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Being fat 'is as bad as smoking'

If its hereditary, I don't blame anyone.

However, I think being fat, when you can prevent it, is just as bad as smoking. In fact, being obese could run a higher chance of death than smoking, but of course that also depends on how much one smokes.

Yeah I said it, if you can prevent yourself from being fat, and you become fat, then that sucks for you. This is why I hate it when obese/fat people (who can prevent their condition) say things like "you can't make fun of me for being fat" or "you can't blame me for being fat, this and that, blah blah blah."

We can accuse people of wrongs when they smoke but not when they are overweight (preventable). That makes no sense. Why is it like this?
 
So a few years of getting it into peoples psyche's that being fat is as bad as smoking.

Then making sure they think that fat people are as disgusting as smokers and are as bad and should be shunned and punished for their "habit".

Then you can easily start raising taxes on fatty foods, or banning them from areas, or denying benefits, or all the other wonderful fun things to let government slide more and more into our lives to make sure that everyone is walking the ol' company line...
 
So a few years of getting it into peoples psyche's that being fat is as bad as smoking.

Then making sure they think that fat people are as disgusting as smokers and are as bad and should be shunned and punished for their "habit".

Then you can easily start raising taxes on fatty foods, or banning them from areas, or denying benefits, or all the other wonderful fun things to let government slide more and more into our lives to make sure that everyone is walking the ol' company line...

But smoking is not hereditary. The only thing that people can do is promote "health-watching." Smoking is ALWAYS a habit, but being obese is NOT always a habit. This is why putting bans on fatty foods and such makes no sense.
 
Oddly enough, "hereditary obesity" never reared its ugly head until the few decades when people in the developed world starting sitting on their ass and eating all the time.

If you eat 4000 calories a day of crap and you don't exercise, then your almost invariably going to end up obese.
 
Oddly enough, "hereditary obesity" never reared its ugly head until the few decades when people in the developed world starting sitting on their ass and eating all the time.

If you eat 4000 calories a day of crap and you don't exercise, then your almost invariably going to end up obese.

Yeah unfortunately, I think, decades of preventable obesity led to hereditary obesity.

Just going by what my mom (who is a dietitian) learned.
 
Cilogy said:
But smoking is not hereditary

That is not entirely true.

http://www.apa.org/releases/smoke99.html said:
Certain Gene Found to Influence Why People Start Smoking and Why Some Get Addicted and Others Don't

You also have to look that both are in fact decisions people make. When people blame their obesity on their genetic make up then it is evident that they have failed.
I have a genetic predisposition to obesity. At one point I was 230 lbs and like 17 years old. Now I am 19 yo, 170 pounds and about 6 foot even.
 
Yeah unfortunately, I think, decades of preventable obesity led to hereditary obesity.

Just going by what my mom (who is a dietitian) learned.

We don't evolve that quickly. In fact, our cravings are still largely based on being hunter gatherers (we crave sweets and salt for example because up until 10,000 years ago or so, as hunter gatherers they were in very short supply).

Now, what you can inherit more or less are bad habits. If you grow up in a home where they eat a bunch of junk and don't exercise, then thats what you know when your grown, but its not genetic, its learned.
 
I always thought it was worse. Heart disease has been the #1 killer for some time now.
 
let's round up all the fatties and throw them into fat camp!
 
let's round up all the fatties and throw them into fat camp!

That's not necessary. But I will sit around and judge them. When you think about it obesity is one of the few things you can make fun of anymore.
 
That is not entirely true.

This the most hilarious quote I've heard in a while. How can smoking be hereditary?

Good luck proving that one.
 
That's not necessary. But I will sit around and judge them. When you think about it obesity is one of the few things you can make fun of anymore.

There's nothing saying we can't do both! Round up all the fatties, throw them into fat camps. And then sell seats so the rest of us can mock and ridicule them as they are forced to perform labor for our amusement.
 
This the most hilarious quote I've heard in a while. How can smoking be hereditary?

Good luck proving that one.

Alcoholism is partly hereditary, why not smoking as well?
 
Alcoholism is partly hereditary, why not smoking as well?

Are you telling me that people are born with the tendency to smoke?

Good joke.

The need for/addiction to nicotine might be hereditary (maybe I'm just guessing, but) smoking?
 
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maybe fatness is partly hereditary, but when you're really huge you should make efforts to try and stop eating all day long

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Are you telling me that people are born with the tendency to smoke?

Good joke.

The need for/addiction to nicotine might be hereditary (maybe I'm just guessing, but) smoking?

Smoking fulfills a nicotine addiction, does it not? Also well more accepted then chewing even still. It's not too much of a stretch for some of this to be hereditary if things such as alcoholism are hereditary.
 
Smoking fulfills a nicotine addiction, does it not? Also well more accepted then chewing even still. It's not too much of a stretch for some of this to be hereditary if things such as alcoholism are hereditary.

Even if that's the case, they are still preventable, and are both equally risky and dangerous.
 
We don't evolve that quickly. In fact, our cravings are still largely based on being hunter gatherers (we crave sweets and salt for example because up until 10,000 years ago or so, as hunter gatherers they were in very short supply).

Now, what you can inherit more or less are bad habits. If you grow up in a home where they eat a bunch of junk and don't exercise, then thats what you know when your grown, but its not genetic, its learned.

Exactly. To the extant it is "hereditary" it is because children learn from what their parents do. If their parents smoke and/or are overweight, as children learn from the examples of their parents, they are more likely to have the same problems. Just as my children like to run and exercise more than their classmates - because they see their daddy run and participate in races in a regular basis. They don't just want to walk through the fun runs, they race through them. Children learn from the ACTIONS more than the TALK of their parents. This typically carries through to adulthood.
 
That's not necessary. But I will sit around and judge them. When you think about it obesity is one of the few things you can make fun of anymore.

But Heaven forbid one of those fatties sit in an airline seat next to mine and literally ooze over into my seat. It has never happened to me (not common on Asian airlines), but if it ever does.......
 

...happy fun camps tend not to be the best of things. There are fat camps here now, parents can enroll their children in them. There's a lot of difference between voluntary and forced.
 
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