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Fla. doctor investigated in badly botched abortion

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Fla. doctor investigated in badly botched abortion

Fla. doctor investigated in badly botched abortion : 24 Hour Breaking News : The Buffalo News


Eighteen and pregnant, Sycloria Williams went to an abortion clinic outside Miami and paid $1,200 for Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique to terminate her 23-week pregnancy.

Three days later, she sat in a reclining chair, medicated to dilate her cervix and otherwise get her ready for the procedure.

Only Renelique didn't arrive in time. According to Williams and the Florida Department of Health, she went into labor and delivered a live baby girl.

What Williams and the Health Department say happened next has shocked people on both sides of the abortion debate: One of the clinic's owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant's umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.




Is there anyone who does not see this as murder?
 
Sickening - and I mean all of Florida....and our nation...since abortion is the law of the land...
A clinic with butchers and no license...
a poor(in places) state with no enforcement
a girl without morals, and probably intelligence as well
A murderess - yes
and evidently without parents
and the "man'.....
sickening..
That is what abortion is....
 
Sickening - and I mean all of Florida....and our nation...since abortion is the law of the land...
A clinic with butchers and no license...
a poor(in places) state with no enforcement
a girl without morals, and probably intelligence as well
A murderess - yes
and evidently without parents
and the "man'.....
sickening..
That is what abortion is....

Except that this wasn't an abortion. It was a murder.
 
This is precisely what Obama supported when he opposed that Illinois state Born Alive Act. This is what the pro-abortionists approve of. Remember, this baby really wasn't a baby, not a human being, just a collection of cells with dubious human characteristics.

Didn't anyone see the stories of babies surviving attempted abortions being set aside in custodial rooms, on counters, and in closets to die?

I hope no one is shocked by this...there's a massive group of people in this country that don't have a problem with this because, again, this wasn't a baby, not a human, just a collection of cells that just happened to fall out and that should otherwise be available for medical research...

What a sick, sick world, eh?
 
This is precisely what Obama supported when he opposed that Illinois state Born Alive Act. This is what the pro-abortionists approve of. Remember, this baby really wasn't a baby, not a human being, just a collection of cells with dubious human characteristics.

Didn't anyone see the stories of babies surviving attempted abortions being set aside in custodial rooms, on counters, and in closets to die?

I hope no one is shocked by this...there's a massive group of people in this country that don't have a problem with this because, again, this wasn't a baby, not a human, just a collection of cells that just happened to fall out and that should otherwise be available for medical research...

What a sick, sick world, eh?

I hear the abortion industry is just a cover to collect fetus skin for Cruella Deville's new handbag collection, too. :roll:
 
I hear the abortion industry is just a cover to collect fetus skin for Cruella Deville's new handbag collection, too. :roll:

Have ya? :roll:

I love the cover you provide to abortionists who see babies as merely a collection of cells until some arbitrarily determined moment in time that this collection of cells becomes a human and worthy of protection...
 
Have ya? :roll:

I love the cover you provide to abortionists who see babies as merely a collection of cells until some arbitrarily determined moment in time that this collection of cells becomes a human and worthy of protection...

And I love the way that you, in pursuit of the most histrionic and emotionally hysterical hyperbole you could come up with, completely glossed over the fact that I stated "this was a murder".

You may now resume your regularly scheduled mouthfoaming.
 
And I love the way that you, in pursuit of the most histrionic and emotionally hysterical hyperbole you could come up with, completely glossed over the fact that I stated "this was a murder".

You may now resume your regularly scheduled mouthfoaming.

I didn't gloss over it. I addressed your comments. And your comments do provide cover for abortionists no matter that you happen to think, in this instance, that this is murder.
 
I didn't gloss over it. I addressed your comments. And your comments do provide cover for abortionists no matter that you happen to think, in this instance, that this is murder.

If by "cover for abortionists" you mean give a reasonable look at a medical issue and set aside all the emotional caterwauling about :eek: THE CHILDREN!!!:eek:, then sure. Whatever semantic somersault it takes to get you through it.
 
Is there anyone who does not see this as murder?

It is murder but very few care at all. If a scared 16 year old has a baby in the restroom at school and drops it in the trash they call it murder. People are uncareing for the most part on just about anything but themselves. Abortion law will remain vertually unchanged through the term of BARRY / POTUS...Pro-Abotion (D)ILL.
 
If by "cover for abortionists" you mean give a reasonable look at a medical issue and set aside all the emotional caterwauling about :eek: THE CHILDREN!!!:eek:, then sure. Whatever semantic somersault it takes to get you through it.

I don't play and am not playing the "for the children" card here. In fact, like you, I despise that tactic and said so during the SCHIP debates last year.

However, dismissing my point about pro-abortionists and their perception of human life with your rhetorical nonsense does a good job covering up the fact that abortionists do, in fact, perceive unborn babies as merely a bag of cells.
 
I don't play and am not playing the "for the children" card here. In fact, like you, I despise that tactic and said so during the SCHIP debates last year.

However, dismissing my point about pro-abortionists and their perception of human life with your rhetorical nonsense does a good job covering up the fact that abortionists do, in fact, perceive unborn babies as merely a bag of cells.

See, I take exception first to the concept of "unborn babies" as it is nothing more than a tactic to throw semantic confusion into the discussion and force emotional attachment to a purely academic situation.

When discussing abortions, we are discussing the termination of fetuses, not babies. Labeling doctors who perform abortions "baby-killers" is a weak attempt to vilify the opponent rather than a legitimate attempt at discussion about the issue.

And the way you just tried to depict me as someone who covers for a murder mill was pretty offensive.
 
we are discussing the termination of fetuses, not babies.

I'm not sure I understand the distinction. Taxonomically, a "fetus" is the same thing as a "baby", i.e. they are both human. So, ultimately we are discussing the termination of humans.
 
I'm not sure I understand the distinction. Taxonomically, a "fetus" is the same thing as a "baby", i.e. they are both human. So, ultimately we are discussing the termination of humans.

We both know that throwing out the term fetus in exchange for an emotionally charged word like "baby" is nothing but a semantic game meant to cloud the issue and emotionally extort pro-choice proponents into capitulation for fear of being called "baby killers".
 
or unborn babies are called fetuses so pro-choicers can feel better about slaughtering children :)
 
We both know that throwing out the term fetus in exchange for an emotionally charged word like "baby" is nothing but a semantic game meant to cloud the issue and emotionally extort pro-choice proponents into capitulation for fear of being called "baby killers".

We also know that if you have to claim someone isn't human, or isn't a person, in order to justify a practice, that practice is evil. Else, you wouldn't have to do it.
 
or unborn babies are called fetuses so pro-choicers can feel better about slaughtering children :)

We also know that if you have to claim someone isn't human, or isn't a person, in order to justify a practice, that practice is evil. Else, you wouldn't have to do it.
beat ya
pays to be pithy :lol:
 
We also know that if you have to claim someone isn't human, or isn't a person, in order to justify a practice, that practice is evil. Else, you wouldn't have to do it.

No one claimed the fetus isn't human so try again.
 
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