DeeJayH
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now who is getting all silly with assumptions :lol:Thanks for understanding.
now who is getting all silly with assumptions :lol:Thanks for understanding.
Actually, his original assertion isn't off base.
Does that mean they're stupid? No. Does that mean the education is bad? No. Does it mean that there are not some special ones that may be very gifted in a subject? Not at all. Does it mean everything they say is wrong? No.
But its not an absurd notion to think that someone with decades of experience and education in a particular expertise is likely far more informed and learned about that area of expertise than a high school kid.
But naturally what it comes down to is that those in power now have an economic plan and view differing from yours so they = idiots. Well, GREAT logic there. The type of wonderful logic that I'd expect out of most illogical hyperpartisans.
Hautey's comment is okay; I may disagree with it to some extent but its not a hypocritical statement.
You however complaining about Hautey based on an assumption that he's acting hypocritical, when if you apply the SAME KIND of assumption to you in this situation would also reveal hypocrisy, is just kind of humorous.
The only proof i have is anecdotal based off your long term posting here and your general statements. Which is EXACTLY the same amount of evidence you have for your claim against Hautey.
That's exactly the point I was making. You avoided the premise of his statement, made up your own assumptions to defend to give a basis for your stupid attack against someone you disliked. And you did this, ignoring the fact that if the same standard was applied to you it would show you to be as hypocritical as you were presenting him to be in your example.
(oh, and just a bit of help incase you're having trouble reading the thing next to my name. I'm not a moderate, and don't claim to be one.)
now who is getting all silly with assumptions :lol:
Bull****.I didn't attack you. I know this may confuse you, but just bolding certain parts of my post doesn't mean the rest of it doesn't actually exist.
My statement was clear. I asked for you to either show PROOF that its only NOW that they criticize Obama that Hautey finds them ignorant but he DIDN'T find them ignorant when they did it to Bush....OR....admit that you're basing it off of nothing but an ASSUMPTION, which, if that is the case, then you shouldn't have an issue with someone also making the ASSUMPTION that you would complain about and insult these kids if the situation was reversed as well.
If you have proof that Hautey has in the past said that kids weren't ignorant when they questioned Bush's economic policy, then all is fine. Please present it. A link? A quote? Something?
If not, you admit to just doing it off nothing but an assumption...which is fine, you're free to make assumptions. Everyone is. I just find it rather hypocritical of you to make such an assumption when the exact opposite of said assumption could apply to you. EVERYTHING you could point at to make the assumption that Hautey would've agreed with these kids if it was Bush would have some kind of equal by yourself that could point at you criticizing them for doing it.
This has nothing to do with me "covering" for Hautey or "Carrying his water". I actually agree with your assumption, I don't think Hautey would've came out criticizing the kids if it was Bush but more likely would've said how even inexperienced high school kids can see through Bush's BS. I'm not arguing about your assumption.
I'm saying people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. Criticizing another poster based on nothing but an assumption of how they WOULD'VE acted, when its a very good assumption YOU would've acted akin to how they are now if the situation was reversed, is a ****ty argument.
Can I be hypocritical at times? Yes, definitely. Everyone is. No human is not hypocritical. That doesn't mean its okay, it doesn't mean it can't be pointed out in debate, it doesn't mean it can't be highlighted when others do it. And I, unlike you, actually attempt to be intellectually honest on my comments and points about people and topics when I debate to try and AVOID being hypocritical.
I know this may be realllllllly difficult for you to understand, so please track with me. People who disagree with part of your premise, doesn't mean they support the other person. People who think you're making a ****ty debate point doesn't mean they agree with the other persons debate point. People pointing out that your complaining about something based on assumption when the same could be applied to you is hypocritical and worthless does not necessarily mean they disagree with that assumption. And people who are not hyperpartisan, talking point spewing, rabid conservatives that (god forbid it) the almighty Truth Detector doesn't consider to be a "real conservative" doesn't make them "Moderate".
Now, do you see my point? Instead of addressing Hautey's point, you decided to verge into a a baseless hypocritical assumption that doesn't in any way negate or deflect his point and you have no basis, at all, to get on a soap box against him for it.
But surprise surprise, this one's partially my fault. I Fell for your ****ty ass bait when you decided to verge away from the conversation to instead just make a sarcastic little jape against Hautey to try to distract things from the actual topic. My fault, please, go back to your mindless prattling on, please.
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Dobson students question Obama's plan | Mesa Arizona News - Mesa News - Mesa AZ news | eastvalleytribune.com
DRUDGE REPORT: STUDENTS QUESTION OBAMA'S PLAN 2009®
Whoops!
I think he expected a bunch of soft targets.
Too bad they didn't get to ask questions.
They surely would have been harder hitting than The Lapdog Patrol that slobberingly follows Obama from town to town.
Hey... where do I insult Obama here?Can you ever not agree with Obama without insulting him, i mean really. grow up people.
I didn't attack you. I know this may confuse you, but just bolding certain parts of my post doesn't mean the rest of it doesn't actually exist.
This has nothing to do with me "covering" for Hautey or "Carrying his water". I actually agree with your assumption, I don't think Hautey would've came out criticizing the kids if it was Bush but more likely would've said how even inexperienced high school kids can see through Bush's BS. I'm not arguing about your assumption.
If you have proof that Hautey has in the past said that kids weren't ignorant when they questioned Bush's economic policy, then all is fine. Please present it. A link? A quote? Something?
If not, you admit to just doing it off nothing but an assumption...which is fine, you're free to make assumptions. Everyone is. I just find it rather hypocritical of you to make such an assumption when the exact opposite of said assumption could apply to you.
HillaryI am sick and tired of people who call you unpatriotic if you debate this administration’s policies.
We are Americans and have the right to participate and debate any administration.
Good lord, you have to stand on your head with a finger up your butt to make sense out of this essay.