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Michael Steele becomes first black RNC chairman

StandUpChuck said:
I really wish we could do news w/out labeling people by the color of their skin. *sigh*

FOXNews.com - Michael Steele becomes first black RNC chairman - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

BTW, I couldn't find an online news source other than FOX that wasn't a blog. Guess it's not newsworthy for the unbiased media.
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Michael should make a great RNC chairman. I would have preferred Jindahl or Pawlenty, but he is a great choice as well.
 
Hatuey said:
Really? Explain how he was the best person for the job. :lol:
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I would be more interested in your arguments of why Michael is NOT the best person for the job? While you are at it, why not explain why Michael wasn't the best person for the job of Governor of Maryland too? After all, like most of your commentaries, it should be worth a few giggles at the least. :roll:
 
Steele announced before the elections that he wanted to be RNC Chairman. People just seemed to go with it.
 
StandUpChuck said:
Question for you Cilogy: I'm not meaning any offense, but I see that you say you're very liberal. Why do you want the GOP to rise again?
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None taken.

Good question. I myself am not partisan, but I feel that I always vote for the person whom I think is best candidate for the job. For example I live in Texas: I voted for Obama in November but I also for voted Republican John Cornyn as our senator.

I consider myself very liberal because I took a political aptitude last year and it said I was "very liberal." But I still have some conservative views.

I want fairness basically. Like a good football game, I want there to be relative equality and competition. I also don't want the GOP to lose its glow.

But honestly, let's say Obama goes 8 years in office. I can't think of any good (and young) Dems now that would be able to win in 2016. I see more of that on the Reps side, so I would want a better balance of power within the next 5 to 10 years.
 
Indy said:
A bunch of pissed off democrats in here is all I see. So when democrats elect black members they are applauded, when republicans do it it's only to gain sympathy from minorities? Are you ****ing kidding me?
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That pretty much hit's the proverbial nail on the head. I think we are done now. :2wave:
 
Erod said:
Condi Rice? Collin Powell? Alberto Gonzalez? Elain Chao? Alphonso Jackson? Carlos Guttierez?

But go ahead, Dems, keep up the lying. Republicans have a far better track record of putting minorities in key cabinet positions than Democrats.
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Republican voters don't though.

Just sayin'.....;)
 
danarhea said:
Actually, Steele is everything George Bush is not - A Conservative.
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Oh he's a lot more conservative than GWB. But he's pro-affirmative action, and some have concerns about his stand on the 2nd ammendment. I've never been able to figure out whether he's pro-life or pro-choice, but I s'pose a lot more info will be forthcoming.

(I wish I knew how to do mult quotes because there's another post I wanted to respond to). :(

Off topic: Is anyone else annoyed by the word Negro in all these ads on DP? I seriously can't be the only one. Of course, I can see where it's not as annoying as the GOP electing a man who happens to be black. [/sarcasm]
 
StandUpChuck said:
Oh he's a lot more conservative than GWB. But he's pro-affirmative action, and some have concerns about his stand on the 2nd ammendment. I've never been able to figure out whether he's pro-life or pro-choice, but I s'pose a lot more info will be forthcoming.

(I wish I knew how to do mult quotes because there's another post I wanted to respond to). :(

Off topic: Is anyone else annoyed by the word Negro in all these ads on DP? I seriously can't be the only one. Of course, I can see where it's not as annoying as the GOP electing a man who happens to be black. [/sarcasm]
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You can make the ads go away by donating to the forum. ;)
 
Indy said:
A bunch of pissed off democrats in here is all I see. So when democrats elect black members they are applauded, when republicans do it it's only to gain sympathy from minorities? Are you ****ing kidding me?
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Thank you, Indy!
 
StandUpChuck said:
I don't mind all the ads, but don't you think the "Negro" stuff is a bit offensive?
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I don't see the ads so I can't see the context. I would guess that they are trying to be provokative. The only time I see that word used now is to be offensive. So odds are, it is offensive.
 
Cilogy said:
None taken.

Good question. I myself am not partisan, but I feel that I always vote for the person whom I think is best candidate for the job. For example I live in Texas: I voted for Obama in November but I also for voted Republican John Cornyn as our senator.

I consider myself very liberal because I took a political aptitude last year and it said I was "very liberal." But I still have some conservative views.

I want fairness basically. Like a good football game, I want there to be relative equality and competition. I also don't want the GOP to lose its glow.

But honestly, let's say Obama goes 8 years in office. I can't think of any good (and young) Dems now that would be able to win in 2016. I see more of that on the Reps side, so I would want a better balance of power within the next 5 to 10 years.
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I was hoping you'd answer that way. It's nice to see someone so open minded. :2wave: (I'll admit, I'm not that open minded, but I appreciate it in others).
 
danarhea said:
If everyone remembers correctly, I am the member here who first predicted this last year, right after the election. :)
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I was just reading this in another thread. Cudos to you, Dan.

These are the thing I disagree with Michael Steele on:

"More funding for adult stem-cell research, but not embryonic." -The government should not be funding any of it.
"Support affirmative action and its improvements." -Racial quotas are unconstitutional.
"Led commitment to $70M in grants to minority-owned business." -No government handouts.
"Use anti-terrorism tools on criminals in our neighborhoods." -Not the purpose of antiterrorism laws.
"More enforcement against Drug Trafficking." -The War on Drugs is lost, stop wasting resources.
"Affirms marriage is between one man and one woman." -I agree on marriage, but the law must allow civil unions of some kind to all citizens.
"Mandatory sentencing guidelines for child sex offenders" -Every case is different, judges should be given some discretion.
"Reinstate college-level grant and loan programs" -No grants, I could live with loans, but prefer them to be from private institutions.


These are the things I agree with Michael Steele on:

"Roe v. Wade should remain in place."
"Supports Bush's veto of embryonic stem cell research."
"Moratorium on gas taxes until price stabilizes."
"Create and sustain real energy independence."
"Solar and renewables are the energy sources for the future."
"Personally opposed to the death penalty." (To a degree.)
"No ban on guns; focus on enforcement instead."
"Let businesses avoid burdensome and ineffective system."
"I don't need government dictating socialized medicine."
"Spend more on care and less on bureaucracy."
"Rumsfeld wouldn't be my secretary of defense."
"Flexibility for some ownership over retirement choices."
"Make tax relief permanent and repeal the death tax."
"We need a clear strategy, and to pressure Iraq gov't."
"Facilitated faith-based institutions to tap into resources."
"Government should have limited control over welfare & family."

So, for the most part, I am happy with this pick. I hope he brings the party back to its core principles.

Michael Steele on the Issues
 
Truth Detector said:
So you think it has NOTHING to do with qualifications and the fact that there are relatively FEW blacks who agree with the Republican platform and it's somehow a racism issue; how profound. :roll:
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Are you saying that all those appointees that erod named aren't qualified?

Of course your response is that they aren't interested. Why do you think that is?
 
Cilogy said:
None taken.

Good question. I myself am not partisan, but I feel that I always vote for the person whom I think is best candidate for the job. For example I live in Texas: I voted for Obama in November but I also for voted Republican John Cornyn as our senator.

I consider myself very liberal because I took a political aptitude last year and it said I was "very liberal." But I still have some conservative views.

I want fairness basically. Like a good football game, I want there to be relative equality and competition. I also don't want the GOP to lose its glow.

But honestly, let's say Obama goes 8 years in office. I can't think of any good (and young) Dems now that would be able to win in 2016. I see more of that on the Reps side, so I would want a better balance of power within the next 5 to 10 years.
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Oh, I don't know. I think Mark Warner or Brian Schweitzer would make good candidates. Or Sheldon Brown, perhaps. Besides, the new stars have 8 years to make themselves known.


StandUpChuck said:
I really wish we could do news w/out labeling people by the color of their skin. *sigh*
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So you would still have that exact same avatar if Obama was white? His race has nothing to do with it?
 
the makeout hobo said:
Oh, I don't know. I think Mark Warner or Brian Schweitzer would make good candidates. Or Sheldon Brown, perhaps. Besides, the new stars have 8 years to make themselves known.
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Oh ok, I guess I just have to do some research on them. Its just that there's been a lot of buzz about "young" Reps like Bobby Jindal and others.
 
Cilogy said:
Oh ok, I guess I just have to do some research on them. Its just that there's been a lot of buzz about "young" Reps like Bobby Jindal and others.
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I figure that's because we have our young star already- Barack Obama. We don't have to figure out who the next one will be for a while, so no one cares.
 
the makeout hobo said:
I figure that's because we have our young star already- Barack Obama. We don't have to figure out who the next one will be for a while, so no one cares.
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Yeah, lol, I was thinking about posting just that. Dems seem to be satisfied now.

One of the first headlines I saw after Nov. 4 was something like "how will the GOP pick up the pieces?" I guess its just normal for both parties to regroup and "find out what went wrong" after they lose an election.
 
Hatuey said:
Everybody needs their token minority I guess. Colin Powell wasn't black looking enough.
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Wow, just wow. I was talking with a co-worker about this. I said, "you know the Dems are going to try and pigeon hole the guy as a token black guy." I just never thought they would stoop so fast and so direct.

Considering how centrist the Republican party was shifting and the fact that it six different votes to come to a conclusion I was hoping there wouldn't be such blatant race baiting. At least some subltey. He was a safe pick (not too hardline) and yet still fairly conservative which is where the Republicans need to shift. He has been a possible VP pick more than once and a govenor.

I love how the Dems pigeon hole high ranking QUALIFIED minorities as Uncle Toms. I don't remember Obama having Oreo's being rolled at him during a speech for being a Republican. The hypocrisy abounds.
 
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