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Pope move ignites Holocaust row

You can keep posting the bogus article from the CODOH, but it's not going to change the fact that it's Holocaust-denier agenda driven propaganda and nothing more.

Do the right thing like the Catholic priest did: lean on science to probe your point and show "your evidence".

Until then, the gas chambers never existed.

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated
 
Ridiculous--move from Catholic bashing to anti-semitism. All some people can do is HATE.

Poisoning the Web - Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust



Holocaust Denial, Leuchter, and the "Leuchter Report"
Today's deniers:

In my opinion, the holocaust supporters -less in numbers each day- are deniers of science.

The hatred of them has no limits against the true validity of what science can bring us to reveal the veracity of the existence of gas chambers.

The Catholic priest referred in this argument is not using religion to understand that such gas chambers never existed but he is leaning on scientific evidence, and no one can ask for more.

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated

I, as a science lover, support the conclusions of Leuchter, and I cannot be considered as an antisemitic person by such, on the contrary, now more than ever I demand to the holocaust supporters to show their evidence which proves the existence of such gas chambers.

This is not about taking sides between races or people by their ethnic origin, this is about SCIENCE. They must show evidence not so just talking.

Who cares what people said in the past, who cares about witness who can lie easily in order to cry for help without being victims, what is now in play is SCIENCE, and the rules are in its favor.

Show the scientific evidence that gas was used in those chambers, so far Leuchter not only has demonstrated that no gas residual has been found but that the rooms themselves are not built appropriately to be used as gas chambers.

If you still believing in the former tales of such gas chambers, you are on your own, because today SCIENCE is gaining more credibility than the false statements made by someones in the past.:coffeepap
 
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Today's deniers:

In my opinion, the holocaust supporters -less in numbers each day- are deniers of science.

The hatred of them has no limits against the true validity of what science can bring us to reveal the veracity of the existence of gas chambers.

The Catholic priest referred in this argument is not using religion to understand that such gas chambers never existed but he is leaning on scientific evidence, and no one can ask for more.

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated

I, as a science lover, support the conclusions of Leuchter, and I cannot be considered as an antisemitic person by such, on the contrary, now more than ever I demand to the holocaust supporters to show their evidence which proves the existence of such gas chambers.

This is not about taking sides between races or people by their ethnic origin, this is about SCIENCE. They must show evidence not so just talking.

Who cares what people said in the past, who cares about witness who can lie easily in order to cry for help without being victims, what is now in play is SCIENCE, and the rules are in its favor.

Show the scientific evidence that gas was used in those chambers, so far Leuchter not only has demonstrated that no gas residual has been found but that the rooms themselves are not built appropriately to be used as gas chambers.

If you still believing in the former tales of such gas chambers, you are on your own, because today SCIENCE is gaining more credibility than the false statements made by someones in the past.:coffeepap

Do you have anything other than the bogus propaganda from the CODOH or are you just going to keep on posting it hoping that someone will believe it? You say that you rely on SCIENCE, but if you did you would realize that Leuchter's so-called evidence has already been proven incorrect and insufficient. If you truly loved SCIENCE you would post a reputable study rather than propaganda from a Holocaust-denier agenda driven organization.
 
Do you have anything other than the bogus propaganda from the CODOH or are you just going to keep on posting it hoping that someone will believe it? You say that you rely on SCIENCE, but if you did you would realize that Leuchter's so-called evidence has already been proven incorrect and insufficient. If you truly loved SCIENCE you would post a reputable study rather than propaganda from a Holocaust-denier agenda driven organization.

You still can't understand it.

It won't matter who posted or sponsored the link, what it matters is the link itself, this is to say, its content.

Because the Pope supports tomorrow the theory of evolution, does that means for you that you won't believe in this theory anymore because such religious authority is sponsoring it now?

You must be kidding.

The link I provide is the answer to the deniers of Leuchter's report.

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated

Here is a link for the report itself

http://tworca.org/LeuchterReport.pdf

So far, I noticed that he was very good following the procedures to analyze, evaluate and obtain conclusions.

You should do the same, I won't care if you post your link in a Muslim web site or in a communist page proving that the gas chambers indeed existed, and as long as you must do it following the required steps of the scientific method I don't see any problem to consider it.

So far, the science deniers don't want to do what is right, and they only attack whatever it contradicts their beliefs. Sorry, but this matter about the gas chambers is not a belief anymore, it is a fact that these chambers never existed...unless you present a fact (a more accurate fact) demonstrating the contrary.
 
You still can't understand it.

It won't matter who posted or sponsored the link, what it matters is the link itself, this is to say, its content.

Because the Pope supports tomorrow the theory of evolution, does that means for you that you won't believe in this theory anymore because such religious authority is sponsoring it now?

You must be kidding.

The link I provide is the answer to the deniers of Leuchter's report.

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated

Here is a link for the report itself

http://tworca.org/LeuchterReport.pdf

So far, I noticed that he was very good following the procedures to analyze, evaluate and obtain conclusions.

You should do the same, I won't care if you post your link in a Muslim web site or in a communist page proving that the gas chambers indeed existed, and as long as you must do it following the required steps of the scientific method I don't see any problem to consider it.

So far, the science deniers don't want to do what is right, and they only attack whatever it contradicts their beliefs. Sorry, but this matter about the gas chambers is not a belief anymore, it is a fact that these chambers never existed...unless you present a fact (a more accurate fact) demonstrating the contrary.

Until you can bring up a legitimate site that supports Leuchter's absurd report then we have nothing further to discuss. It's called bias. I'm not going to believe the claims of an agenda-driven Holocaust denier website. I'm sorry, but I'm not. You keep talking about science but it is propaganda and nothing more.
 
Until you can bring up a legitimate site that supports Leuchter's absurd report then we have nothing further to discuss. It's called bias. I'm not going to believe the claims of an agenda-driven Holocaust denier website. I'm sorry, but I'm not. You keep talking about science but it is propaganda and nothing more.

Why do I have to do that?

The evidence is clear regardless of whom is publishing it.

Besides, it is you the one who is calling them deniers, while they are people who are proving with facts that those rooms of the concentration camp weren't gas chambers.

On the other hand, from the web links supporting the assumed existence of the gas chambers, they only talk a lot about suffering but not a single scientific evidence is provided.

So, hell with their arguments, the true is better explained with facts, and you have no facts...Leuchter does

http://tworca.org/LeuchterReport.pdf

The Catholic priest is right in this and I watched an interview made to him, he appears to be be very impartial with his comments, this is to say, his opinions are based in what science says, not in what the deniers of the holocaust have claimed long before and without the use of science.
 
Why do I have to do that?

The evidence is clear regardless of whom is publishing it.
If the evidence were as clear as you claim, you would not be in the VAST minority in this debate.

Besides, it is you the one who is calling them deniers, while they are people who are proving with facts that those rooms of the concentration camp weren't gas chambers.
They have proven nothing. Their methods are poor and their arguments have been dismantled.
 
Poor Conquer... :cuckoo:

http://tworca.org/LeuchterReport.pdf

Poor holocaust supporters, they never imagined that their fallacy should be exposed with such a strong evidence. No one can argue against the facts provided by science because science is neutral about feelings or thoughts.

Now that this is about a Catholic priest, I wonder if religion writings supports the mass murdering of millions of Jews in the holocaust. With such a great number, at least one prophet should have mentioned such killings, because we are talking of millions of deaths....! sheeesss, what a propaganda.

But if nothing is showed about it in the bible, well, we can also conclude that from the religious point of view such event never happened as well. It appears that at last this Catholic priest have the support from these two sides....amazing...:coffeepap
 
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http://tworca.org/LeuchterReport.pdf

Poor holocaust supporters, they never imagined that their fallacy should be exposed with such a strong evidence. No one can argue against the facts provided by science because science is neutral about feelings or thoughts.

Now that this is about a Catholic priest, I wonder if religion writings supports the mass murdering of millions of Jews in the holocaust. With such a great number, at least one prophet should have mentioned such killings, because we are talking of millions of deaths....! sheeesss, what a propaganda.

But if nothing is showed about it in the bible, well, we can also conclude that from the religious point of view such event never happened as well. It appears that at last this Catholic priest have the support from these two sides....amazing...:coffeepap

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If the evidence were as clear as you claim, you would not be in the VAST minority in this debate.

Are you implying that "quantity rules"?

Are you nuts? The vast majority can believe that we invaded Iraq to fight terrorism, but facts reveal the contrary, so follow the facts.

They have proven nothing. Their methods are poor and their arguments have been dismantled.

No, on the contrary, the methods are very good, and you have not proven scientifically anything to validate your position. The Catholic priest still is more wiser than you by leaning on facts that the gas chambers didn't exist instead of a well organized propaganda claiming the contrary.

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated :coffeepap
 

Ha, ha, ha...please post more of those pictures, they are showing a smart but sick personality...

What a difference with the Catholic priest who didn't escape to the ridiculous to explain his point.

This is something to mediate about: what kind of people are the supporters of the holocaust...hmmmm :coffeepap
 
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No, on the contrary, the methods are very good, and you have not proven scientifically anything to validate your position. The Catholic priest still is more wiser than you by leaning on facts that the gas chambers didn't exist instead of a well organized propaganda claiming the contrary.

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated :coffeepap

Here, enjoy:
Leuchter's report states that the small amounts of cyanide he detected in the ruins of the crematoria are merely the result of fumigation. However the The Institute for Forensic Research points out that the controlled samples they took from living areas which may have been fumigated only once as part of the 1942 typhus epidemic tested negative for cyanide, and that the typhus epidemic occurred before the crematoria at Birkenau even existed.
Cracow (Post-Leuchter) Report: Final Remarks

Due to Leuchter's ignorance of the large disparity between the amounts of cyanide necessary to kill humans and lice, instead of disproving the homicidal use of gas chambers, the small amounts of cyanide which Leuchter detected actually tended to confirm it.
Evans, Richard J. Telling Lies about Hitler: The Holocaust, History and the David Irving Trial
 

Nahhhh

You better see it by yourself, learn how gas chambers are built first, and nothing of the necessary equipment has been found to support such holocaust. Read carefully the link about what is needed to built a gas chamber.

www.REVISIONISTS.com - Third Leuchter Report - EATON PROPOSAL

And about the specifics needed for the gas chambers of the holocaust, Leuchter who is an expert in this field concluded

www.REVISIONISTS.com - Third Leuchter Report - CONCLUSION

The reader of this report should be able to immediately grasp the necessity for the utilization of these tried and tested principles for a lethal gas chamber design. Most of them are common sense. Even though the execution requirements only existed in the United States, we can immediately see that the Germans utilized these criteria in the design and construction of the DEGESCH Delousing Chambers for Zyklon B. These were used only for pest and disease control.

9.001 If the readers of this report simply apply these basic common sense design requirements to the alleged German Homicidal Gas Chambers in Poland, or elsewhere, they can immediately see the absurdity of considering these facilities as being gas chambers. It has been said that the United States chambers cannot be compared with the alleged German chambers because the problems encountered in executing two people are different from those encountered in executing hundreds. Not so. The problems are essentially the same, only greater and more dangerous. The larger the chamber and the greater the number of executees, the greater is the need to apply the basic design principles. Only a fool would attempt to execute one or more persons in a cold damp morgue such as the alleged Gas Chamber at Auschwitz I. Perhaps a dead fool.


Oops! guys, Leuchter is calling you fools, sorry...


You have the full reports in this link, enjoy them.

www.REVISIONISTS.com -- The Leuchter Reports - Online!
 
Nahhhh

You better see it by yourself, learn how gas chambers are built first, and nothing of the necessary equipment has been found to support such holocaust. Read carefully the link about what is needed to built a gas chamber.

www.REVISIONISTS.com - Third Leuchter Report - EATON PROPOSAL

And about the specifics needed for the gas chambers of the holocaust, Leuchter who is an expert in this field concluded

www.REVISIONISTS.com - Third Leuchter Report - CONCLUSION

The reader of this report should be able to immediately grasp the necessity for the utilization of these tried and tested principles for a lethal gas chamber design. Most of them are common sense. Even though the execution requirements only existed in the United States, we can immediately see that the Germans utilized these criteria in the design and construction of the DEGESCH Delousing Chambers for Zyklon B. These were used only for pest and disease control.

9.001 If the readers of this report simply apply these basic common sense design requirements to the alleged German Homicidal Gas Chambers in Poland, or elsewhere, they can immediately see the absurdity of considering these facilities as being gas chambers. It has been said that the United States chambers cannot be compared with the alleged German chambers because the problems encountered in executing two people are different from those encountered in executing hundreds. Not so. The problems are essentially the same, only greater and more dangerous. The larger the chamber and the greater the number of executees, the greater is the need to apply the basic design principles. Only a fool would attempt to execute one or more persons in a cold damp morgue such as the alleged Gas Chamber at Auschwitz I. Perhaps a dead fool.


Oops! guys, Leuchter is calling you fools, sorry...


You have the full reports in this link, enjoy them.

www.REVISIONISTS.com -- The Leuchter Reports - Online!

So you completely ignored the post which shows why his report is laughable... Surprising. :roll:
 
In a welcome development, it appears that the Vatican will not fully readmit former Bishop Williamson unless he rescinds his Holocaust denial. Today's edition of The Jerusalem Post reported:

The Vatican has demanded that a bishop who denied the Holocaust must recant his position before being fully readmitted into the Roman Catholic Church.

The Vatican also said in a statement Wednesday that Pope Benedict XVI didn't know about Bishop Richard Williamson's views when he agreed to lift his excommunication and that of three other ultraconservative bishops last week.
 
In a welcome development, it appears that the Vatican will not fully readmit former Bishop Williamson unless he rescinds his Holocaust denial. Today's edition of The Jerusalem Post reported:

The Vatican has demanded that a bishop who denied the Holocaust must recant his position before being fully readmitted into the Roman Catholic Church.

The Vatican also said in a statement Wednesday that Pope Benedict XVI didn't know about Bishop Richard Williamson's views when he agreed to lift his excommunication and that of three other ultraconservative bishops last week.

If that is true, then millions and millions of people around the world should be fired from their jobs because they don't believe in the fallacy of the gas chambers either.

It is new for me that one of the Catholic doctrines today is "the holocaust":lol:

Where is the freedom of speech? :coffeepap
 
In a welcome development, it appears that the Vatican will not fully readmit former Bishop Williamson unless he rescinds his Holocaust denial. Today's edition of The Jerusalem Post reported:

The Vatican has demanded that a bishop who denied the Holocaust must recant his position before being fully readmitted into the Roman Catholic Church.

The Vatican also said in a statement Wednesday that Pope Benedict XVI didn't know about Bishop Richard Williamson's views when he agreed to lift his excommunication and that of three other ultraconservative bishops last week.
Pope Benedict is brilliant. This will give Williamson an opportunity to prove he is not schismatic and that he submits to the authority of the Holy Father (or not) while at the same time affirming the Church's stance on the Holocaust.
 
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In a welcome development, it appears that the Vatican will not fully readmit former Bishop Williamson unless he rescinds his Holocaust denial. Today's edition of The Jerusalem Post reported:

The Vatican has demanded that a bishop who denied the Holocaust must recant his position before being fully readmitted into the Roman Catholic Church.

The Vatican also said in a statement Wednesday that Pope Benedict XVI didn't know about Bishop Richard Williamson's views when he agreed to lift his excommunication and that of three other ultraconservative bishops last week.

My understand of this in accordance with canon law is that he can receive the Sacrament, but may NOT resume the duties of a bishop until he does as the Pope requests.
 
I thought Stephen Colbert had the best point about this.

How can this clown believe that a man rose from the dead 2,000 years ago but deny the atrocity from 60 years ago?
 
I thought Stephen Colbert had the best point about this.

How can this clown believe that a man rose from the dead 2,000 years ago but deny the atrocity from 60 years ago?

I think because for believing in the case of a man arising from the dead 2,000 years ago you need faith alone, but in order to believe that gas chambers existed in concentrations camps 60 years ago you need science, and the scientific evidence surely says "no".:coffeepap

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated
 
I think because for believing in the case of a man arising from the dead 2,000 years ago you need faith alone, but in order to believe that gas chambers existed in concentrations camps 60 years ago you need science, and the scientific evidence surely says "no".:coffeepap

Gas Chambers: The Leuchter Report Vindicated

Others have already debunked this clown.
 
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