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The new US Treasury secretary

Like my pappy used to say, "they're all in bed together" and I have beileved that since I was chewin on tree bark.
 
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The sad and funny scenario is that the majority of news reporters still in love with Obama and don't want to touch his image because he is for them the promised messiah.

Too bad that integrity is the first quality missing in this new administration, from here, I won't expect much from Obama but a new George Bush but with more popularity.
 
conquer said:
The sad and funny scenario is that the majority of news reporters still in love with Obama and don't want to touch his image because he is for them the promised messiah.

Too bad that integrity is the first quality missing in this new administration, from here, I won't expect much from Obama but a new George Bush but with more popularity.
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Because integrity is determined by Presidents who only appointment cabinet members with no political experience?
 
Gibberish said:
You would rather Obama appoint cabinet members with no political experience? That's the only way you wouldn't be able to classify someone as not a "regular politician".
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Just for argument's sake, why does the Treasury Secretary need "political experience"?
 
The guy didn't pay some taxes on time and you fault him for it... conversely you don't hold such animosity for, oh, Joe the not so much a plumber who, also was delinquent on some taxes, as was McCain. :doh
 
Slippery Slope said:
The guy didn't pay some taxes on time and you fault him for it... conversely you don't hold such animosity for, oh, Joe the not so much a plumber who, also was delinquent on some taxes
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If Joe the Plumber wanted to be Treasury secretary, yea, it would matter.
as was McCain. :doh
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Link?


Again, I'm rather astonished at how willing people are to conclude that this wasn't a big deal. The dude did something wrong, 4 years in a row. The IRS audited two of those years and fined him. He apologized, and paid the fine, fixing the problem...for those two years. It was only once Obama won that he acknowledged the problem for the other two years and paid the back taxes...with no fines.

What a load.
 
RightinNYC said:
If Joe the Plumber wanted to be Treasury secretary, yea, it would matter.


Link?


Again, I'm rather astonished at how willing people are to conclude that this wasn't a big deal. The dude did something wrong, 4 years in a row. The IRS audited two of those years and fined him. He apologized, and paid the fine, fixing the problem...for those two years. It was only once Obama won that he acknowledged the problem for the other two years and paid the back taxes...with no fines.

What a load.
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I agree.

Experience in this field of course is needed, and no Joe the plumber can fit for such a position, but also for to be a Treasury secretary, the best candidate must be the "cleanest one", and Geithner deals about his back paid taxes carry lots of stains.

No doubt that Geithner is not the man to be trusted the treasury of US.

This is a very bad beginning of the Obama administration.:coffeepap
 
conquer said:
I agree.

Experience in this field of course is needed, and no Joe the plumber can fit for such a position, but also for to be a Treasury secretary, the best candidate must be the "cleanest one", and Geithner deals about his back paid taxes carry lots of stains.
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I'm hoping he brings a little bit of sense to the tax code for us freelancers 1099ers
 
Slippery Slope said:
The guy didn't pay some taxes on time and you fault him for it... conversely you don't hold such animosity for, oh, Joe the not so much a plumber who, also was delinquent on some taxes, as was McCain. :doh
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I missed the news...which cabinet position was Joe the plumber nominated for?
 
Moon said:
I missed the news...which cabinet position was Joe the plumber nominated for?
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Depart of Sanitation Secretary? Leech Feild Sec?:mrgreen:
 
Slippery Slope said:
The guy didn't pay some taxes on time and you fault him for it... conversely you don't hold such animosity for, oh, Joe the not so much a plumber who, also was delinquent on some taxes, as was McCain. :doh
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Joe the plumber is not in a government role either. And John McCain was elected by the people, not appointed by a congressional majority. But I understand why you failed to see that with your partisan blinders on and all.
 
I didn't say anything for or against the guy I'm just pointing out that tax "mistakes" are no big deal to repubs unless it's partisan for them to make it a big deal. Tax evasion is tax evasion whether you are EXXON or Joe the no so much a plumber or even the Treasury Sec.
 
Slippery Slope said:
I didn't say anything for or against the guy I'm just pointing out that tax "mistakes" are no big deal to repubs unless it's partisan for them to make it a big deal. Tax evasion is tax evasion whether you are EXXON or Joe the no so much a plumber or even the Treasury Sec.
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I just don't understand where you're getting your statements from? What makes you think that Republicans think tax "mistakes" are no big deal? I think they're a plenty big deal. If Joe the Plumber was TreasSec, I'd be pissed too.

And for christ's sake, can we have a discussion where someone doesn't resort to throwing out EXXON or HALLIBURTON as if that means something?
 
Slippery Slope said:
I didn't say anything for or against the guy I'm just pointing out that tax "mistakes" are no big deal to repubs unless it's partisan for them to make it a big deal. Tax evasion is tax evasion whether you are EXXON or Joe the no so much a plumber or even the Treasury Sec.
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I expect a wee bit more from someone nominated to be Secretary of the Treasury, than I do some random guy on the street. But maybe it's just me.
 
RightinNYC said:
And for christ's sake, can we have a discussion where someone doesn't resort to throwing out EXXON or HALLIBURTON as if that means something?
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No, we can't. They are the boogeymen the left like to constantly bring up. It's usually a sign that they have nothing of any relevance left to say.
 
RightinNYC said:
I just don't understand where you're getting your statements from? What makes you think that Republicans think tax "mistakes" are no big deal? I think they're a plenty big deal. If Joe the Plumber was TreasSec, I'd be pissed too.

And for christ's sake, can we have a discussion where someone doesn't resort to throwing out EXXON or HALLIBURTON as if that means something?
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IOW, tax evasion or "mistakes" only matter if you are going to work in the government? I don't recall any of you repubs making such a stink over McCain or Joe the not so much a plumber. And your last comment is nothing but hyperbole.
 
Moon said:
I expect a wee bit more from someone nominated to be Secretary of the Treasury, than I do some random guy on the street. But maybe it's just me.
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So like the other rightwing apologists, your view of tax evasion/mistakes vary according to who is doing it? I thought that the law is applied to everyone equally? Would you expect more from a Senator and presidential nominee?
 
Slippery Slope said:
IOW, tax evasion or "mistakes" only matter if you are going to work in the government? I don't recall any of you repubs making such a stink over McCain or Joe the not so much a plumber. And your last comment is nothing but hyperbole.
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Wtf are you talking about? Do you not get the simple concept that it's a bigger deal when the SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY willfully fails to pay taxes then when some douchebag plumber does the same thing? I can't believe I have to explain this.
 
Slippery Slope said:
The guy didn't pay some taxes on time and you fault him for it... conversely you don't hold such animosity for, oh, Joe the not so much a plumber who, also was delinquent on some taxes, as was McCain. :doh
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You have got to be kidding with this lame attempt at equivalence. Joe the plumber had a $1,200 tax lien that he didn't even know about and the courthouse official even attested to this point noting that Joe probably didn't know unless he checked his credit record because the notice of his tax debt was sent to his previous residence.

Geithner on the other hand was an official at the IMF. His employment arrangement was such that he was responsible for paying both the employee and employer portions of his SS and Medicare taxes. Every quarter the IMF REIMBURSED him for these taxes and he signed a form acknowledging his responsibility to pay them. He purposely ignored his obligation. Then when he was audited and it was discovered that he had evaded taxes in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004, the statute of limitation had elapsed for his 2001 and 2002 obligations, so he didn't pay them, but he paid his 2003 and 2004 obligations after being caught as a tax cheat. Further, he defrauded the government by claiming his kids summer camp expenses as daycare expenses. He was content to skate on the 2001 and 2002 obligations by taking advantage of the statute of limitations until he was nominated and only then did he come forward and pay what he owed.

Joe the plumber was the victim of inefficient bureaucracy that sent his tax notice to an old address and then simply filed a tax lien against him. Geithner purposely set out to cheat on his tax obligation, took advantage of statute of limitations and lied before Congress with his explanations.
 
Geithner is the classic example of someone who is failing upwards:
"Mr. Geithner has been involved in just about every flawed bailout action of the previous administration," said Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky. "He was the front-line regulator in New York when all the so-called financial innovations that have recently brought our markets to their knees became widespread."
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When most people fail at their job they're either fired or demoted, but when you get to the top ranks of your profession, especially if you're politically connected, this process is turned on its head and your rewards for failure is promotion and for spectacular failure you get promoted to be the Secretary of the Treasury. Further, you can count on liberal partisans coming to your defense and minimizing your failures by pointing to plumbers in Ohio who owe $1,200 in taxes that they weren't notified that they owed.
 
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