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How many infraction points am I sitting on right now? Damnit...well the proper response for this post will get me suspended so I'll water it down this time.
Further, nobody ever said that this was a sacrifice to any God. Holocaust was an appropriate application of the word in describing what happened to the Jews during the Nazi attempt at wiping out the European Jews. They were murdered by the millions and a symbol of that process were the ovens in which the bodies were disposed of. Hitlers campaign of murder against the Jews was definitely one of genocidal proportions...the intent was there. The ovens came to symbolize the destruction of the Jews under his reign.
Put twenty people in a room, with leaky windows and doors, and begin pumping in carbon monoxide (from a gasoline burning engine exhaust) or cyanide and see what happens. They panic, they breath deeply from screaming, and speed the effects. It's quite efficient.
You are calling these people liars. People who were there and participated to one degree or another and survived to give their accounting.
You'll not get away with this on this board. Go to Stormfront if this is what you want to engage in. I find your antics here disgusting.
Stop right there. There are no "facts" that definitively state the gas chambers never existed. You need to stop wielding this bald faced lie right now.
How you could assume that Tashah of all people doesn't know the root origins of the word "holocaust" boggles the mind. How long have you been a member here? This tact is weak at best and indicates that you are stooping to a level of debate that is severely lacking in merit. This isn't even substantial enough to be considered a red herring. It's a simple diversion wrapped up in an insult.
Patently false. That is a common myth propagated by the likes of Mattagno, Leuchter, and Faurisson. It's been debunked not only by eyewitness testimony but by the release of the Death Books. The Typhus Myth is just that, a myth. It's apparent that you put no credibility in eye witness accounts when their stories are backed up by evidence. How about the German soldiers who testified to the existence of gas chambers and systematic execution of innocent? What about the reports of the Polish underground during the war that detailed mass extermination of prisoners? What about the findings of the Institute for Forensic Research which clearly establish evidence of gas chamber use? How about the numerous survivors who testified about falsifying death certificates to read "heart attack, heart failure, influenza, diarrhea?'
Further, nobody ever said that this was a sacrifice to any God. Holocaust was an appropriate application of the word in describing what happened to the Jews during the Nazi attempt at wiping out the European Jews. They were murdered by the millions and a symbol of that process were the ovens in which the bodies were disposed of. Hitlers campaign of murder against the Jews was definitely one of genocidal proportions...the intent was there. The ovens came to symbolize the destruction of the Jews under his reign.
Why does this not surprise me?
Thanks for the lesson, but where in this discussion did anyone display a lack of understanding of that word.
Are you serious? You are a denier, without a doubt. Research the "Final Solution" why don't you. Debunk the evidence surrounding that and get back with us.
Google Einsatzgruppen. :roll:
For the same reason they faked the death certificates of tens of thousands of registered prisoners and failed to register millions of others. Even the Nazi's knew they couldn't just flaunt genocide to the world. Hitler's plan was to restore Germany to a place of world prominence, to avenge her fall from grace after World War 1. Unlike Stalin, who killed with wanton abandon out of paranoia, Hitler actually thought he could reach a plateau of sort in which he was viewed as some kind of respectable supreme ruler. It was his deep rooted hatred of the Jews, his failed understanding of tactics, and his misguided strategic vision that ruined him. At some point the German leadership knew they would have to answer as to where those prisoners went. The problem was there were too many of them and they were forced to begin killing them and disposing of their bodies as quickly as they could. Who knows why they chose gas chambers over bullets? We know that cremation was quickly realized as a better solution than mass graves because the thousands of corpses were tainting water supplies and causing serious health issues for the soldiers and those in surrounding areas. Further cremation destroyed evidence that would indicate a mechanism of death. This goes hand in hand with falsifying death records.
They wanted to exterminate the European Jews more than anyone else. Here you are adding a pound of sand to the argument in order to circle around some semblance of a point. And your logic of "that's not how I would have done it" has no merit in this argument.
Irrelevant given the fact that millions were systematically murdered...taken to camps, not registered, and then disappeared never to be heard from again. Where did they go? Since we don't have any brand new massive communities of Jews popping up in Africa or Asia, and we do have death camps with execution blocks, gas chambers, and large multi-baffled furnaces with ovens that were very efficient in destroying human remains to the tune of hundreds if not thousands a day all across Europe...well I think you see where this is going.
This is a complete fraud. You are taking a situation that already has an established and proven explanation and trying to come up with an alternative explanation based upon logic alone, sans actual supporting evidence. Yes some died of disease, some died of starvation, but many many more were executed. Yet evidence (both scientific and eyewitness testimony) clearly debunks this.
Many prisoners were killed immediately upon their arrival at places like Auschwitz. Try again and this time leave out the irrelevant red herrings and focus on what the Nazi's actually did (that thing you are trying your level best to deny).
This is absurd. You have absolutely now historical reference to base this on and are only making it up in order to lend substance to your story.
So the revisionist accuses everyone else of revisionism. Nice. That's it? Basically you're argument is "we aren't lying, the eye witnesses are lying, the death books are fabrications, the evidence is tainted, the evidence is manufactured to further the lie of the Holocaust." Well then I'll debunk your denial of the Holocaust with this...You Are A LIAR! I win.
And you have never heard of a word with one or more similar or dissimilar meanings have you? Your stupid line of attack here won't work Denier.
Oh this is just precious. Gaps in doors and windows you say? How about the hundreds of people each year who die in old drafty homes from carbon monoxide poisoning? You are building a defense around the myth that you need sealed tight enclosures to facilitate killing people with poisonous gas. That is a lie, all you need is a tent, time, and no way for them to get out of the tent. Many people have died while camping by falling asleep in a tent with generator exhaust seeping in while they were asleep.
Put twenty people in a room, with leaky windows and doors, and begin pumping in carbon monoxide (from a gasoline burning engine exhaust) or cyanide and see what happens. They panic, they breath deeply from screaming, and speed the effects. It's quite efficient.
Sorry but the burden of proof is on you to debunk the multitude of eyewitness accounts from survivors, soldiers serving in the camps, and the mountains of evidence supporting the claim.
You are calling these people liars. People who were there and participated to one degree or another and survived to give their accounting.
You'll not get away with this on this board. Go to Stormfront if this is what you want to engage in. I find your antics here disgusting.
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