words, Hamilton advocates for a national bank....from the pinko's mouth:

The Secretary respectfully reports:
... That a National Bank is an Institution of primary importance to the prosperous administration of the Finances, and would be of the greatest utility in the operations connected with the support of the Public Credit....
it is one of the properties of Banks to increase the active capital of a country...... And thus by contributing to enlarge the mass of industrious and commercial enterprise, banks become nurseries of national wealth....

Alexander Hamilton: Report on a National Bank
 
WillRockwell said:
Really, you should learn a little history if you insist on shooting off your mouth. In his own words, Hamilton advocates for a national bank....from the pinko's mouth:

The Secretary respectfully reports:
... That a National Bank is an Institution of primary importance to the prosperous administration of the Finances, and would be of the greatest utility in the operations connected with the support of the Public Credit....
it is one of the properties of Banks to increase the active capital of a country...... And thus by contributing to enlarge the mass of industrious and commercial enterprise, banks become nurseries of national wealth....

Alexander Hamilton: Report on a National Bank
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You said healthcare. where is healthcare? FAIL



as for the national bank, i will defer to the prevailing opinion of Thomas Jefferson:


Constitutionality of the National Bank: Thomas Jefferson


The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill, have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution.

I. They are not among the powers specially enumerated...

II. Nor are they within either of the general phrases, which are the two following:-

1. "To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States." ... The [Congress] are not to do anything they please, to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose... It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers, and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect...

2. The second general phase is, "to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution the enumerated powers." But they can all be carried into execution without a bank. A bank, therefore, is not necessary, and consequently not authorized by this phrase.



It has been much urged that a bank will give great facility or convenience in the collection of taxes. Suppose this were true; yet the Constitution allows only the means which are "necessary" not those which are merely "convenient," for effecting the enumerated power.
 
WillRockwell said:
So really, your entire position is to utter the word "socialist" with as much innuendo as possible. I guess that innoculates you from the responsibility of actually having to consider the benefits of national healthcare, or a national bank. Which, by the way, was advocated by Alexander Hamilton, another pinko socialist.
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Does "Liberty" mean anything to you?
Does it mean you "liberate" yourself by having government steal and redistribute wealth in your favor?

What about Doctors?
Their Liberty?
They are just wards of the state?
There to fulfill the grand socialist scheme?

There are no "benefits" to nationalized healthcare.
The systems are corrupted and inefficient.
Everyone loses.
Look at Kanuckistan.

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From Focus Magazine, Germany.
Title: Just like in the DDR.
The article goes on to reveal Germany's system is more and more dysfunctional, and drifts more and more to the Commi East German system.

Sounds like Obama... make things worse by involving government into our lives.

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Also from Focus.
Title: Which Patient Goes Empty Handed
The article tells readers the government system is designed to ration care.
It has to.
Some folks will go empty handed (die and suffer) as a result.

YouTube - Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine
 
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
as for the national bank, i will defer to the prevailing opinion of Thomas Jefferson:


Constitutionality of the National Bank: Thomas Jefferson


The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill, have not, in my opinion, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution.

I. They are not among the powers specially enumerated...

II. Nor are they within either of the general phrases, which are the two following:-

1. "To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States." ... The [Congress] are not to do anything they please, to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose... It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers, and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect...

2. The second general phase is, "to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution the enumerated powers." But they can all be carried into execution without a bank. A bank, therefore, is not necessary, and consequently not authorized by this phrase.



It has been much urged that a bank will give great facility or convenience in the collection of taxes. Suppose this were true; yet the Constitution allows only the means which are "necessary" not those which are merely "convenient," for effecting the enumerated power.
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How does Jefferson claiming the bank is unconstitutional have anything to do with whether or not Hamilton supported it?
 
zimmer said:
Good try. I'll give you a gold star for trying.
My reasoning is a far sight deeper than dislike.

I was a good socialist at one time.
Big heart, university educated... brain washed fool.
Young, dumb and full of ***.
I know the type.
I was a lot like Obama.
Difference is... I grew up and worked in the real world.
He... didn't.

Have you lived in a former Commi country?

I have. More than one and am familiar with many.
The damage isn't just to the country wide infrastructure.
That you can fix.

The real shame and perversion is what Solzhenitsyn noted about it.
The destruction of the soul.
The human spirit.
Of morals.
The debasement of society.
Culture.
Hope.
Its turning people away from civility and towards barbarism.

Have you lived in the EU?
Though the infrastructure is OK, the people are slaves to the state.
Upward mobility is stunted.
It is a culture of jealousy.
It's sick.

Look at the attempted EU Constitution.
It was all about state power... **** the individual.

Marxism/Socialism are destructive on all levels.
That is why they are "evil".
And create "Evil Empires"... perverted societies.
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Why do you type like this?
Why can't you organize your sentences into paragraphs?
Is this the result of a disorganized and psychotic mind?

Please tell us.
What is your problem?

Leave Obama alone. Your hate mongering isn't helping anybody.
If you see a problem get out there and fix it.

Instead of sitting here ranting...
Why not get involved in your community?
 
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Frank Talk said:
How does Jefferson claiming the bank is unconstitutional have anything to do with whether or not Hamilton supported it?
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it doesn't. it does show however, which of the two arguments won.


Game, Set, Match. :2wave:
 
BulletWounD said:
Why do you type like this?
Why can't you organize your sentences into paragraphs?
Is this the result of a disorganized and psychotic mind?
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LOL.
Yes, disliking Marxism and its march over The Constitution is something Marxists believe is psychotic.
In other places they have gulags for people like me.
In America we have the press doing the job if you get too big for your britches. Ask Joe the Plumber. Geraldine Ferraro. Rush Limbaugh.

Leave Obama alone.
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ROTFLMFAO.
I will... when he leaves me alone and starts treating us as adults who don't need or want his Mommy Dearest, It Takes a Village Idiot, Marxist plans for us.

Your hate mongering isn't helping anybody.
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You need "helping"? LOL...
Penicillin might work.
If not, wait... Obama's government sanctioned HC system is on the way.

If you see a problem get out there and fix it.
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Educating the ignorant masses is the only way this will get "fixed".
Until then we'll have to swallow what the Cult of Obama and his Marxists shove down our throats.
I hope they get to shove you so full of it you'll have no place left for shoving.

May you receive the AIG Treatment.
Without protection.

Instead of sitting here ranting...
Why not get involved in your community?
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How do you know I'm not and haven't?
And hey... it's MY life.
If you want to control other people's lives... now is your big chance...
Join the Obamatrons in DC.

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