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Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

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Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
The Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration.
By JASON RYAN
WASHINGTON, Feb. 25, 2009

SHARE The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

Wednesday Attorney General Eric Holder said that the Obama administration will seek to reinstitute the assault weapons ban which expired in 2004 during the Bush administration.

As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

ABC News: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

So... does anyone STILL think gun owners are paranoid?
 
ABC News: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

So... does anyone STILL think gun owners are paranoid?

"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.


I'm glad that they're using Mexico as a reason to trample the citizens rights.

It will be interesting to see what if anything happens in all the states threatening the use of the 10th amendment and secession if the gov tries to do another AWB.

And what's even more funny... the weapons being used in mexico... Select fire / Full Auto weapons... are damn near impossible to get here for a law abiding citizen.... Considering the National Firearms Act is still very much in enforcement.... and your average citizen can't just goto walmart and buy a full auto ak47. I also didn't know that your us citizen could go to the local gun store and buy grenades / a grenade launcher... I wish I could go buy such stuff with ease... like the media would like everyone to think of. :(
 
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Seems to me that responsible gun owners, hunters, and law enforcement personnel would be first in line to advocate the control of assault weapons. These weapons have no practical use beyond murder. Firearms enthusiasts should take the lead in limiting access to dangerous weapons because they understand the responsibility and dangers of gun ownership.

There was an article in the New Yorker about the inventer of the AA12 automatic shotgun. Take a look at the video of this streetsweeper, and then explain to me why the NRA would approve its sale?
YouTube - AA12 Automatic Shotgun
 
Seems to me that responsible gun owners, hunters, and law enforcement personnel would be first in line to advocate the control of assault weapons.
That's because you don't know what you;re talking about.
See: below

These weapons have no practical use beyond murder
This is a statement based in utter and willful ignorance.
 
That's because you don't know what you;re talking about.
See: below


This is a statement based in utter and willful ignorance.

So what are the other uses for an AA12 ?
 
So what are the other uses for an AA12 ?

Please tell me where I can buy one?

Also, please tell me about the process of purchasing one... and how much it will cost... (think in numbers greater than $20k USD). Not to mention the time involved in getting a class 3 license.

And let me guess, your next move will be... "Well, we should just let everyone buy tanks or nuclear bombs!!!"
 
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If somebody broke into my house armed with a 9mm, I sure would like that AA12 in my hands.
 
So what are the other uses for an AA12 ?
Aside from the fact that the AA12 isn't the only 'assault weapon'...

...and that The Obama himself told us we didnt need to worry and there was no reason to run out and buy 'assault weapons'...

The AA12 can be used for any purpose that any other gun can be used. You might not be able to -legally- hunt with it because of the magazine, but it CAN be used for hunting, should you choose to do so.
 
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Aside from the fact that the AA12 isn't the only 'assault weapon'...

...and that The Obama himself told us we didnt need to worry and to not run out and buy 'assault weapons'...

The AA12 can be used for any purpose that any other gun can be used. You might not be able to -legally- hunt with it because of the magazine, but it CAN be used for hunting, should you choose to do so.

Awesome! Nothing cooler than turning a squirrel into swiss cheese! :2razz:
 
Aside from the fact that the AA12 isn't the only 'assault weapon'...

...and that The Obama himself told us we didnt need to worry and to not run out and buy 'assault weapons'...

The AA12 can be used for any purpose that any other gun can be used. You might not be able to -legally- hunt with it because of the magazine, but it CAN be used for hunting, should you choose to do so.

Maybe we should ask why he needs the first amendment.

It's not up to us as citizens of this country to justify our rights guaranteed to us by the constitution. Justification will only lead to loss of.
 
If somebody broke into my house armed with a 9mm, I sure would like that AA12 in my hands.

Yeah it would probably come in handy in the situation. For home use I'd rather have a sawed off one though.
 
Seems to me that responsible gun owners, hunters, and law enforcement personnel would be first in line to advocate the control of assault weapons. These weapons have no practical use beyond murder. Firearms enthusiasts should take the lead in limiting access to dangerous weapons because they understand the responsibility and dangers of gun ownership.

There was an article in the New Yorker about the inventer of the AA12 automatic shotgun. Take a look at the video of this streetsweeper, and then explain to me why the NRA would approve its sale?
YouTube - AA12 Automatic Shotgun

That makes some sense to a degree. I am an avid gun owner and hunter and all-around outdoor sportsman. I don't need an assault rifle to hunt, thats for sure. In fact, that would be somewhat unsportsmanlike by my standards..

But what I DO need is one of those good ol' street-sweeper's, for when that maniac with the assault rifle, points it at me.

Get it? Can't get toothpaste back into the tube.

The question is and shall always remain, where do we draw the line? Give an inch, they will take a mile. Smarter people than me will have to figure this one out.
 
Awesome! Nothing cooler than turning a squirrel into swiss cheese! :2razz:

Meh, I own lots of guns and I don't shoot animals or people.

I do punch holes in a lot of paper.. and still maintain that the handgun that I carry has killed a whole lot less people than Ted Kennedy's car.
 
Awesome! Nothing cooler than turning a squirrel into swiss cheese! :2razz:
Typical of the response from someone that doesnt know much about guns or hunting.

Ponder, for just a moment:
The AA12 (and every other 'assault weapon' can fire on round at a time, meaning that the effect on the target is no different than the same round fired from any other shotgun.

Never mind, of course, that the AA12, by virtue of being full-auto, isnt an 'assault weapon' and therefore not affected by an 'assault weapon' ban
 
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That makes some sense to a degree. I am an avid gun owner and hunter and all-around outdoor sportsman. I don't need an assault rifle to hunt, thats for sure. In fact, that would be somewhat unsportsmanlike by my standards..

But what I DO need is one of those good ol' street-sweeper's, for when that maniac with the assault rifle, points it at me.

Get it? Can't get toothpaste back into the tube.

The question is and shall always remain, where do we draw the line? Give an inch, they will take a mile. Smarter people than me will have to figure this one out.

It would be neat if the term assault rifle actually applied to the actual weaponry that it was coined for.

ie: select fire weapons capable of assaulting a position.
 
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Re: Gun Control and the 2nd Amendment

My first thought is that "here we go again" with this idiocy from the anti-freedom side. My second thought is that Holder and those of like mind should be dealt with immediately, the least that should happen is immediate expatriation for violating the constitution and for the worst offenders......public execution.
 
Seems to me that responsible gun owners, hunters, and law enforcement personnel would be first in line to advocate the control of assault weapons. These weapons have no practical use beyond murder. Firearms enthusiasts should take the lead in limiting access to dangerous weapons because they understand the responsibility and dangers of gun ownership.


Moronic prohibitionist anti-constitutional ranting...


There was an article in the New Yorker about the inventer of the AA12 automatic shotgun. Take a look at the video of this streetsweeper, and then explain to me why the NRA would approve its sale?
YouTube - AA12 Automatic Shotgun



This is a fully automatic weapon, and has been banned from civillian use since the 80's...


Ignorance is your forte here no?



Fact is, Obama is a dirtbag on this one, no quarter to him regarding the trampling on civil rights.


As a constitutional scholar he should remember that gun control laws were origionally designed to keep blacks from owning weapons.


Shame on him.


F holder that racist pig.
 
Moronic prohibitionist anti-constitutional ranting...






This is a fully automatic weapon, and has been banned from civillian use since the 80's...


Ignorance is your forte here no?



Fact is, Obama is a dirtbag on this one, no quarter to him regarding the trampling on civil rights.


As a constitutional scholar he should remember that gun control laws were origionally designed to keep blacks from owning weapons.


Shame on him.


F holder that racist pig.

Blaming the weapon is so much easier than putting responsibility on some people's shoulders.

GOD, what were you thinking?
 
Re: Gun Control and the 2nd Amendment

"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S."



F mexico, F holder, F obama on this anti constitutional BS.....

On the positive, this will be a re-election killer.
 
What's unsporting about taking deer with an M1 or M1A?

Hey, if it's legal, I don't care if you use a rocket launcher. I'm just saying by MY standards.

I prefer using my compound bow. But that's just me. ;)

My .3006 is awesome in the woods too. But once you pull the string back on a 10 pointer at 30 yards and drop it to the ground, it adds a whole new perspective on one's sense of sportsmanship.

That's all'z I'm sayin'.
 
Seems to me that responsible gun owners, hunters, and law enforcement personnel would be first in line to advocate the control of assault weapons. These weapons have no practical use beyond murder. Firearms enthusiasts should take the lead in limiting access to dangerous weapons because they understand the responsibility and dangers of gun ownership.

There was an article in the New Yorker about the inventer of the AA12 automatic shotgun. Take a look at the video of this streetsweeper, and then explain to me why the NRA would approve its sale?
YouTube - AA12 Automatic Shotgun

This kind of thing is why I quit the NRA. They are no longer responsible gun owners, but low brows who get off on firepower alone. Most of them no longer hunt game animals. They just go out to the range or the woods and make noise and pretend to be Rambo. Maybe it has a viagra effect....certainly it is a waste of money to shoot off hundreds of rounds at targets, trees, rocks, bottles, etc.
I may be wrong, but I feel perfectly safe with a .22 pistol....don't need a street sweeper or an AK47....
 
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