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Obama Blames himself for mishandling Daschle

disneydude said:
Obama blames himself for mishandling Daschle - Yahoo! News

Wow....what a refreshing change of pace. We went from a President who wouldn't accept responsibility for anything and would never admit he made a mistake....to a President who actually admits he screwed up.

I'm glad to see that Obama admits he screwed up here.
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Talk about Rose-Colored Glasses. You're simply seeing what you want to see. Bush took plenty of responsibility for errors:
President Bush took responsibility Tuesday for breakdowns in the federal government’s response to Hurricane Katrina, saying the massive storm had “exposed serious problems in our response capability.”
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The problem both Presidents have is that they are simply posturing. With responsibility comes accountability - it's a completely empty gesture to step forward and take responsibility and then not to atone for the errors committed.
 
RiverDad said:
Talk about Rose-Colored Glasses. You're simply seeing what you want to see. Bush took plenty of responsibility for errors:

The problem both Presidents have is that they are simply posturing. With responsibility comes accountability - it's a completely empty gesture to step forward and take responsibility and then not to atone for the errors committed.
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How do you think Obama should atone for his error?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
How do you think Obama should atone for his error?
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Well he is the messiah and I have been praying for one of the great lakes to be turned into Bud Light and the Mississippi to be turned into a river of Tuaca
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
How do you think Obama should atone for his error?
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Now that's a good question. If the error is serious, which this was not, then honorable resignation is appropriate. If President Obama, or President Bush before him, cannot find a way to demonstrate atonement, then I, for one, don't really want to see them step forward and make useless gestures designed to make them appear humble and reasonable, when there is no cost associated with those gestures. Just spare me the theater.
 
I don't see how Obama is at fault here. It's Daschle's fault for not paying his taxes.
 
Does it take a politican to get nominated for a cabinet position to find out they been cheatin' on their taxes? They ought do an audit on every damn one of 'em.
 
Is anyone else not at all impressed by this?

Obama is apologizing for not thoroughly vetting Daschle and appointing someone with serious tax issues. That's fine and quite nice of him to do.

However, shouldn't he be apologizing for trying to appoint someone who made huge sums of money off of health care companies in the past 3 years to a position where they would be regulating the health care companies?

And it's not like Obama can claim ignorance there, because he knew all of that and still chose to nominate Daschle.

I guess if you break a lamp over someone's head and then apologize profusely for breaking the lamp, some people will forget that you broke it when you smashed it over someone's head.
 
Obama: 'i Screwed Up'

OK, so I don't agree with Obama on much, and believe that his agenda is not what is best for America, but I have to say that he earned my respect today. Not since Ronald Reagan, has a leader aggressively taken responsibility for screwing something up. Always excuses, blaming someone else, or passing the buck. I must say that this is refreshing. Not that this will change my mind on many of his programs, which I still feel are the wrong solution, but it is good to see a politician, even if it is a Democrat, show that he has a little of the Gipper in him. It might only be a small bit, but it's a start, and the buck DOES stop with the president.

Thank you Mr. President.

Article is here.
 
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RightinNYC said:
Is anyone else not at all impressed by this?

Obama is apologizing for not thoroughly vetting Daschle and appointing someone with serious tax issues. That's fine and quite nice of him to do.

However, shouldn't he be apologizing for trying to appoint someone who made huge sums of money off of health care companies in the past 3 years to a position where they would be regulating the health care companies?

And it's not like Obama can claim ignorance there, because he knew all of that and still chose to nominate Daschle.

I guess if you break a lamp over someone's head and then apologize profusely for breaking the lamp, some people will forget that you broke it when you smashed it over someone's head.
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That's exactly my thought. Obama is sorry that Daschle had tax evasion issues, not that he was completely wrong for the job.

Though, I do like that fact to see the President apologize for a mistake, even if it is the wrong mistake to be apologizing for. If this was Bush he would have been still raving about the guy.
 
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Seems a little like a theater act to build trust.
 
RiverDad said:
Talk about Rose-Colored Glasses. You're simply seeing what you want to see. Bush took plenty of responsibility for errors:

The problem both Presidents have is that they are simply posturing. With responsibility comes accountability - it's a completely empty gesture to step forward and take responsibility and then not to atone for the errors committed.
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Sure he did. Sure he did. :roll:
 
disneydude said:
Obama blames himself for mishandling Daschle - Yahoo! News

Wow....what a refreshing change of pace. We went from a President who wouldn't accept responsibility for anything and would never admit he made a mistake....to a President who actually admits he screwed up.

I'm glad to see that Obama admits he screwed up here.
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I'm a big Obama supporter, but I'm beaming at the fact that he admitting his folly.

Question for Reps/conservatives/McCain supporters:

Do you like the fact that Obama admitted he did something wrong? Not in the "haha you screwed up" sense, but in the "I appreciate you admitting it" sense?
 
Cilogy said:
I'm a big Obama supporter, but I'm beaming at the fact that he admitting his folly.

Question for Reps/conservatives/McCain supporters:

Do you like the fact that Obama admitted he did something wrong? Not in the "haha you screwed up" sense, but in the "I appreciate you admitting it" sense?
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Wow, that makes him so....so human, doesn't it? He's still a socialist.
 
RightinNYC said:
Is anyone else not at all impressed by this?

Obama is apologizing for not thoroughly vetting Daschle and appointing someone with serious tax issues. That's fine and quite nice of him to do.

However, shouldn't he be apologizing for trying to appoint someone who made huge sums of money off of health care companies in the past 3 years to a position where they would be regulating the health care companies?

And it's not like Obama can claim ignorance there, because he knew all of that and still chose to nominate Daschle.

I guess if you break a lamp over someone's head and then apologize profusely for breaking the lamp, some people will forget that you broke it when you smashed it over someone's head.
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is Disney REALLY applauding incompetence? You are right on.
 
RightinNYC said:
Is anyone else not at all impressed by this?

Obama is apologizing for not thoroughly vetting Daschle and appointing someone with serious tax issues. That's fine and quite nice of him to do.

However, shouldn't he be apologizing for trying to appoint someone who made huge sums of money off of health care companies in the past 3 years to a position where they would be regulating the health care companies?

And it's not like Obama can claim ignorance there, because he knew all of that and still chose to nominate Daschle.

I guess if you break a lamp over someone's head and then apologize profusely for breaking the lamp, some people will forget that you broke it when you smashed it over someone's head.
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When people who served for Republican Presidents find Daschle to be a competent appointtee, I give that a lot of weight.

ED ROGERS, White House staffer to Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush; group chairman of BGR Holding

I thought this nomination presented an opportunity to see if we could actually argue about policy. Tom Daschle is a steady hand whom any president could use, especially Barack Obama, given his inexperience. I thought this could have been an occasion for Republicans to say, "No more of the politics of personal destruction that has victimized so many Republicans." (Remember Linda Chavez?) Obama could have been true to his pledge to change Washington by sticking with Daschle and encouraging Republicans to move on and Democrats not to gloat.


TOMMY G. THOMPSON, Secretary of health and human services in the George W. Bush administration; partner at Akin Gump

With all that needs to be urgently accomplished on health care, I was sorry to see Tom Daschle withdraw his name from consideration as HHS secretary. Tom is a skilled consensus-builder, knowledgeable about the political process, liked by members of both parties and an expert on health-care issues. America is the land of second chances, and given Tom's long and distinguished tenure as a public servant, he should have been given a second chance. It would have required complete transparency -- something I believe he was prepared to offer.

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Yes, we know that any admission on Obama's part will never be good enough. :roll:
 
Well that's niiiiiice. Did he apologize for dropping the ball and hiring Timothy Geithner despite his tax issues? Did he admit dropping the ball with Nancy Killefer? Or was the ball not dropped when Bill Richardson had to drop out because of the investigation of his pay to play scheme?

Look, it's nice that a politician apoliogized for SOMETHING. But let's not swoon and get our panties all moist. Obama's had a crappy week nominating tax cheats and lobbyists he said he wasn't going to employ. IMO he's just trying to stop the bleeding, and as usual, he relies on his tongue.
 
I have no issue with Obama's apology and I'd rather him publically apologize, than not. But as StandupChuck just said, he owes us more than one apology as far as his appointments have gone. Its not Obama's fault that all these people seem to have issues regarding lobbying/taxes, but it is his fault he keeps appointing them. And remember, these people are withdrawing their names, not the other way around. If Daschale or Richardson don't withdraw their names, do they eventually make it into Obama's administration despite their issues?
 
WI Crippler said:
I have no issue with Obama's apology and I'd rather him publically apologize, than not. But as StandupChuck just said, he owes us more than one apology as far as his appointments have gone. Its not Obama's fault that all these people seem to have issues regarding lobbying/taxes, but it is his fault he keeps appointing them. And remember, these people are withdrawing their names, not the other way around. If Daschale or Richardson don't withdraw their names, do they eventually make it into Obama's administration despite their issues?
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One point, in Washington Presidents don't fire people publicly. They don't withdraw nominations publicly. They let people resign/withdraw on their own. It's a silly facade, but that's how things are done. I know, it's not changing how Washington works. But there is nothing to be gained in the long run by humiliating them I guess.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
One point, in Washington Presidents don't fire people publicly. They don't withdraw nominations publicly. They let people resign/withdraw on their own. It's a silly facade, but that's how things are done. I know, it's not changing how Washington works. But there is nothing to be gained in the long run by humiliating them I guess.
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I believe that sometimes they ask for a persons resignation or ask them to withdraw, and do this publically. Obama should just Hire the Donald for the vetting process.

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You're Fired!!!
 
Cilogy said:
I'm a big Obama supporter, but I'm beaming at the fact that he admitting his folly.

Question for Reps/conservatives/McCain supporters:

Do you like the fact that Obama admitted he did something wrong? Not in the "haha you screwed up" sense, but in the "I appreciate you admitting it" sense?
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You're giving him credit for apologizing for a mistake he didn't make. How was he to know this when he nominated Daschle?
 
How would YOU feel if you we interviewing a candidate for a position and all was cool per that candiate until the truth comes out? This is now getting to be a list of screw ups by Obammy from Richardson to Killefer, to Geithner, to William Lynn the former Raytheon exec. and major pentagon contractor.
These are not mistakes by Obammy, he is simply getting caught trying to slide these snakes in to his slimmy cabinet. If they are mistakes he is as dumb as the guy before him. God help us all. So this is the "CHANGE" we were promised? Looks and smells r-e-e-e-a-l familiar to me.
 
American said:
Wow, that makes him so....so human, doesn't it? He's still a socialist.
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That question was meant for Reps and conservatives, not extremists.

Sorry. :(
 
RightOfCenter said:
You're giving him credit for apologizing for a mistake he didn't make. How was he to know this when he nominated Daschle?
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Obama's screwup was not about knowing in advance the skeletons in the closets of his nominees, which is impossible. It was the poor vetting of his nominees. A good vetting is not only possible, but something that is expected from a president.
 
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